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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:55 am 
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Here is an excerpt from Dr. Stephen Kent:

Scientology -- Is This a Religion?
Stephen A. Kent <skent@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Department of Sociology
University of Alberta
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"Because the attitude among some Sea Org leadership appears to be that children hinder adults from performing their vital assignments, researchers should not be surprised to learn of pressures that Sea Org women felt to either abort pregnancies or give-up children for adoption. My 1987 informant told me that when Sea Org operated on ships during the mid 1970s, women knew that they were not allowed to raise children on the vessels. Consequently, they experienced pressure to have abortions. She told me that, "on the ship, I know of a lot of people that [sic: who] had abortions, because they didn't want to leave the ship. It wasn't like anybody said 'You have got to get an abortion.' It was more an implied thing. If you don't you're going to leave" (Kent interview with Fern, 1989: 41-42). Years later I saw the same pressures described in a 1994 legal declaration by Mary Tabayoyon, who became a Scientologist in 1967, joined Sea Org in 1971, and stayed in it until her departure in 1992. She stated that in 1986, while on the Scientology base in Hemet, California, "members of the Sea Org were forbidden to have any more children if they were to stay on post, and the Hubbard technology was applied to coercively persuade us to have abortions so that we could remain on post" (M. Tabayoyon, 1994: 2). The pressure came partly through what Scientology called "ethics handling," which involved the organization pressing people to conform to Hubbard's policies and the organization's directives. Tabayoyon herself "gave up my child due to my greatly misguided obligation and dedication to the Sea Org" (M. Tabayoyon, 1994: 4). She relinquished her child after being "indoctrinated to believe that I should never put my own personal desires ahead of the accomplishment of the purpose of the Sea Org" (M. Tabayoyon, 1994: 5).

Taken together, the interviews, legal declarations, media accounts, and internal documents present troubling glimpses into the lives of Scientology's most committed members. Sea Org obligations override many personal and family obligations and responsibilities, and devotion to the Scientology cause often appears to take priority over the needs of children. Equally disturbing, however, are accounts that some older children and teenagers have had to endure, along with Sea Org adults, the abuses of Scientology's forced labour and reindoctrination programs. Although several labour and intensive instruction programs have operated within the Scientology organization over the years, among the most intense ones is the Rehabilitation Project Force -- usually just called the RPF."


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We saw in the Catholic Church the wave of perversion that occurred because the Church does not allow male priests to marry. The priesthood became filled with criminal pedophiles. The lawsuits ran well over a billion dollars and the scandals left countless of ruined lives strewn in its wake.

Anytime a group perverts Nature and disallows that which is natural -- such as women having children -- then perversion will occur. Scientology is destructive of life. It is perverted and sadistic to force SO women to have abortions. These forced abortions are an Opus Con Naturum, or an act contrary to Nature.

Scientology is itself a forced abortion of the human soul. Look at someone like Tom Cruise. He is unnatural in his interviews, especially when he describes Scientology. He is soulless, for there has been an abortion of his beingness via Scientology processing. Tom is a hypnotized being projecting what he thinks is command intention when in fact he is communicating his utter lostness.

Scientologists are lost because they are in an unnatural relationship relative to human life itself. The native state of humans is to be free. It is not to be a controlled, poisonous, lying robot who is at the effect of Scientology Ethics.

In a sense, all Scientologists have endured the forced abortion of self. That which Scientology seeks to abort in its members is their innate humanness. Only when Scientology has abortded and destroyed a person's innate humanity can it then turn a person into the sort of poisonous robotic liars we have seen descend upon the victims of Katrina.

Tom Cruise is the penultimate poisonous robotic liar of Scientology writ large upon the world's stage. Tom is also a pampered Miscavige lapdog who is kept ignorant of the life-destroying Scientology culture of Dungeons and Interrogations. TC's Sec Checks no doubt come with a cherry and whipped cream on top of them. Has TC ever had to scrub toliets at Flag while wearing a dirty rag around his arm?

Of course not.

Scientology is perverse. Fortunately, if people like DM and Tom Cruise are the best Scientology can produce then we have a bright future. People like this tend to fall apart all by themselves eventually. How long before TC is locked up in the CC on an Introspection Rundown? Does it happen when he finally admits the truth to himself?

Tom Cruise now has two divorces and a string of failed romantic relationships. He has never biologically fathered a child although he is supposedly perfectly capable of reproduction. What do these very basic failures in TC's life say about the actual usefulness of Scientology?

I thought an OTVII like Tom had total control over MEST and yet his life appears to be no more than a well-financed farce. His love affair with Katie is off the radar and is allegedly on the rocks. Maybe Tom doesn't need better PR or more auditing? Maybe he just needs to get the hell out of Scientology for good.

