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 Post subject: Good ol' Yarns from the Int Base #2
PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:37 pm 
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I just remembered one of the final straws that got me to realize I had to leave. The jig was up.

Those of you who were at Int in the late 90's will remember a series of briefings from Jenny Devocht called "Wake up and smell the coffee." I believe she was Acting CO CMOI at the time as Yager was on the RPF. Davey declared him an SP which was the subject of a whole other base briefing from Dave.

These briefings were literally a slide show to show us how empty the orgs were and during what should be peak production hours. We were shown hundreds of photos every night over a several day period of almost every class V org course room, HGCs, etc. All of which were completely empty. One or two students here and there.

I'm positive that the effect these briefings was supposed to have was to get us all worried about the state of Scientology internationally and to get us to work even harder. But for me and probably others, it had an opposite effect.

I thought how on Earth could we be working so hard and for so many years that the course rooms are freakin empty? And internationally? Are our marketing campaigns really that ineffective? All of our campaigns are COB approved which means that they should work right? I mean they're on Source, etc. Lot's of thoughts racing through my mind over the state of things. I realized that the world was not buying Scientology. Something was terribly wrong and I couldn't see it for myself because I had no contact with the outside world. I had to find out for myself. I had to get out.

And another thing I realized was that although we were finally being shown some truth about the real state of things, we were seriously lying to the public. What about all these $cientology events where the public are briefed on international stats and how booming $cn is. What a load of crap! I remember at the next event being sick at my stomach as the stats were announced knowing it was a complete falsehood.

I even remember thinking that maybe the "Smell the coffee" briefings were a lie to the base crew to get us more productive or something. But after getting out and seeing for myself that orgs are empty, I realized it was the truth.

Getting out was quite a process and could be an entire novel or movie unto itself, but that story will be told at a later time.

Who else remembers these briefings?

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 Post subject: Re: Good ‘ol Yarns from the Int Base #2
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:41 am 
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I just remembered one of the final straws that got me to realize I had to leave. The jig was up.

Those of you who were at Int in the late 90’s will remember a series of briefings from Jenny Devocht called “Wake up and smell the coffee.�



Jenny Devocht.

As they say on "Sex and the City":

See You Next Tuesday.


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Lulu, you tell the story...I have done so a couple of times. Here is a picture of Jenny:


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http://home.snafu.de/tilman/clearwater1998/rpf.epf.html
In 8 years, only one person has been identified (who has died). If you
haven't visited the page above yet, do so and e-mail me if you recognise
someone.

Tilman


Hopefully this site has been updated....

Ladybird

http://home.snafu.de/tilman/clearwater1998/rpf.epf.html


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Yup, that's Jenny. I also recognized Stefan Lewis (Cine Pre-prod Dir) - blonde hair and sunglasses. I guess he was RPFd too huh?

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Ladybird wrote:
Lulu, you tell the story...I have done so a couple of times. Here is a picture of Jenny:


Was she actually on the RPF here?

I couldn't tell.


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BTs2Free wrote:
I thought how on Earth could we be working so hard and for so many years that the course rooms are freakin empty?


Yeah, that is interesting isn't it?

Way back in time, the Riverside Mission course rooms (Comm Course, HQS, and HSDC) and the ASHO course rooms (HPCSC and SHSBC) were PACKED with people - lots of people everywhere and coming from so many places.

There has been more than one collapse AND SCN "tech" ain't gonna fix it either.


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Maybe this isn't the RPF but my god, they look absolutely miserable!

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These briefings were literally a slide show to show us how empty the orgs were and during what should be peak production hours. We were shown hundreds of photos every night over a several day period of almost every class V org course room, HGCs, etc… All of which were completely empty. One or two students here and there.


Boy, this caught me by surprise! I cannot believe you guys were shown this. How could they not think that you would come to the conclusion that COB was not doing his job.

Do you think they thought you guys weren't working hard enough and if you did work harder those course rooms would fill up? What a joke! Let me tell you, alot of public don't buy these stats either. We may not have shared this with anyone at the time, but we sure were thinking this. At not once, ever did I ever think it was because the SO weren't working hard enough.


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Lulubelle, No, Jenny was not on the RPF in that pic, look at her jewelry and make up and hairdo...NOT allowed on the RPF!

I know you have read my previous posts about Jenny.,.,.,FINE! I will look them up.

Here is one:
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006

Jenny DeVogt- CMO, was WDC (Watch Dog Committee) over Flag, went to INT RTC. She is the pretty dark haired girl wearing a necklace, so I think she must have been inspecting the project, as RPFers are not allowed make-up, hairdos or any jewelry.

Ladybird

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I got to thinking the other day when I was responding to Tilman's request for IDs on certain RPFers photographed in Clearwater working on a Gold set- up.

