From Caroline, Gerry's wife...

"On June 3, 2012, Gerry and I published a short video containing a couple of clips from an interview German filmmaker Markus Thoess did of Mike Rinder for the recently aired OSA documentary. Thoess gave Gerry the clips and authorized him to publish them because they show Rinder black PRing Gerry and Graham Berry.

Scientologists, apparently using Ursula Caberta, pressured Thoess to go against Gerry, otherwise the "truth" they know about Biggi Reichert's death would not be brought out. This pressure resulted in Thoess making a copyright infringement claim, which we believe was made in bad faith, and YouTube removed the video.

We have now just posted Gerry's declaration in support of a counter-notification to Youtube: http://www.gerryarmstrong.ca/archives/312"

Slimebag Mike Rinder's actions have caused a shitstorm on ESMB & Facebook groups focused on the cult. Thanks to an anon, the incriminating video has been reposted on RuTube (Russian):

http://rutube.ru/tracks/5711421.html

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.p ... aham-Berry

KUDOS to the Nony for putting it up and KUDOSm Smurf for bring it here.

I'll just quote myself from elsewhere on the subject
"That is why Martyr and Co show that indie scientology in essence is no more lighter than the church brand.

Taking scientology out of the church and offering it elsewhere doesn't stop people from being lying douchebags for the greater good KSW blah blah WE WILL RULE THE WORLD!!

Thanks Martyr and Mik, you again solidify that "belief" in scientology as a subject maeks one a willing participant in whatever it takes to protect scientology and LaFatty



Yet another get square(IMHO) for Gerry getting hubbard's own admissions entered into the court record where never was it disputed as to their authenticity, just that what Gerry had was taken and they wanted it back. Certainly turned Omar on his head.





If people don't know the whole Armstrong thing, then they may never see why scientology remains a danger until it is stripped bare.



Gerry can never be shit on enough, lied about, attacked personally by scientologists both in and out of that 'church'.



They owe it to Ron and scientology to do "whatever it takes".

What's that about "always even the score""

EDIT:
http://rutube.ru/tracks/5711421.html

Yes, well, no amount of begging from a Journo would have me take this^ down.

Should Rinder dead agenting people be allowed to go unfetted?
How did the film maker think Gerry would react to someone calling him a liar and a kook to be discounted by default?
Same with Graham?


*insert On Control and Lying AKA Technique88 Sacrement *

Ugh.

Wake up, Mike.

This behavior is classic footbullet. You attack your foe in such a way you just make yourself look bad, and make your foe look like the good guy.

Rinder is a pathetic little worm. The only difference between the CoS and the "Independents" is that the Independents aren't big or strong enough to fair game and black PR people with the kind of potency that the CoS does. Shame old shit, smaller dose.

Tsk! Tsk! Michael! "Where will thou find a cavern dark enough to mask thy monstrous visage"

Better check your back there Marty! .....on second thoughts....don't bother. You two deserve each other!

I'm sure Graham will be completely unaffected by Rinder. He has been hit by sticks and stones from the cult in the past so the words of an ex-sci don't do much to hurt him.

I've actually only just been made aware of the latest massive fart by Rindie Corp!

It's nice to see "Mike on top" for a change! *snork*

Oh dear, Mike says that he does not like Graham as Graham is dishonest.

Speaking about dishonesty, check out Mike on this 2006 TV show after Janet Reitman wrote the Rolling Stone article about Scientology. Mike's part starts at 5:45 into the interview. He denies disconnection is applied in organized scientology at about 7:00. Other big lies in there too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BH3o94rRZk

Gawd but that is hard to watch!

As for Graham, I really like him, respect him and consider him a real friend. Same with Gerry.

Gerry and Graham have been fighting scientology lies and abuses for years while Mike has been attacking both of them for years, first from within organized scientology and now as an indee scientologist.

After all Mike did to them you would think he would try to make it up to them but sadly he is still stuck in the lies.

I really wish Mike recovery from scientology but, while he still supports it and hurts others who are fighting to get the truth out, I just find it really sad.

I've sent the link to Graham. Mike's antics doesn't faze him.

I know, for a fact, that if it weren't for DM degrading Mike on a personal level, he'd still be running OSA today. I've known Mike for a long time. He enjoyed his role as OSA Director and has never felt the need to apologize to any of his victims.

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This 100%. In fact I think a lot of indies would still be in the CoS if not for their ass being chapped by personal abuse or insults, and for damn sure Mike and Marty would still be in if DM hadn't tapped danced on their egos. Mike certainly put up with a lot of BS just to hang on to his IC of dirty tricks job.

This is the problem with so many who get out of the official cult, they didn't leave for the right reasons - only due to personal mistreartment. They still believe in LRon and his ridiculous "tech."

Scientology - Cult of Lies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzf-BvZqOH0&feature=youtu.be

Right. The irony of Mike calling Graham dishonest is pretty staggering.

I'm reading the last chapters of Janet Reitman's book and there's a part where Rinder wears down a Sea Org member named Tanya to finally sign divorce papers and leave her husband. He makes like spouses are no big deal. It's sad. I wonder if he feels bad about this.

On the other hand, Graham is an awesome, honest, caring, gracious, kind, dedicated person. Not a bad looking guy, either.

The thought just hit me that Debbi Cook and Rathbun and Rinder and others did take part in the abuse or knew about it and they all did this because they knew that Ron wanted them to do that, but they leaved the church when the abuse happened to them, but they all blame David Miscavige for it, yet they know deep down that it was posthumously on Hubbard’s order, they delude themselves when they blame David Miscavige for it!