Forced abortions are yet another perversion in an endless string of Scientology perversions. Forced abortions just mask the symptoms of evil that Scientology is trying to hide. Even LRH said that people who cannot love children are SP's. To force children to be aborted is a crime in so many ways. It is hard to get your mind around how destructive of life Scientology is in its present form.


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Just wondering if DM is married? And does he have children?
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Yes he is married, he sends his wife on $250K shopping trips to Europe. No children that I know of.

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As far as I know, David and Shelly (Michelle) Miscavige have no children. Shelly Miscaviges post when I was in was "COB (Chairman of the Board) Assistant".

She basically followed the asthmatic dwarf around, taking notes and handing him kleenex.

Here is a post about Shellys mother:

FROM ARS:

Michelle or "Shelly"
: Miscavige had a mother once.


: Her name was Mary Florence Barnett, but her friends called her "Flo."


: Flo Barnett killed herself in 1985, according to the coroner's report.


: She shot herself three times in the chest with a rifle and once in the
: head.


: And she also had a very notorious son-in-law, David Miscavige.


: She had received some auditing from Julie Mayo, wife of David Mayo, the
: "squirrel" who supposedly claimed to have authored solo NOTs and left
: Scientology to form his own competitive group.


: Flo also had been audited by Scientology auditors, including the late
: ex-wife of Heber Jentzsch, President of the Church of Scientology
: International (and fugitive from Spain).


: None of the auditing worked on her. She was suffering from an anyeurism of
: the brain, and auditing does not work, nor does it cure anything. Auditing
: makes you paranoid and delusional, and enables the sick to become sicker.


: Seeing she could never get any better, she killed herself.


: Did David Miscavige or his wife Michelle show any emotion when she died?


: Of course not. She was an embarrassment to the church, much the same as L.
: Ron Hubbard's homosexual son Quentin was when he killed himself nine years
: earlier.


So Steve, is it your determination now that there was no foul play in
these deaths? I'm curious how one shoots oneself in the chest three times
with a bolt-action rifle (as has been reported), then without
going in to shock, do a final shot to the head? Any ideas? The LA
Sheriff's Homicide Detective who advanced this theory in the squad room
was laughed down by his fellow detectives--but that's how the LA County
Coronor had it when Homicide arrived: an open-and-shut easy day ... then
to the bars in Chinatown. [See Long Beach Press Telegram, for the
story happening in Dominguez Hills, CA; 1984].


Your recollection of the Quentin Hubbard death is not the way Ed Walters
told it to the FAIR class action law suit people either.


Tom Klemesrud SP6
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Here is a police report about David Miscaviges father:


Riverside county Sheriff
San Jacinto Station
FILE #104349024


DETAILS:
On Tuesday, December 14, 2004, at about 1115 hours, I was on routine
patrol in a marked San Jacinto Police patrol unit. 1 was stopped
northbound on State Street at a solid red light at the intersection of
T" Street. At that 1 observed the light change to green for


the east/west bound traffic on T" Street. As the vehicles began to
drive forward 1 saw a White Ford Station wagon driving eastbound on
7th approach the intersection in the left turn lane et a high rate of
speed. The station wagon continued into the intersection and
turned left cutting off the westbound traffic causing them to slam on
their brakes (A violation of 21801 (a) CVC ).


As the station wagon began its turn, the wheels were loosing traction
causing them to screech. I estimate its speed at about 30MPH. The
station wagon finished its turn and proceed northbound on State St. I
continued to observe the vehicle as I was still in traffic at the red
light.


I observed the station wagon approach traffic hit its brakes end
swerve around the other vehicles without signaling, entering the next
northbound lane or just drive in the middle of both lanes. I observed
the vehicle pass upon a highway that way four times (A
violation of 22107 CVC ), also causing other vehicles to hit their
brakes.


As my red light turned green I began to catch up the station wagon in
an attempt to stop it. As I approached the vehicle I again saw it cut
off mother vehicle again causing it to slam on their brakes.


I caught up [o the vehicle on State St just south of Ramona Expressway
in the #2 lane. I activated my overhead emergency lights and siren.
The station wagon again swerved out of the #2 lane around another
vehicle and swerved back into the #2 lane putting mother vehicle
between us, and accelerated.


I again caught up to the vehicle north of Ramona Expressway and it
finally yielded and stopped on State St at the intersection of
Sagecrest. I contacted the driver of the vehicle, Ronald Miscavige,
who identified himself with his California driver license
and an expired insurance card (Exp. 04/04)


I asked Ronald what he was doing driving so recklessly. Ronald said he
was late for work. Ronald said, "I know I ran a red light". Ronald
continued by saying he was wrong and deserved a ticket but he was very
late for work. Ronald asked me to beat him instead of giving him a
ticket.


I informed Ronald he was under arrest for 23103 CVC, Reckless driving
and had him step out of the vehicle. I detained Ronald in the mar of
my patrol unit and had his vehicle towed pet 22651 (H) CVC by Pirots
Towing. The vehicle was later entered into NCIC as stored.


