BG: Glad you like it It's true, that rat does look like L. Ron Hubbard, doesn't it? Hat and all!

Tory/Magoo~~

Tory,
"j" and I ARE inthe same category as Lisa and Greg. Greg was the first person I ever spoke to who had been where I had been.

The difference is --- we lived to talk about it, and we have to talk about it, for the sake of those who no longer can.

And for the sake of those that may be experiencing what we went through.

There are more than myself and "J" who have survived,,, and we are healing, and the stronger we get, the more vocal and active we will become.

thanks, tory

Ode to Fallen Comrades

Fallen comrades rise again,

From the Cult and its sins,

Our lessons were paid with blood and tears,

Will be remembered through the years,

Our heart is freed, our mind is strong,

We were just deceived and wronged,

Hubbard missed the biggest deal,

That thetans are just Love revealed.

Blessings to all, Sea Ogre

Nancy...

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Tory/Magoo~

I love that poem...

Hubbard Missed the biggest deal,
that thetans are just love revealed


thank you for that

nancy

Nancy, I am answering you here because this thread puts your request in context, plus this is one of the most important threads I have read for quite awhile. I hope that some of the newer posters here will take a look at Kates story and Kathryns story. (Start at the top of the archives).

As much as I would love to get in touch with you and many other posters here, I am obligated to maintain a deep cover for now. Less than a handful of people know who I am, and they are sworn to secrecy. I am not trying to be mysterious, and I promise I will come out someday hopefully soon. I am working on some projects that would be jeapordized by any leaks to osa. It is not that I don't trust you and have the deepest compassion for what you have been through.

I am very interested in your ideas for freeing people from the cult, and I am sure Tory would be too.

I think it is usually best to share information on a board like this so others can read and share their advice and experience too. If it is something you don't want OSA to know, I understand keeping it back channel, and since Tory mentioned on line that she knew you, that is why I suggested you call her.

(PS: Tory just found out I was Ladybird, even though we had known each other for years in scientology. I want to make this clear so no one accuses her of having information she did not have.)

Ladybird,
I hope that the reason you need to stay anonymous is because you are working on a way to bring down the cult. You don't know me but I have a vested interest in seeing the "ship go down".

Ladybird, thanks for your reply. I honor your privacy. While OSA knows who I am, I am basically very private, and don't post publically much at all. Tory has my OK to tell you privately anything about me,,, but not publicly, and I will leave it up to you when you feel appropriate to contact me. It's simply from some of your posts I felt I may know you,,,
All in due time
and all will unfold as it needs to.
blessings to you
nancy

Nancy and ClamScam, Thanks to both of you!

So many more powerful and intelligent people than me have been working for years to bring down the cult, with some great successes, but sadly they are still here.

I think that has alot to do with their tactics of abusive litigation, under the table payoffs, noisy investigations and black PR against anyone they consider a threat. Look at what they did to Mayor of Clearwater Gabe Cazares, Time Magazine and Richard Behar, countless others. I would love to know how they got the IRS to break Federal Law and give them a special tax break.

Besides, I think DM and his lackeys are doing a fabulous job of bringing down the cult!

I do have some projects to help them along though, and trust me, DM is NOT going to like it!

Ladybird,,,, you do have a point. No sense asking to become a target if you don't have to...

take care,
nancy

I was looking for data on the Introspection Rundown (which I believe will be Tom Cruises next step on the bridge to insanity) and I found this:


From 1976 edition of Technical Volume I, page 280:

"Death, insanity, aberration, or merely a slavish obedience can
be efficiently effected by the use of Black Dianetics. Further,
adequate laws do not exist at this time to bar the use of these
techniques. The law provides that only the individual so wronged
can make complaint or swear out a warrant for offenders using
these techniques."


"A person on whom Black Dianetics has been employed seldom
retains the sanity or will to make a complaint, or does not know
he has been victimized. In addition, persons claiming such offenses
against their persons are commonly catalogued by doctors as
suffering from delusion. Thus the employer of Black Dianetics can
escape unpunished under existing legal procedures."
-- L. Ron Hubbard, circa September 1952

I was thinking about Tom Cruises psychotic behaviour which reminded me of the Introspection Rundown, and remembered rumors I heard that Type III people were taken to Marshall Golblatts house for "babywatches".

Here is some of the data I found. There is a ton of stuff on ARS about him...this is just disgusting stuff, I put it on this thread because it explains alot about the other stories here.

Ladybird

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: Warrior
Date: 1 Nov 2003 11:09:25 -0800

Subject: Re: any "wins" from Introspection Rundown?




>In article <vq7pm2jashb...@corp.supernews­.com>,
>Jeff Jacobsen asked:

>>Has anyone seen any "wins" written up from someone who has
>>gone through the Introspection Rundown?
In article <bo0u7101...@drn.newsguy.com>, ladayla says...


>No. The R/D people that I have talked to have little recall of being
>locked up. What happens is they get doped up until they can be
>escorted to the airport and taken home. They mostly are fucked up.
From







>>It worked then, DM, and you're planning the same thing for the Lisa McPherson
>>indictments. It's obvious from Rinder's statements about how "this should
>>never have happened at the Fort Harrison..." I had to laugh at that statement.
>>He sure is right about that! It should have happened at Marshall Goldblatt's
>>house in Topanga Canyon, where all the other really hot Type 3 isolation
>>watches happen, like Cat Morrow's, because`there they can scream as loud as
>>they want to an no one can hear them, and no matter how much they harm
>>themselves -- even if they die -- no one outside of scientology ever finds out
>>about it.






Cat Morrow is someone Stacy and I (and others) know about. I first met
her about 20 years ago when she was Guardian Office staff in PAC/GLA.
Her husband's name was Jim Morrow. If you do an internet search for Cat's
name, it will turn up. On the FACTNet site I believe her name is misspelled
"Morro".

Marshall Goldblatt is a Scieno whose home reportedly has been used for
holding members Scientology calls "Type III PTS". It is at a somewhat remote
location, so it is perfect for holding people who are screaming because no
one would be likely to hear them.


When my ex-wife was put in isolation it was at a remote location. All she
could tell me was that it was somewhere in the woods. She doesn't even
know where she was held. Besides, she was so drugged up that she believes
an alien came into her room and implanted a tracking device in her thigh.


Black Dianetics in action...


Warrior - Sunshine disinfects

Ain't the tech grand!

I did think the "glee" that Tom cruz was demonstrated reminded me of how Sam was when he came back from LA that last time. It made the hairs stand up on the back of myneck. He's cracking up.
}

Are you talking about Tom Cruise on the Oprah Winfrey show? He appeared to be clowning for the camera to show how excited he was about his new flick coming out. In short, he was selling tickets. Either you like him, are happy for him, think he is a good actor, and want to see his flick. Or you think he is an absolute crazy man and a total moron, and you want to see what sort of movie a nut like that would make.

Either way, it costs 8 bux to get in for an evening performance, at least in my area.

For me, the Oprah show is irrelevant. My teenaged son who likes movies with spectacular special effects will not let me get by with waiting until it is out on video.



Pete