Paulien Lombard speaks against Scn in Temecula

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Paulien Lombard speaks against Scn in Temecula

Post by I'mglib » Wed May 23, 2012 9:41 pm

Last week Muriel Dufresne tried to pull a fast one on the Temecula City Council when she spoke at a city council meeting about the church's drug program.

I tell you, you have to be vigilent with these guys. They keep coming back like a fungus. Critics have to keep educating local and federal politicians because the church doesn't give up, even when they are smacked down (or even jailed).

So here is Muriel Dufresne:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzL8P-GRayM
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Re: Paulien Lombard speaks against Scn in Temecula

Post by I'mglib » Wed May 23, 2012 9:44 pm

The state of California actually commisioned a study back in 2005 which concluded that basically the church makes stuff up. Sources weren't creditied (other than LRH) and science wasn't used.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... BFKV81.DTL
State Superintendent Jack O'Connell urged all California schools on Tuesday to drop the Narconon antidrug education program after a new state evaluation concluded that its curriculum offers inaccurate and unscientific information.

"We'll get a letter out to every school district today, saying this program is filled with inaccuracies and does not reflect widespread medical and factual evidence," O'Connell said of Narconon Drug Prevention & Education, a free program with ties to the Church of Scientology.

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The stories reported that Narconon's instruction rests, in part, on church beliefs that drug residues remain indefinitely in body fat, causing people to experience repeated drug flashbacks and cravings. Some teachers also reported that Narconon instructors taught their students that drug residues can be sweated out in saunas and that colored ooze is produced when drugs exit the body.

Scientology correspondence obtained by The Chronicle said Narconon's instruction is delivered in language purged of most church parlance, but includes "all the Scientology and Dianetics Handbook basics."
But the church keeps repackaging, and trying to slither into the school district like snakes. It's still the same crap with a new name.
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Post by I'mglib » Wed May 23, 2012 9:46 pm

Enter Paulien Lombard, our hero. She appeared yesterday at the city council meeting to work her magic. We are waiting for the video on the city website.

http://www.cityoftemecula.org/Temecula/ ... etings.htm

Popcorn.
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Post by Wieber » Wed May 23, 2012 10:01 pm

I'mglib wrote:But the church keeps repackaging, and trying to slither into the school district like snakes. It's still the same crap with a new name.
That's one of the reasons for this thread.
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=74160

Try as they might they cannot avoid slipping $cientologese into what they write and say.

"Who are they?"
In this case they are the people from $cientology who covertly try to get their mind controlling 'technology' into use with a financial return to their so called church.

If they really want to be effective at what they are doing they should read Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan. That will tell them exactly how to do their job without any intervening deception, which is what they get from L. Ron Hubbard's directions.
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Re: Paulien Lombard speaks against Scn in Temecula

Post by I'mglib » Thu May 24, 2012 12:49 am

Right, Scientology can't hide who they are because it's built into their own special vocabulary and brand of thinking.

While we're waiting for the video to be posted here's more about the study that California paid for which resulted in Narconon being tossed out of schools here.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... BFKV81.DTL
The report, funded by the state and released today by the Hayward-based California Healthy Kids Resource Center, did not evaluate whether Narconon crossed the church-state line in public schools.

Instead, five medical doctors and nine school health education specialists evaluated Narconon for scientific accuracy and how well its teaching methods might help students avoid taking drugs.

Information provided to students by Narconon "does not reflect accurate, widely accepted medical and scientific evidence," the researchers said. "Some information is misleading because it is overstated or does not distinguish between drug use and abuse."

The report offered these examples of Narconon's inaccuracies:

-- Drugs burn up vitamins and nutrients.

-- Drug-activated vitamin deficiency results in pain.

-- Marijuana-induced, rapid vitamin and nutrient loss causes food cravings known as "munchies."

-- Small amounts of drugs stored in fat are released at a later time (and) cause the person to re-experience the drug effect and desire to use again.

Examples of "misleading statements" include the ideas that the amount of a drug taken determines whether it acts as a stimulant or sedative, and that drugs "ruin creativity and dull senses."
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Re: Paulien Lombard speaks against Scn in Temecula

Post by mnql1 » Tue May 29, 2012 9:24 pm

At the Temecula City Council meeting on May 22, 2012, ex-Scientologist Paulien Lombard spoke out against the presentation that Scientology public relations official Muriel Dufresne gave to Temecula City Council on May 8 about the "Drug-Free World" organization and its anti-drug campaign.

On YouTube: Paulien Lombard denounces Scientology's Narconon drug rehab at Temecula City Council, May 22, 2012

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Re: Paulien Lombard speaks against Scn in Temecula

Post by I'mglib » Wed May 30, 2012 5:42 am

Wow, how amazing was she? That was a really great speech, and I wouldn't be surprised if she single-handedly torpedoed the church's efforts to get into the schools in Temecula.

Really great job, Paulien.
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