I transported Ronald to the San Jacinto Station to be finger printed
and cite released. While driving to the station Ronald again said, he
was wrong and I was doing my job correctly. Ronald wanted me to
understand that he is not a criminal and usually doesn't break the
law.


Ronald was issued a citation for 23103(a) CVC, Reckless Driving (Any
person who drives any vehicle upon a highway in willful disregard for
the safety of person or pr property is guilty of reckless driving) and
16028(a) CVC, No proof of current insurance.


I am forwarding this case to the District Attorney's office for a
review and filing. This case is closed by arrest.


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Affidavit of Mary Tabayoyon (in Italiano or en Français)

Beginning in 1986, members of the Sea Org were forbidden to have any more children if they were to stay on post and the Hubbard technology was applied to coercively persuade us to have abortions so that we could remain on post.



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Scientology directive ED NW 26 PAC - 29.06.1979

FROM NOW UNTIL THERE ARE ADEQUATE FACILITIES AND PERSONNEL FOR THE CCO [Child Care Org] AND THAT ORG IS SET UP TO HANDLE BOTH EXISTING SEA ORG CHILDREN AND FUTURE EXPANSION, THERE ARE TO BE NO MORE BABIES OR PREGNANCIES IN PAC [Pacific Area Command, LA].


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From ars and Factnet:

"Has Mr. Miscavige ever been married or been seen in the company of
> women? Does he have any children?"



"He at least was married to a woman named Shelly, the daughter of Flo
Barnett/Miller, a woman who supposedly committed suicide under strange
circumstances. Not that being married says much about orientation in
Davey's circle of friends. "

Here is an account by Jesse Prince:


http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/jesse_tape_2a.html


J: The first thing that I'll speak on is [Reading] "Flo Barnett, a.k.a.
Miller, who died from several gunshot wounds. She was David Miscavige's
mother-in-law. Just before her death she was reported to have had an
argument with David Miscavige and threatened to go public and sue
Scientology." What I know about this, I guess happened right during the
time of her death, no, actually, it was a little bit before because I
was auditing Shelly Miscavige.
L: Shelly is one of his twin sisters?
J: Shelly Miscavige is David Miscavige's wife, or was during that time
period, I assume she still is. I was doing auditing on her, and she
brought up the fact that she had a black person in her family. She
proceeded to tell me about this, that her father-in-law was black, and
living with her mother. She told me that they seemed to get along very
well, he was one person that understood her and took care of her. She
said that some people said that he took her money. She mentioned to me
that he just had a job fixing things, he would go out and fix things
for people. He didn't have a regular like 9-5 job where he went out and
reported to. As far as she could see, he took care of her mother very
well. She was happy to have a black person in there. She mentioned that
Dave Miscavige had met him and wasn't very approving of him, other
family members kind of shunned the mother.
L: The mother is Flo Barnett?
J: Yes, because she was married to this black person. Then, Pooh, who I
only know as Pooh and Sarge, which is Shelly's sister, who was one of
the two couples that were with L. Ron Hubbard at the ranch shortly
before and during, and all the time before and during and after his
death, working as his personal maids, servant people. Then, I remember
talking with her and speaking to David Miscavige after the woman had
died. Whereby I had already known that David Miscavige didn't care for
the father-in-law, but then Shelly told me - and she wasn't as
talkative about it as she had talked to me about other things, because
she would speak to me all the time - but she told me that her mother
had committed suicide and had shot herself several times with a rifle.
I just looked at her dead in the eye and said, "How in the hell can a
person kill themselves and take a rifle and shoot themselves several
times." She just looked at me and said, "I don't know, I really don't
know how she died, but she had several gunshot wounds." She said that
Dave Miscavige was saying that the father-in-law did it. Well, she
didn't believe the father-in-law did it, because they loved each other.
She was quite upset about it. I couldn't get her to talk about. I was
the person auditing her, so you know, we do all of these Scientology
routines you know.
L: She wouldn't talk at all about it?
J: No, she was just kind of in a state of deep sadness. She cried quite
a bit over it. It just didn't make sense that her mother shot herself
more than one time with a damn rifle. And how that could even happen,
she just wouldn't talk beyond that, beyond just is there an error,
she'd break about it, is there a problem, is there a withold about it,
that kind of thing.
L: What about -
J: - locating all of this stuff to alleviating it.
L: Did you hear anything between a conflict between David and the
mother-in-law? Did you hear anything that would say this is true or
not, the idea that she was getting auditing from David Mayo and David
Miscagive was very upset about it? Did you hear anything like that?
J: Yes, yes, yes, now that you bring this up. You see, because during
this time period is when we had Bob Mithoff in there as a plant, with
David Mayo and it was known that Flo was messing around with these
people, receiving stuff. Yes, it was. Yes, he was upset about that."


