This question came to mind in the thread on security guards but I think it's different enough from that for its own thread.

When I was on staff there was competition among the departments and divisions for the newly recruited staff members. It seemed that the tacit rule was that if a department or division could recruit someone to staff they could have them for their department or division.

For the staff members recruited by the recruiter in division one, how do they decide who goes where? I was told that the upstat high producing parts of the org got rewarded with staff members and that's supposed to be the policy, but I've seen that ignored. Also I've seen people recruited with the promise of technical training posted into administrative positions soon after signing their contract.

Is there a little "committee" that decides? Are there directives from external management? Are some postings punitive?

Wieber, this was a sore issue for me and it helped drive me away from scientology. I don't think that was a tacit rule either, I'm pretty sure it was policy. There's no committee. OEC Vol 1 is full of policies about how the org board is supposed to be posted. Yes postings can be very punitive. Especially in the Sea Org. For example Ben Shaw, after one of his recent busts, was made into a jardinero at Flag Land Base, fertilizing the landscape and keeping it neat. If you are removed from your post and they don't like you for some reason, they make you the janitor.

Yeah if you recruit staff you are supposed to be able to keep them. They use that to get all staff recruiting for their sections in order to make work easier (lessen the workload). If you had more work than you could handle the answer was always to recruit for your area. Not once did HCO ever send me a new staff member in spite of the fact that I was often "upstat". Like all things in scientology it's a two-faced proposition. And there is not supposed to be any "musical chairs" (moving staff around) either. But what I actually saw happen was this:

_ The people who ultimately decide where staff are posted are the execs, not even HCO.
_ The Sea Org sends missions to Orgs and the purpose of these missions is to rip off their staff.
_ The Sea Org uses musical chairs constantly to achieve their goals.
_ Continuous "all hands" is another covert way of using the entire staff as a personnel pool by any exec or missionaire, depending on their orders from above.

I have lots of details about this kind of thing but that's the basic reality.

There's lots of policies about how HCO is supposed to post the expeditors that they themselves recruit. But what ends up actually happening is the highest up on the chain of command who has the most power who also screams the loudest usually gets what he wants.

Any and all promises are made to get recruits to sign on. You wouldn't believe some of the promises I've seen made.

Not being able to quit your job makes it a form of slavery.

I fully agree. This is true in the lower orgs among non sea org staff members, too, as long as someone thinks there is some truth to 'the bridge' and the promises associated with it. As soon as a person realizes that the metaphorical carrot is not a real carrot they can walk away free of the whole mess. The trick is to get to that realization.

Now that I'm out it shouldn't bother me but I still have residual frustration, if that makes sense. If anyone else has some feelings on this subject I hope they use this thread to rant. Stories, information, ranting, etc. is all good as far as I'm concerned.

The staff contract is filled with illegalities, so it's not valid, in case anyone feels bound by it. Just leave. CoS would be idiotic to let the staff contract be challenged in open court.

This is true. However, when a person is totally convinced of the workability of "the tech" and has complete faith that what is promised with relation to the OT levels then the legality of documents signed becomes moot. I'm sure Hubbard counted on that very thing. That other guy probably counts on it as well.

If you are reading this and you are involved in $cientology and you are on staff and want to leave, here's the deal. There is nothing for you to actually gain from doing actions on the so called bridge. You can leave. The contracts you signed are not legally binding. They cannot put your freeloader debt into a collection agency or take legal action on it because a freeloader debt is an aspect of human trafficking and that's a crime. Nothing bad will happen to you because of any kind of karmic effect of you leaving. Walk away. Take your life back and enjoy it.

As to posting staff members and the topic of the thread, please keep this thread going for a while.

There's another aspect to posting in $cientology orgs.

You read much of Hubbard's stuff in the way of policy, which $cientologists do, and he tells you in so many words that the greatest gift $cientology can bestow on someone is to recruit them as a staff member and assign them to a post. This also comes through in conversations with the most indoctrinated staff members.

I never really bought that one. I mean, you know, thanks for posting me as a body router. Yeah.

For anyone here who was a staff member in $cientology did you get that impression, too? Comments and contradictions are most welcome here.

I was recruited by the Chicago Org to be their Flag Rep.
I was traded to CLO EUS to be a Security Guard via a program target for the renos mission in 1988 headed by Laurie Englehardt and Dave Revel. Robert Bein, the new Chicago Org ED, who took over for Sarah Wells traded me.

I was a pawn from the getgo!

Oh, sure. "There's no hidden data line." If you believe that do you want to buy a bridge?