Abortion in the Sea Org -- "Self-Determination?"

Ladybird · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:22 pm **Posts:** 5630

Right to Life organization upset over Scientology coerced abortions

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scie ... ons-63357/

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The Church of Scientology, popularly known as the church to which Hollywood superstar Tom Cruise belongs, is facing increased scrutiny in Australia and elsewhere over allegations that the organization has abused members and even coerced women psychologically into having abortions.

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The Australian Broadcasting Company reported on its "Four Corners" program that an ex-member of the Sea Orgs revealed she and other women had been pressured into having abortions in order to remain in the elite organization.

The unidentified Sea Org member said of her abortion: "I will always have that emotional scar and wounds. It's a horrifying form of abuse that goes on very prevalently."

The complaint about coerced abortion is not new; but ever since Xenophon entered the fray, the issue has been getting much more attention and developed its own momentum. The Sea Org requires members not to have children, demanding they devote all their energies to whatever goals Scientology leaders have in mind for the church.

Ladybird · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:22 pm **Posts:** 5630

Here is a list of many cases of forced/ coerced abortions in the Sea Org:

Evidence of coerced abortions

http://wiki.whyweprotest.net/Evidence_o ... _abortions

Simonymous · **Joined:** Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:48 am **Posts:** 1156

Bumpity-bump.

Bumps are allowed here. A place where bumps, namely BABY-bumps, are not allowed, is the Sea Organisation in Scientology.

I ask anyone new here, members of media, people on the fence about Scientology or even regulars here as a refresher, to please read this topic, all 10 pages of it. The information contained is shocking and horrifying, and everyone should be aware of every word.

Coerced or forced abortion in Scientology is real, and it has been happening pretty much since L. Ron Hubbard opened the Sea Org.

The damage to the women is horrendous. "Give up your baby or give up your eternity and all your friends and family." Can you imagine being told by a priest by orders of the Pope, "abort or you'll go to Hell!"? Just so they can get more work out of you!

deb_thang · **Posted:** Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:09 am

If any of you have resources to add to this new thread for Sea Org women facing this choice, please do:

http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=32615

Ladybird · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:22 pm **Posts:** 5630

Here is new information posted today from a newly out Sea Org member. In addition to more shocking information about forced abortions in the Sea Org, this person also confirms forced sterilizations that I and others have written about here on this thread as well as many other threads over the years.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=20712

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Yes, I was exactly on that day when Alfonso Seijo Junior (Chief Off CMO Latam) said to at least 7 Sea Org Members from CLO Latam, he was on a park behind CLO Latam when he ordered to all SOM male who have a 2nd Dynamic to get the operation to avoid non wanted childs at the base. This was inmediatly after some SOM from Latam got pregnant, one from CMO Latam and one auditor from CLO Latam.

I believe is gross the fact that actually a baby is being seen as a threat to a grp, how deviate from humanity can someone be after saying that?.

I know because I was there that day.

Ladybird · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:22 pm **Posts:** 5630

More confirmation about forced/coerced abortions in scientology by the former head of INT Security:

Knowledge Report: Gary Morehead on Forced Abortions

http://youtu.be/ulNwZjPamTI

Demented LRH · **Posted:** Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:28 pm

I am not familiar with the laws dealing with forced abortions and sterilizations. I do not know if forcing a woman to have an abortion is punishable by law.

Don Carlo · **Joined:** Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:20 am **Posts:** 8097

Vasectomies ? That's what Rafael Gómez, nickname rafagomezd, seems to be saying at http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.p ... -Everybody
Does anyone else claim there are forced vasectomies?

Demented LRH · **Posted:** Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:40 pm

Don Carlo, I am not an MD, but I thought that vasectomies are for the men only. I cannot even describe what would happen to a person who orders me to have a vasectomy

Don Carlo · **Joined:** Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:20 am **Posts:** 8097

Rafael Gómez said,

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he ordered to all SOM male who have a 2nd Dynamic to get the operation to avoid non wanted childs at the base.

That sounds like vasectomies.

Demented LRH · **Posted:** Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:53 pm

The person who gave that order must be incredibly lucky -- he never ordered me to have a vasectomy. The ones who followed that order are like the sheep in a slaughterhouse.

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