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SEA ORGANIZATION

27 November 1989


FLAG PERSONNEL ORDER 4115


TO: HAS AOLA
INFO: ED INT
SNR HCO PAC
CO CLO WUS
CO PAC
CAPTAIN AOLA


PERSONNEL ORDER
JILL GRAHAM


Reference: FO 3905 CHILDREN, SEA ORG MEMBERS AND SEA ORG ORGS


Jill Graham is in violation of FO 3905 as she has had a child since
this FO was issued, yet is still on AOLA staff.


Per FO 3905:


"Therefore the following policies regarding children and the Members
are hereby established:


1. Married Sea Org members currently posted in Sea Org orgs who wish
to have a new child may do so on the understanding that the parents
will be posted in a Class IV org. There is no change in their Sea Org
member status, they simply do not work or berth in an S.O.
installation. ..."


HCO AOLA has had more than adequate time to enforce FO 3905 but still
has not complied to this order. The HAS and the Supercargo AOLA are
hereby assigned the condition of Danger by the Senior PCO
International. It is expected that they turn in their condition
write-up to the Senior PCO International within 24 hours. Snr MAA PAC
HFA is to enforce this order being complied to.


Jill Graham is ordered to arrive to the Senior PCO International
office within 24 hours. She is being assigned to the Universe Corps
unit as a C/S.


SNR PCO INTERNATIONAL


Authorized by
AVC FLAG


for
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY
INTERNATIONAL


CSI:AVCF:LL:ll.sak


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This is from ars, circa 2002. I knew Jill, I did not hear inside the cult the cult that she committed suicide, we were told cancer, I believe. I will see if I can find it. I wonder what happened to her son?

Ladybird

The Auditor
> > SECTION: VITAL STATISTICS
> > DEATHS
> > Jill Graham, OT and auditor, causatively departed her body on
> > Aug 2, 2001.
> I assume this must mean Jill Graham, OT and auditor, committed
> suicide.



So sorry to hear that, losing someone you love is always hard,
but losing them due to suicide is killer, prayers for her family.

I suspected as much when reading "causatively departed her
body" as being a redefinition of the word "suicide".


Makes it sound like something "good" . . .


when in truth all it means is "here is somebody that was on
the bridge who attained Operating Thetan ~and~ an auditior,
yet demonstrates that scientology does ~NOT~ work."


I hope beyond hope that one day somehow someone will find
something that works 100% to prevent suicide, but as of now,
~NO~ body and ~NO~ organization has an answer or a cure.


However, the way that they put her suicide here really
openly demonstrates that Co$ ~still~ cannot confront the
fact that it does not work, and is filled with failures . . .


and that their members are still not-ising the truth
that what they believe works, does not work.


Co$ is filled with lots of people who have in turn chosen to
"causitively" leave their body. :-(


ARC = As-Ising the Real Co$,


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I am really sad about this. It seems Jill died of cancer on the PAC RPF in 2002. I hope her son Houston, who would be in his mid 20's now is OK...and not on the RPF. It seems like many of Jills family were in the Sea Org.

Jill was a very "upstat" SO member from a wealthy family. (So was Matteo.) The fact that this happened to her just shows how totally bizzare and cruel scientology is. I cannot imagine sending a sick person with 2 months to live to the RPF.

Ladybird

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A quote from Chuck Beatty about Jill Graham and her RPF twin Matteo Galbiati:

"Wow! I personally am shocked that Matteo didn't graduate the RPF.
When I was on the RPF, at the end. In Dec 02, I was asked who I
wished to finish up my auditing, and without question in my opinion
Matteo was the best auditor on the RPF. I wanted him to be my auditor
for my final auditing. That was not allowed, but to me his skill as a
Flag auditor was evident. He to me, was the only person on the PAC
RPF what to me represented what I observed in my earlier years at
Flag, which is a "Flag trained auditor". Matteo is definitely in my
book of that quality of tech person. Matteo is a Flag trained
auditor. He had/has excellent TRs, the best of anyone in my opinion
in the PAC RPF when I was there.

The way I remember it though, Jill and Matteo both returned to the PAC
RPF, and it was a couple months before she then died. I remember
Misha Parodi being Jill's buddy, staying with Jill, and Misha, bless
her, was Jill's companion till Jill passed. Matteo and Jill were
returned, when Jill discovered that her cancer returned, I believe
that is the sequence.

...

But Matteo was a Flag auditor in the best sense of what that means.
It is tragic the Scn movement is incapable of recognizing the best in
their own people, to me this is unfortunate. (What a warped viewpoint
mine must seem to some, but it sorrows me, having seen so many great
individuals move one way or the other out of the top ranks of the Sea
Org.)


