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 Post subject: CoS businessmen likely Ron Paul activists at GOP convention
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:28 am 
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Ron Paul was the ONLY politician favored on Scientologist businessmen "career" pages and on social media, when I was researching them for how they fit into the Scientology Celebrity Spiderweb. I kept seeing Ron Paul, over and over, but only on Scientologist men sites, not Scientologist women sites. Older men were more likely active, but there were 30-something Scientologist men, too.

Recent news says Ron Paul activists are taking power over several State Republican Parties, and even changing their rules in favor of nominating candidates at State Conventions, where Ron Paul activists can dominate, compared to having a primary (see, Ron Paul gets adoring followers but not many votes). If Scientologists, who already have strong in-group loyalty and KNOW how to fund-raise, get entrenched in State Republican leadership positions, this will can get them nominated for State Cabinet posts, or at least access to those in State government. Likely targets:
State education - to favor Applied Scholastics
State prisons - to favor Criminon
State-subsidized drug treatment - to favor Narconon
State Attorneys General - to go easy on fraudulent religions, or workplaces forcing CoS courses
State Departments of Labor - to go easy on wage theft and employee abuse

Ron Paul's definition of freedom definitely is boss-oriented - the freedom to impose and exploit. Scientology/WISE's flog-your-people-with-stats-and-impose-your-religion-on-them dogma will fit right into a State run by Ron Paul people.

The one flaw is that the Scientology businessmen have to say they're anti-abortion in order to fit in, because Ron Paul wants a government small enough to fit into women's vaginas. But these businessmen have donated to CoS for years, and CoS's top leadership had for years the (secret) forced-abortion rule for Sea Org workers. Unwilling in the past to just let the women quit, CoS hounded them until they broke down and had the abortion. Since the Headley lawsuit and the glaring publicity about forced abortions, CoS is more likely to push the preggy ladies OUT, so if it comes up, here's the likely conversation:
"So you're a Scientologist; didn't the Sea Org in the past have forced abortions?"
"Scientology does not have forced abortions. I am personally totally anti-abortion. Furthermore I think blah blah (change the subject)." (Notice they don't use the past tense or specify Sea Org).

Some people predict some Ron Paul power-grabbing, rule-changing, and a show of enthusiasm at the Republican convention, to be held in Tampa August 27-August 30, 2012* Lots of Scientology businessmen have a home in the Clearwater area, one bridge away from Tampa. Keep an eye out for them.

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Republican_National_Convention


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 Post subject: Re: CoS businessmen likely Ron Paul activists at GOP convent
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:14 pm 
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Although Scientology has never an overtly political organization, I have found it interesting when the subject comes up, regardless of the content.
To site a couple of examples: Hubbard, for whatever reason despised Franklin D. Roosevelt (this popped up in at least one of his books), and in 1960, the Washington D.C. org was raided by the Feds and Hubbard blamed in on then-VP Richard Nixon, weeks before the 1960 Presidential election.
He called Nixon a “bad man” (hello kettle, this is pot) and told Scientologists in some sort of bulletin, to not vote for Nixon.

More recently, from my direct experience, most Scientologists who do indeed vote lean heavily towards Libertarian (thus the Ron Paul connection) or conservative Republican. As with much of the general public, the wealthy public Scientologists were definitely of the conservative Republican variety (such as the Feshbachs of Northern California), and nearly all the working-class Scientologists also leaned this way (when I was “twinning” with a guy who was doing the Purification Rundown he stated how much he hated Bill and Hillary Clinton and dismissed both as SP’s.)

Much of Scn staff, and especially Sea Org members were mostly apolitical. I think that fell into the same category as being instructed to NOT watch television, or read newspapers and magazines. As we all know it was about Hubbard and nothing but Hubbard’s writing/ranting and insipid lectures. All other input was “entheta”.

Finally, I think that all Ron Paul supporters, Scientologists and general public will reluctantly rally around Mitt Romney, even if they have to hold their noses, since in many cases, their utter hatred of Barack Obama will outweigh any misgivings about Romney.

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 Post subject: Re: CoS businessmen likely Ron Paul activists at GOP convent
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:47 pm 
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I agree they'll hold their nose and vote for Romney, but the real prize is riding that Ron Paul train into the state capitol, getting state jobs and state influence. Those CoS businessmen dirtied by scandal (a surprisingly high percentage) may not run for office, fearing unmasking and mockery. But there's opportunity even in the smaller states, not just to influence, but to stick their hands in the cookie jar.


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 Post subject: Re: CoS businessmen likely Ron Paul activists at GOP convent
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:28 pm 
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Scientology public don't know about the forced abortions; they don't read Clambake or other critic sites or anything "entheta."

...and if they should encounter something surely it is just some SP lying.


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 Post subject: Re: CoS businessmen likely Ron Paul activists at GOP convent
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:42 pm 
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Reminder to look for wealthy Scientologist men*, among the Florida and California delegations, at the Republican convention starting this Monday. Don't wish for Hurricane Isaac to hit Tampa, though. Almost NOBODY in Tampa is a Scientologist. Many rich Scientologists prefer to live in Palm Harbor near Clearwater.

* Many are listed in the Scientology Celebrity Spiderweb at viewtopic.php?f=9&t=69963


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 Post subject: Re: CoS businessmen likely Ron Paul activists at GOP convent
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:03 pm 
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4truth2 wrote:

Finally, I think that all Ron Paul supporters, Scientologists and general public will reluctantly rally around Mitt Romney, even if they have to hold their noses, since in many cases, their utter hatred of Barack Obama will outweigh any misgivings about Romney.
Wasn't Marty Rathbun a campaign volunteer for Obama in 2008?

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 Post subject: Re: CoS businessmen likely Ron Paul activists at GOP convent
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:10 pm 
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JonDoe wrote:
4truth2 wrote:
Finally, I think that all Ron Paul supporters, Scientologists and general public will reluctantly rally around Mitt Romney, even if they have to hold their noses, since in many cases, their utter hatred of Barack Obama will outweigh any misgivings about Romney.
Wasn't Marty Rathbun a campaign volunteer for Obama in 2008?
Marty was the South Texas campaign manager for Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign. It was a volunteer position.

http://number6enturb.wordpress.com/2008 ... gn-branch/

It's possible that a few Scientologists will be Ron Paul delegates, considering how easy it was for ANYONE to become a delegate of his, with a little planning & preparation.

http://ronpauldelegates.wordpress.com/

It's because of this & other Ron Paul tactics, that the Republican majority has fought to keep Paul's delegates out of the RNC. They view him as a total joke.

http://www.dailypaul.com/248572/louisia ... ose-appeal

His campaign has had to file a federal lawsuit to be recognized..

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... tes-suit-/


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