Yes, it's more than sad, it's criminal. It's the sort of thing that turned me from an ex Scientologist into a critic.

Darius was declared and offloaded from Gold. His wife was made to divorce him and he was never to see his mom or dad again. Sandy was in great disagreement with this and protested. A few months later, Sandy got MS and was sent down to PAC. If she is still around, that is where she is, PAC. She is misreable that she has lost all relatives and loved ones and she herself now has a terminal illness. Greg is still in CMO INT and married to Sue Gentry. Darius was sent to some middle of nowhere U.S. town and given $500 to start a new life. He struggled out there for awhile and eventually petitioned to be able to be undeclared and get back into the S.O. Here is where the story gets brutal. Darius is allowed to come back into the S.O., but in LATAM/Mexico. Darius speaks no spanish and why they picked this location is most bizarre. Darius packs up his stuff and takes a bus to Mexico. Not too long after he arrives in Mexico, the car he is riding in is struck by a another car in a high speed street race and Darius is thrown from the vehicle and killed in the accident!!!!! But, as fate would have it, after 12 minutes in the afterlife, he is revived, lives and gets to spend the next year laying around recoving from a broken back, neck, ribs, limbs and various cuts an bruises. He is still in constant pain to this day and the best part is that he is selling off his belongings to raise money for his hospital bills as the Church is NOT paying for these!!!

Casavius is a completely different story. When his parents blew the base, DM was determined to keep Casavius from them. There is only one real way to make someone disappear well enough that even his parents cannot locate him. The Church is real good at this too. Years of experience have perfected the method. Hasn't anyone ever noticed how some people just never are heard from agian? They changed Casavius's name to David Prybilski and he was adopted by Dan Prybilski who worked at the Ranch. After his name was changed to David, and he had a new passport and identificaton, they sent him to Denmark and he works in the CLO there as a construction/maintenace guy. I bet you that is why his parents never found him. Even his wife's name was changed! He was married to a little red head name Irene that used to work in TU at Gold. Irene Smid was her name. I think they are divorced now anyway.

Dan Prybilski was made the Berthing buiilding I/C at Gold and later blew as well and is now in PAC somewhere.

The lengths people will go to make sure other people suffer.

Until next time...

BFG

This organization needs to END.

This is kidnapping. Why didn't the parents contact the police?
CoS abuses are not going to end until people who've blown go directly to a police station or child protective services and file complaints, describing the abuse they've experienced and/or witnessed.

Law enforcement will help - but complaints must first be filed. Those of us on the outside can write and talk and go on radio programs. But nothing will change until blown SO or blown staff file the complaints that will get investigations rolling.

Of course it isn't easy - by the time they get out, they're scared, confused, alone, often penniless, hounded & threatened by the cult. But someone (more than one someone) is going to have to go to the authorities and say: "This is what's happening inside the Church of Scientology. This is what I, personally, have witnessed." We critics can only encourage - we can't do it for them.

Boink!


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http://tinyurl.com/38qeto

This link is to some great recent years' video footage of buildings at Int. I just saw it again, and post it, since it is just really good footage, even though it's 6 years old now.

Around the time of this video, spring 2001, if there were other visits and demonstrations on the highway near the base, the Int RPF was in the middle of being dismantled, and the Int RPFers who were out at Happy Valley still berthing at Happy Valley (Happy Valley is the same as the Castille Canyon Ranch, it's 14 miles east of the base, it's where at the time of this video some farming and animals--pigs, chickens), but the Int RPFers (about 60 people) were being bused daily to the Castle (see it in the video), those RPFers some days just stayed out at the Happy Valley site when people who did this video were out on the highway filming the base property.

Too bad the people taking the videos didn't take their video shots from a location closer to San Jacinto, and they did so around 7:30am or so when the RPF bus came rolling down the road. They might have surprise video'd the RPF bus (driven at that time by John Eastment) driving into the Castle area of the base.

For people's info, DM's office is between those two round towers on the second floor at the front (left as you look at it from the road) of the building. The balcony in between is his balcony. When they zoom in to the window, that's where his desk is.

The building with the steeple is the Qual building, where staff course training goes on, that's also where a nice small library is, where I spent a good amount of time reading the Encyclopedia Britannica and there was a set of the "Great Books" in the Qual library, and I read those sometimes when I supposed to be studying Hubbard's materials. From 1993-95, ASI staff who live and work in Hollywood, used to come to the base for study time on Saturdays. Those familiar with study time, know that each student is given a "target" each study period for how much Hubbard he will absorb. In 93-95, I was the computer person at ASI and I came to that building weekly with other ASI staff for staff study. When I met my study targets, I would go to the Qual library, which physically is directly below that steeple in the video, and I'd browse reference books (non-Hubbard articles) for pleasure. I loved the Britannica and the "Great Books" that go with the Britannica. Reading better writers and smarter people than Hubbard definitely disaffected my view of Hubbard. So just under that steeple are the seeds to disaffect the members at the top ranks of the movement.

Next time someone does a video, they ought to do a video of the "G's" (the apartments the celebs used to stay at when they came to the bae to help be in movies or just to be guests of DM), and also take some video clips of the "Kirby" apartments, and any of the other outside berthing that RTC staffers live in off-base.

The latest I heard was that they might be moving everyone on base now.

One other thought about WHY the base downsized so massively over the last couple 5 years or so, is that they didn't have enough on-base berthing units, and thus before moving everyone on base, they also needed to downsize to fit into the berthing spaces they have now on base again. (It used to be that years ago, almost everyone used to live on base, and then they needed office space, so they started moving people off base to the berthing apartments (Kirby and Devonshire.) Bad years ago the elite top people had berthing on the base, and one of the pecking order status symbols was the 'exception' staff who still lived on base. Carmen and Gary Weise had their own tiny little cottage. Jon Horwich had the "Horwich house" and security guards had their dorm, and the computer people stayed in the dorm on base, but everyone else lived off base.