Jill herself, to those who know of her history, this is a sad tale
also. Misha Parodi was Jill's buddy or companion the final months of
Jill's life, and Misha was Jill's buddy or companion earlier too when
Jill thought she had beaten the cancer she had. I grew to know Misha,
while I was routing out of the Sea Org myself, and Misha was routing
out too, and she got out before me. (I was sad in a way to see her
leave the Sea Org, her being so young, and her dad, Michael Parodi
being such a great guy, and Michael is in the IAS WUS Membership
office there in PAC, and it is always sad to see Sea Org families
split up, no matter why it happens.)


While we were chipping old paint off the steps and landings in the
stairwell closest to L. Ron Hubbard Way in the Lebanon Hall berthing
building at the complex in 2002, it was then that Misha told me about
her months with Jill, and the funny stories Jill told about her life.


Jill (a Class IX NOTs auditor I believe) would also fall under the
techincal definition of celebrity, her brother being a Hollywood
screenwriter or scriptwriter, and her brother had something to do with
the story line of the movie Private Benjamin, the Goldie Hawn film.
And Misha said the story line, Goldie's character, was based
indirectly on Jill's life, changing the US Army with the Sea Org, that
was the connection. Jill being a Bev Hills child of privilege,
rubbing elbows with all sorts of trendy jet setting types. And giving
up her Bev Hills life of many opportunities to dedicate her life in
the Sea Org, which was an admirable commitment, I cannot myself
disparage. I have to applaud Jill for what she felt was right about
what she was doing.


To hold Matteo responsible, and to lose his talent as an exceptional
auditor, it is just more twists in the odd fates played out in the Scn
movement. These people (Jill and Matteo) are very real, very good
people, in my book. "

Chuck Beatty
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A quote from Tory:



>> Galbiati, Matteo -- from Italy. FSO staff but he was sent to the PAC
>> RPF (Pacific Area Command, Rehabilitation Project Force) to avoid PR
>> (Public Relations) flaps, as he was a very well liked OT VII Solo Nots
>> C/S, well known to the public. Jill Graham was his "twin" whom he
>> graduated from the PAC RPF with in 2001. She was also from AOLA, and
>> last at the Orange County Universe Corps I believe. She DIED of
>> cancer shortly after graduating the RPF.



Jill Graham was one of my auditors at Flag, while on OT 7. I had no idea she
died! I'm REALLY sorry to hear this. She was a very good person.
She and I discussed Scientology's weird trips re medicine, as both of us
needed it, in a life or death way.

I was always trying to "handle" Epilepsy (even though I hadn't had a
seizure in 10 years then, 25 yrs now....but I never knew if it was really
gone, or not).
She had Diabetis. We both would talk about how we felt C of S weirdo ness on
medication was FOS.


I'm trying sorry to hear this. My sympathies to all who loved her, including
of course her family. WHAT A DRAG!!!!


As Matteo didn't get a good



>> "product" on Jill he was blamed for her death (despite the fact that
>> it was more than likely lack of medical treatment that caused her
>> untimely demise), Matteo was sent back to the RPF to do the program
>> all over again.


Jeeeeeeeeeeesh..what BS!

Matteo was Sea Org FSO staff since the mid 1980s; he



>> joined with his whole family when he was a young teenager. He was an
>> outstanding kid and worked hard to become an auditor and advanced
>> steadily up the levels with great pride. He was always encouraged to
>> carry on which he did and came all the way to the top as a Solo NOTS
>> C/S and on the Case level of OT VII himself. (No small achievement,
>> as anyone in the Sea Org can attest.)


Huge, really.
As an auditor he was an expert



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>> in the skills required as a Class IX, NOTS auditor. He was a very
>> hard worker and a dedicated Sea org member. As a Solo NOTS C/S he
>> served thousands of OT VII auditors from all over the planet. He
>> speaks at least 4 languages and was a major asset for FSO, and created
>> millions of dollars in VSD (Value of Service Delivered, counted in $
>> for training and auditing) for the organization. He was very popular
>> and very much liked by the home Solo NOTS auditors, so naturally he
>> had to be sent away to another RPF far away from Flag, hidden in the
>> basements of the big blue in PAC so he wouldn't be found or recognized
>> by the public wondering as to where he had gone. His mother is still
>> working at the FSO as a Class IX auditor, his brother Andrea was also
>> an auditor at the FSO but is now SP declared. About 8 years ago or
>> so, Andrea did the RPF program at Flag, graduated, but somehow got in
>> trouble after that and got SP declared. His father, Giancarlo was on
>> Solo NOTS and also was Sea Org staff at the FSO, but he got fed up
>> with something and routed out and went back to Italy. Apparently he
>> is living near Andrea and I recall Matteo telling me that they were
>> running some kind of a business. He is "Black tagged" on the board at
>> FSO as a Solo NOTS auditor, meaning that he's off the level and/or
>> disaffected.


"Black Tagged"???? Man, they really ARE going down the tubes!