One of the pictures was "Jenny", who as the Flag Crew Event I/C (in charge) and that reminded me of the fact that Jenny was married to the German guy who was in charge of the "Special Properties" (or whatever they called it) and he was in charge of "Collectors Editions" of books, E-meters, posters, etc which were supposed to be investment quality "Collectors Editions".

The "Planetary Dissemination" model of the E-meter was the same old mark 7 guts with a super laminated custom colored oval face. Not only was it the same old meter with a new paint job, it was marketed only to "UPSTAT" (rich) scientologists on the OT levels, so did not come with a meter sheild or a full selection of cans, and since OT's self audit they do not need a sheild or a variety of cans to accomadate others, only themselves.

These "special" e-meters sold for like 10 grand, and supposedly the "profit" went to IAS funds and Sea Org reserves. (Which must be why Jenny and her hubby were driving around in a new BMW).

Jenny was later on a "baby watch" at INT. Some might call that an "Introspection Rundown."

Anybody know where Jenny is now?

Ladybird


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daisy wrote:

Boy, this caught me by surprise! I cannot believe you guys were shown this. How could they not think that you would come to the conclusion that COB was not doing his job.

Do you think they thought you guys weren't working hard enough and if you did work harder those course rooms would fill up? What a joke! Let me tell you, alot of public don't buy these stats either. We may not have shared this with anyone at the time, but we sure were thinking this. At not once, ever did I ever think it was because the SO weren't working hard enough.


Yeah Daisy. The base crew, especially the ones in Gold were always considered to not be working hard enough. I was there for years and witnessed that there were Hill 10s ALL THE TIME. Most production was geared around what the next event or release would be. TMs and deadlines had to be made. Any staff member standing around outside even to have a smoke was considered idle. And if caught by an MAA or Exec was berrated and told to get back to post. I would see people walk across the base "looking busy" just so they could have a smoke. Literally! I did it myself! In over a decade I had libs two times. And out of those years had a total of 5 days to visit family. CSWs for people to visit family over the hollidays were rejected like machinery and you can't imagine the "PTS" situations that spawned because of that. This was all in the name of production and "clearing the planet." So, yes, they wanted us to work even harder and we never got an acknowledgement that we were really doing a good job. Ask COB when the last time even Gold got to go out on a reward outing. That must've been like 1991!

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Ladybird wrote:
Lulubelle, No, Jenny was not on the RPF in that pic, look at her jewelry and make up and hairdo...NOT allowed on the RPF!




I didn't think so...

...but I have gotten the impression recently that the RPF, especially those crew who might be seen in public and photographed, are wearing more "normal" clohes. Like jeans and t-shirts.

So, I wasn't really sure what it was that the RPF could and couldn't wear.

Am I right about this? Or are the photos I've seen recently of SO staff in jeans moving things out of trucks and stuff just staff "on the decks"?


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Hmmm...I guess you are right, LL. The grey arm rags are gone for some time, and the public humiliation of being an "RPF"er is gone too. In recent years, RPF were made to follow back stairs and alternate schedules so as not to be "out PR" for public and staff. They still run (rpf shuffle run) up and down the stairs and every where else, but I think that the RPF is currently thought of as a "break", and a way to get your "PTP"s (present time problems") such as dental, medical, family, case and so on handled before you go back on the burner.

It is really a sad statement on the state of the cult when the RPF is considered a reprieve rather than a punishment.

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It still amazes me that a group of dedicated people working together and being punished all the time for every minor infraction, wouldn't just "get it" at the same time that the real "why" was miscavige himself.

He was approving everything, wasn't he? In any real organization or corporation they would have ditched this innefective bonehead real fast.

What keeps everyone from just saying "get him"?

And then giving him a swirly and a pink belly and a royal blanket party?

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pitbull wrote:
What keeps everyone from just saying "get him"?



It really is a good question.

And hard to answer unless you've "been there".

On major reason is that people are forbidden to think those thoughts, no less have conversations about those thoughts.


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I asked a similar question of a fairly newly out Sea Org member,
who is quite tall.........certainly taller than DM.

I said, "How could DM beat *you* up?"

His answer: "It's not just me. He has a ton of guys surrounding
you, and we knew if we did ~anything~ there would be serious
ramifications".

Plus, keep in mind you're IN a mind controlled CULT, where it's
really "Unthinkable" to hit the kingfish, no matter what a dork he
may be.

Lastly, keep in mind how utterly isolated everyone is. It isn't like
you're all 'discussing' what horseshit this may be. That's utterly
a "High Crime" and "Treason". Hubbard knew how to con people,
and build a serious TRAP. This is no small potatoes, on the rating
of bad CULTS, the academics who have studied cults and their behavior
say the two worst cults are "The Moonies and Scientology". Why?
Because of the very traps I'm referring to.

Thanks for the stories! :wink:

Tory/Magoo~~ 8)


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