There are so many funny little pecking order status things that go on and have gone on, which to me made me think that in some ways the same sorts of pecking order status ranking phenomenon will happen all of their own, and such human behavior is not preventable no matter what the "cult's" rules are.

I mean today, guaranteed regular staff don't go trotting up to the RTC building unless called there, and they don't go trotting up to LRH's home, etc., etc.

There are all sorts of do's and don't's.

This aeriel shot with labels, is old, but gives more info on what is where at the Gilman Hot Springs facility.

http://www.lermanet.com/image/hemet-labeled.jpg

One of the first things I was told when I became a Scientologist and was receiving the PTS indoctrination step was that it is a lie commonly told that Scientology splits up families.

According to personal experience it isn't. When push comes to shove the other half of a family who doesn't want to have anything to do with the org or Scn gets to enjoy the risk or fact of losing some of their family.

Some relevant stipulations of the Univ. Decl. of Human Rights:

Article 12.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

Article 16.

(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

Article 20.

(2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

I am really sorry to hear about Darius. That is just tragic. I think that unquestionably there is serious weight on a person's mind, like Darius's, he respected and looked up to his dad.

BFG do you know if Darius is still trying to get into good standing, or has he gotten back into good standing somehow, or do his injuries prevent him from getting back into the Sea Org?

Family connection prevails in people's lives OVER top of Hubbard's ideas and rules.

Darius "wog" family is from the Philly area. On the Int RPF, when I worked under Darius, he was the section in charge of welding and steel work, Darius told me his grandfather was the Irish boxer that John Wayne played in one of John Wayne's movies. Greg has family around Philly.

DM's got family around Philly also.

To me Darius' story shows how so important it is for Scientologists to get reading and re-educating themselves OUT of the Hubbard world of ideas.

Darius should know about all the other high ranking ex Int staffers who have gotten on successfully in life, and have left Scientology totally in the past. The exodus of ex high ranking members in the last 5 or so years, I've heard from some of these people now, and all are doing well, and they have put Scientology completely behind them. They network, they are happy to be in contact with one another.

I think it is good for people INSIDE the ranks of Scientology to know that the ex top ranking members who got declared, blew, or routed out, and have NOTHING to do with Scienotlogy, are doing well, and they are enjoying each other's company after they've completely moved on in life away from Scientology.

There are plenty of people who were close friends with Darius' father and mother who would gladly help Darius out, should he wish to connect to them.

I agree, Chuck. It's very important for people on the inside to know that lots of folks leave and create a terrific life outside Scn.

I'm glad to hear that ex top-ranking members with whom you're in contact are doing well. Very good news indeed!

My hope is that we will soon see high-level ex Scientologists going to police departments, to child protective services and reporting what they've seen and experienced inside CoS -- the sorts of abuses that are described earlier up in this thread -- giving names and dates and specific abuses witnessed. It is illegal for David Miscavige to beat people up! It is illegal for Scn to house RPFers like sardines, stacked in bunk beds to the ceiling, reminiscent of concentration camps. It is illegal for an organization to separate minor children from their parents, adopt them out to others, etc., etc. But nothing will be done about it unless those who have experienced or witnessed these abuses file complaints. Law enforcement stands ready to help -- however, complaints must be filed before police or DCF can act, and they must be filed by people who have been on the inside recently and who have personally witnessed or suffered the abuses. Who will step up and do this?

Kind of interesting, isn't it?

You have people who have genuinely suffered terrible abuse at Int; worse than any that ever existed before in the history of the organization.

They leave, and a few years later they have put it all behind them, rejoined society, and are doing well.

Then you have others who left years and years and years and YEARS ago, still blaming Scientology for all their problems.

Gotta wonder what the fundamental difference is between the individuals in these two groups.

I think it's interesting, when you look at the those buildings, there's got to be at least 300,000 sq ft of building space. AT LEAST! PROBABLY MORE LIKE 600,000!!!

In one of blownforgood's earlier emails he stated that there are only 300 people left up at Int. With that much space, there should be about 5,000 to 10,000 people working up at Int.

I think that if $cientologists actually knew what the hell was going on "uplines"--ass beatings and forced slave labor--they would be storming the gates.

There's definitely a conspiracy of considerable magnitude going on here. You have an evil tyrant who's ran everyone off, and he's ordered the rank and file, who are oblivious, to buy up "Ideal Orgs" in the face of a PR disaster.

It just amazes me!!!! How can this go on???

mb

PS. That video is great because there are quite a few stories out there that talk about the "eagle's nest" and "electric fences." Until you see it with your own eyes, it's not very believable.

You would think so.

I don't know if that's true.

A lot of Scientologists have friends and family uplines.

There are also a number of current org public who used to be uplines staff.

It's amazing how people who know how bad it is can justify it. Or ignore it.

But they do.

lulu_belle,

I would imagine with that much space in all those buildings with so few people it would seem like a ghost town around there.

mb

From what I hear, the orgs are the same way.

lulu_belle,



I knew quite a bit before I finally jumped ship. I held on to a belief that there "might" be something worth all the aggravation I've been through until I finally just said "screw it." Once that happened, the flood gates opened. I decided to become an "SP" by posting here, and I was able firm up my resolution to never go back there again. It's been over a year now.

I have my life back. My story posted in the "my story" section has caused more damage than any contributions I ever made as a public or staff person--at least, this is what I believe. We'll know for sure within the next year or so, if $cientology does take the final nose dive.

This "Hot INT BASE News!" thread is probably the most powerful thread on Clambake. The more people become aware of how evil David Miscavige is, the more people become closer to saying "screw it."

mb