At this stage Giancarlo is probably also SP declared if



>> he is in contact with his "SP" son, Andrea. Matteo was working hard
>> on his RPF program and wanted more than anything else to get back on
>> the production lines of FSO. One reason is because of his beautiful
>> wife Natalie, who is also a successful auditor and won an award
>> recently for "Auditor of the Year". We saw the event on video here in
>> the PAC RPF! Unfortunately, Matteo probably will never see his wife
>> again, or it will be in years to come. Matteo got sick while on the
>> RPF program and had to have heart surgery and now has a pacemaker.


Oh jeeeeeeeeesh, and he's a rather young person, eh?



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>> Off and on he faints and gets dizzy and even has to go to the hospital
>> for checkups when his pacemaker fails. I saw him having to wear a
>> heart monitor around the clock to check the functioning of his
>> pacemaker. Whenever someone has to go to the hospital while on the
>> RPF program a "security escort" of 2 other RPFers is required. All
>> three persons that have to leave the base to go to the hospital have
>> to get written approval from the RPF I/C and they have to pass e-meter
>> security checks done by an ethics officer before leaving the base for
>> "security" duty. Additionally, if you are working "on the decks" i.e.
>> doing projects like making furniture in the mill for the smaller Class
>> IV or V Organizations, you also have to get an approval from the
>> In-charge of that work area, and sometimes even getting your own
>> replacement is required, even though you are also "required" to act as
>> security to accompany someone to the hospital. What a "Catch 22!"
>> Most commonly you are required to "make up your decks time" using your
>> own 5 hours a day study time, to "pay" for the exchange of
>> accommodations. In other words, you are "granted the opportunity to
>> redeem yourself" and in order to work on your RPF program 5 hours a
>> day, you have to do physical work in form of cleaning jobs or
>> construction/renovations at least 8 hours a day. No credit is granted
>> for "overtime", which is frequently required to handle "Events" or
>> other "hill 10s". The "exchange" in the form of food and shelter (of
>> dubious quality) is to do renovations projects to upgrade the
>> buildings or other projects. That's why you see the entire Big Blue
>> being stained blue from bottom to top, some of the windows repaired
>> and a lot of furniture built by the RPF forces.

>> Nobody is allowed to come to the Flag Land Base with medical
>> conditions. I guess since the Lisa McPherson case was headline news,
>> no one with physical or mental problems is allowed to work or get
>> services on the Flag Land Base.



Well, that violates what RTC decided, with me. Interesting.....They wrote a
Senior C/S Int Bulliton saying that kind of Shit was totally OUT TECH, Not
OK, and ALL running it were crammed.

Matteo got a fitness board turndown
>> because of his medical problems in May/June of 2004 and was "off
>> loaded".


I love that...the guy works his ass off, then needs some help, so they
'Offload him". I've seen this more than once, self included. IDIOTS! F*** J E R K S.

He was working on plans and ways to be able to pay off his
>> freeloader bill as soon as possible. This is a bill for all the
>> courses and services that he took since he joined the Sea Org, despite >> the years of work he did for almost no pay. He told me that it could >> be as high as $150,000 or more. Being a computer genius he said he >> thought it shouldn't take him very long to get it paid off and get
>> back in the Sea Org. Of course, if he wants to get back together with
>> his wife and mother at Flag, (not likely with his heart condition) he
>> won't be able to contact his brother and father while he is out.


And they wonder why other religions don't like them. Look at that insanity!
That isn't religion! That's a mafia.

(Tory 14Nov2004)


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Maybe the fact that scientolgy has outlawed pregnancy in the Sea Org since 1986 makes this a moot topic.

However, abortions in the Sea Org started on the Apollo, and continue to this day. Sea Org women are forced and coercerd to abort their children.

The Church of Scientology is supposedly against a woman's right to
have an abortion. The Church has officially condemned women
who have abortions, and physicians who perform abortions, as
"murderers."

This is a shore story, and they are lying.

Ladybird


In Dianetics, The Modern Science of Mental Health,
L. Ron Hubbard, the Founder of the Church of Scientology, wrote:

_____________________________________________________


"Why people try to abort children is a
problem which has its answer only in
aberration . . . .
A society which suppresses sex as evil
and which is so aberrated that any member of
it will attempt an abortion is a society
which is dooming itself to ever-rising
insanity. For it is a scientific fact that
abortion attempts are the most important
factor in aberration. The child on whom the
abortion is attempted is condemned to live
with MURDERERS whom he reactively knows to
be murderers through all his weak and
helpless youth!"


L. Ron Hubbard, Dianetics, The Modern Science of Mental Health,
Book Two, Chapt. 7, at p. 152 ((c) 1989 L. Ron Hubbard Library)
(emphasis in original indicated by capitalization).


Hubbard goes on to state:


"Once the child is conceived, no matter how
'shameful' the circumstances, no matter the
MORES, no matter the income, that man or
woman who would attempt an abortion on an
unborn child is attempting a murder which
will seldom succeed and is laying the
foundation of a childhood of illness and
heartache."


Dianetics, Book Two, Chapt. 7, at p. 152 (emphasis in original
indicated by capitalization).


According to the Church of Scientology, not only is the
woman a murderer, but any doctor who recommends or performs an
abortion (or presumably a Judge who approves same for a minor)
must be removed from practice or office. Hubbard writes:


"Anyone attempting an abortion is committing
an act against the whole of society and the
future; any judge or doctor recommending an
abortion should be instantly deprived of
position and practice, whatever his
'reason.'"


Dianetics, Book Two, Chapt. 7, at p. 153.


L. Ron Hubbard and the Church of Scientology have also
determined all of the other "moral" and behavioral
characteristics of a women who have abortions. In Science of
Survival, Prediction of Human Behavior, Hubbard established a
"tone scale" for classifying individuals and evaluating human
behavior. See generally L. Ron Hubbard, Science of Survival,
Prediction of Human Behavior, Book One, Chapt. 1 ((c) 1951
L. Ron Hubbard). The tone scale ranges from -3 at the bottom
(death), to +4 at the top. See id. Any woman who has an
abortion falls, at best, at "1.1" on this tone scale:


"At 1.1, a mother will attempt the
abortion of her child; and any woman who
will abort a child, save only if the child
threatens her physical life (rather than her
reputation), lies in the 1.1 bracket or
below. She can be expected to be
unreliable, inconstant and promiscuous; and
the child is looked upon as evidence of this
promiscuity."


Science of Survival, Book One, Chapt. 18, at 118.


Once a woman has had an abortion, and thus demonstrated that
she falls at 1.1 (or below) on the Church of Scientology tone
scale, the Church believes it can predict all of her other
behavioral and "moral" characteristics. Hubbard states:


"At 1.1 on the tone scale we enter the
area of the most vicious reversal of the
second dynamic. Here we have promiscuity,
perversion, sadism, and irregular
practices."


Science of Survival, Book One, Chapt. 18, at 116.


For future reference, in the world of the Church of
Scientology: "Dynamic two is the urge of the individual toward
ultimate survival via the sex act, the creation of and the
rearing of children." See Dianetics, Book 1, Chapt. 4, at
p. 43. "This dynamic would normally be called sex." See Science
of Survival, Book One, Chapt. 18, at p. 114.


According to the Church of Scientology, anyone at "1.1" on
the tone scale, such as women who have had (or have attempted
to have) an abortion, are dangerous in the extreme:


"People on this level on the second
dynamic are intensely dangerous in the
society, since aberration is contagious. A
society which reaches this level is on its
way out of history, as went the Greeks, as
went the Romans, as goes modern European and
American culture. Here is a flaming danger
signal which must be heeded if a race is to
go forward."


Science of Survival, Book One, Chapt. 18, at 116.


Scientology, and its Founder, L. Ron Hubbard, teach that one
should not, and indeed cannot, trust a "1.1." This is because:
"Around 1.1, we reach the level of covert hostility." See
Science of Survival, Book One, Chapt. 8, at 56. To be more
precise:


"The person may claim to love others and to
have the good of others as his foremost
interest; yet, at the same moment, he works,
unconsciously or otherwise, to injure or
destroy the lives and reputations of people
and also to destroy property."


Science of Survival, Book One, Chapt. 8, at p. 56. Hubbard
further explains:


"At 1.1, we have lying, to avoid real
communication. * * * Here is the level of
covert hostility, the most dangerous and
wicked level on the tone scale. Here is the
person who smiles while he inserts a knife
blade between your vertebrae. * * * Here
is the insincere flatterer who yet awaits
only a moment of unguardedness to destroy.
* * * This is the level of the pervert
. . . ."


Science of Survival, Book 1, Chapt. 13, at 88-89. Such a
person "has only two purposes: to wreak the most harm upon
others, and secure the greatest safety for self." See Science
of Survival, Book 1, Chapt. 22, at 136.


For Hubbard and the Church of Scientology, the danger posed
by "1.1" cannot be underestimated. Indeed:


"From 1.3 down to 0.6 we have the
general area of the subversive, who promises
a people freedom and equality and gives them
a slaughter of their best minds and cultural
institutions, to the end of a totalitarian
dominance."


Science of Survival, Book 1, Chapt. 27, at 163.


According to Hubbard and the Church of Scientology, given
this danger posed by "1.1s," society is faced with only one
choice:


"No social order which desires to
survive dares overlook its stratum 1.1's.
No social order will survive which does not
remove these people from its midst."


Science of Survival, Book 1, Chapt. 13, at 90. To Hubbard and
the Church of Scientology, the final solution is a simple one:


"Such people should be taken from the
society as rapidly as possible and uniformly
institutionalized; for here is the level of
the contagion of immorality, and the
destruction of ethics;"


Science of Survival, Book 1, Chapt. 13, at 89.


On the other hand, the Church of Scientology offers an
alternative final solution:


"The only answers would seem to be the
permanent quarantine of such persons from
society to avoid the contagion of their
insanities and the general turbulence which
they bring to any order, thus forcing it
lower on the scale, or processing such
persons until they have attained a level on
the tone scale which gives them value."


Science of Survival, Book 1, Chapt. 21, at 131. Thus, the
Church offers a choice to women who are considering abortion.
Such women can avoid being quarantined or institutionalized by
simply undergoing Church "processing" to raise their tone level
to that "which gives them value."


Finally, while the Hubbard and the Church of Scientology
have determined that "1.1s" are dangerous in the extreme, it
appears they have also concluded that the threat "1.1s" pose can
be easily dealt with. This is because:


"At 1.1, we have reached fear, on the
tone scale, and when the individual rises
above fear we have underhanded displays of
action. If the individual is suddenly
addressed by danger, however, we have
cowardice."


Science of Survival, Book 1, Chapt. 23, at 141.


-- Elvis Cole.


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NOTE RE: FAIR USE:


Please note that the quotations set forth above from
Dianetics, The Modern Science of Mental Health, and Science
of Survival, Prediction of Human Behavior, do not infringe the
copyrights on said works, but instead constitute fair use. See
17 U.S.C. Sec. 107; New Era Publications Int'l ApS v. Carol Pub.
Group, 904 F.2d 152 (2nd Cir. 1990), cert. denied, 498 U.S. 921,
111 S.Ct. 297, 112 L.Ed.2d 251 (1990); Hustler Magazine,
Inc. v. Moral Majority, Inc., 796 F.2d 1148 (9th Cir. 1986).


NOTE RE: CURRENT PERTINENCE OF PRIMARY SOURCES:


Although Dianetics, The Modern Science of Mental Health
was first published in 1950, and Science of Survival, Prediction
of Human Behavior was first published in 1951, both books are
currently sold and taught at Scientology Churches worldwide.
Indeed, the Dianetics & Scientology Materials - United States
Price List, Effective January 1995, quotes from HCO Pl 9 May 1982,
entitled "Books are Assets," as follows:


"It has been said a single Dianetics or
Scientology book is more valuable to the
human race than the discovery of the wheel
or fire."


Dianetics & Scientology Materials - United States Price List,
Effective January 1995, at p. 3 ((c) 1995 CSI).


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This is true, and should anyone doubt it, just do your own investigation on the Internet, or read some of the books written by ex scientologists available here on Operation Clambake Main Page.

If you ever wonder why some of us ex Sea Org are angry and impatient with imposters I hope a search of abortions and children will help you understand. It is now the second and third generation of kids who grew up in the sea org who are being forced to have abortions, divorce their spouses and disconnect from their parents.

Ladybird
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Sometimes the punishment lasted for many days, and the youngest child
sent into the chain locker was barely five years old.

There were other forms of punishment, including having a man's wife and
daughters watch, as the "Commodore" shouted, "Faster, faster!" while
their father was subjected to Hubbard's "ethics action" of having him
push a peanut around the coarse wooden deck with his nose.

David Mayo's recounting of this event is worth reading again.

Now the monster has morphed into thousands of little monsters, with the
littlest monster possessing the account numbers to overseas bank
accounts said to exceed hundreds of millions of dollars.

The abuse of children, in the Sea Org, continues.

As Sara Northrup, L. Ron Hubbard's 2nd wife, told Paulette Cooper, "His
sickness is not just destructive, it is also contagious."


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I'm not sure if the forcing of abortions is prevalent anymore. The feeling I got when I was SO was that getting pregnant was your ticket out if you needed an excuse to leave. This may be different the higher up in the SO you are.


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From Code9red on alt.religion.scientology

"Here is some inside track on the Sea Org that speaks volumes about their
"concern" for the individual.Several years ago, it used to be that if an SO
member became pregnant she would be shipped off to a class 4 org until the kid
was 6, at which point she could go back into the SO.The rule has been changed
by Executive Director Int. Guillame Leserve sp! Now, if they become pregnant
they are "routed-out" complete with free-loader bill.


The SO targets young girls aged 13-14 for recruitment. They frequenly marry at
15-16. They will remain capable of reproduction for at least 25 years. Sex
twice a week for that period = 2500 times. If birth control is 99.9%
effective, they will get pregnant at least twice. Then the Church will dump
them, bill them for all services taken, their husbands may chose to leave the
SO or stay in and abandon them. They will not have a high-school diploma or
college degree. How will they live and support a child if they chose to keep
it -welfare ? so despised by Hubbard as "downstat". Hubbard condems abortion
in Science of Survival, is it now official chuch policy ? "


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