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 Post subject: The cult is trying to get me fired
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:08 pm 
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The Church of Scientology, through their lackey Joel Phillips, are sending letters and calling the top management and senior directors (including the board) of the international company I am employed by.

This is the letter they are sending:
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Religious Freedom Watch
Defending Religious Rights


August 18, 2005

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Dear XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX,

Religious Freedom Watch investigates and exposes individuals who breed intolerance of religion an incite acts of hatred against Churches and their parishioners. For that purpose, we bring to your attention Andreas Heldal-Lund who claims to be employed by your company as the Operations and IT Director [...].

Mr. Heldal-Lund is one of Europe's leading anti-religious extremists. He is a core member of Norway's Heathen Society, a radical organization dedicated to the destruction of all religion. In 1995 he was arrested for conducting a hate march against the Lutheran Church at their anniversary celebration.

Heldal-Lund's activities quickly spread from attacking the Christian Church to attacking the Church of Scientology. As part of this ideological hate agenda, he wilfully violate the copyright law and may have conspired with others to do so.

In late 1996 he joined with a group of copyright anarchists in posting on the Internet copies of Church of Scientology intellectual properties that had been stolen from the Church in the past. When some of these copyright infringers were sued successfully by the copyright holders, Heldal-Lund and his associates embarked on an anti-religious hate campaign utilizing Internet newsgroups, websites and the press, that continues to this day.

One result of this campaign has been an increase in acts of harassment and violence perpetrated against Scientologists. Scientology churches have been vandalized and individual Scientologists have been harassed, physically attacked and threatened with death.

Heldal-Lund maintains a website that encourages violent actions against the Church, hosts death threats against its members and even recommendations of specific means by which they should be killed. Among the extremists he associates with daily are Dutch copyright anarchist Zenon Panoussis, and Arnaldo Lerma of Arlington, Virginia, who has close ties to both the Utopian Anarchist Party (UAP), an American anti-government militia group, and an anti-Semic movement led by American Willis Carto. this collection of hatemongers and copyright infringers present themselves as noble crusaders for "free speech" - until you scratch the surface and discover that their true "cause" is wiping out all religions and their primary method is harassing and intimidating parishioners and ministers until they fear for their safety.

As a particular example, Andreas Heldal-Lund is a close associate and defender of Keith Henson, an explosive expert who was convicted in California of a hate crime for making terrorist threat against the Church of Scientology and its members, in addition to being found liable for copyright infringement in an earlier suit. In a vain effort to avoid sentencing, Henson fled to Canada and applied for asylum. In response to his application, Canada's Department of Justice found that Henson's crime in the U.S.A. falls under that country's Anti-Terrorist Act, stating: "...The threat to blow up the Church of Scientology and to kill the organization may be seen as a serious threat to cause death, bodily harm, and a risk to health or safety. property damage and/or a serious interference with an essential service so as to constitute terrorist activity."

Heldal-Lund, though, is a stanch supporter of this hate criminal. In fact, he recently wrote to the Canadian authorities introducing himself as an employee of your company and recommending Henson as a "responsible, public minded and productive citizen."

[W]e have no doubt that you understand and appreciate the importance of copyright protection. We know you would not knowingly place the security of your client's intellectual properties in the hands of a copyright anarchist. Therefore, we present you with this information so that you may be aware of this situation and take whatever you feel is appropriate action to protect your clients and shareholders.

Further information and documentation of the activities of Andreas Heldal-Lund is available on our website at www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html. You are also welcome to contact me at the enclosed address or by email at webmaster@religiousfreedomwatch.org.

Sincerely,
RELIGIOUS FREEDOM WATCH

(sign)

Joel Phillips
Publisher


P.O. Box 50744 Pasadena, California 91105 U.S.A.

The letter is of course filled with lies, but what's new?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:21 pm 
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So what did your company have to say? I find it interesting that CoS has found another front to discredit people.

I love how they say that there are pages on the site the describe how Scientologists should be killed. That's the most outrageous thing I've ever read. If they read the site they'll see the exact opposite.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:43 pm 
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Andreas,
This was tried on me when I worked for Navy Pier in Chicago as Security/First Aid Responder.

Someone called the Director of Security and 'let it slip' that I was under investigation for child molestation. The Director of Security told them that he was a retired police officer and wanted to know they name and badge number. At this point the caller hung up. Bill told me years later that he laughed at the whole idea.

This is nothing new for this fun happy good-time loving cult. Remember old LRH told em to make it rough all the way.

I do hope your employeer filed this where it really belongs, in the circular filing cabinet (the trash bin)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:49 pm 
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Andreas,
I would like to say that if you think this is something that your company takes seriously, we would be happy to write letters for you.
Please let us know if you would like for us to do this.
Kathy


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 Post subject: "The devil is a liar" CS Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:59 pm 
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Quote: $cientology says: Arnaldo Lerma of Arlington, Virginia, who has close ties to both the Utopian Anarchist Party (UAP),

FACTS: I was picketing scientology with sign saying NO OTs There..
and a fellow walked up to me and said he would like to picket, I always bring extra signs, so I handed him one, little did i know that at the time camera's clicked inside Scientology in DC... the first time I heard of the name of the guy I'd handed the picket sign to was on Scientology's BIGOT watch website... I'd never known him, never emailed him, never met him, never corresponded, never spoke to him on the telephone, and I've never seen him since.. (This is a close association? - no, this is LIE)


$cientology says: an American anti-government militia group..
I have NO idea... The Perot Movement? no idea...wait...I know, in the state of VIRGINIA, every able bodied citizen between the ages of 21 and 45 IS, by The Commonwealth of the State of Virginia's Constitution, a member of the Virginia State Militia... and yes I guess I knew LOTS of those guys... we called ourselves The Perot Movement.. and later The Arlington Volunteers,however, because of the age requirements in the Virginia Constitution, I am no longer a member of the Virginia State Militia.. ( note, same pattern of artifice as the the above )

$Scientology says: and an anti-Semic movement led by American Willis Carto. - Scientology was in bed with Liberty lobby, for a DECADE and used Willis Carto and the Spotlight to publish their discovery from the IRS cases . I used to subscribe to the spotlight, and read the Scientology articles about the IRS, written by Scientology.. and once gave the $15 ( as did about 15000 OTHER subnscribers, to be able to vote on which issues Liberty lobby pursued, at the time, the intent of that 15$ was make sure it did not turn anti-semetic.. and pursued Jeffersonian populast causes as its funding founder, Thomas Edison intended. For paying $15, you were made a member of the "board of policy"... This was described as "As way to get a little extra money" out of the 350,000 subscribers to the spotlight. When Scientology turned on Liberty Lobby.. having infiltrated it, and having achieved having Scientologist Tom Marcellus move up for YEARS, to become Willis Carto's right hand man. *I* Investigated...the results, including many copies of

Official OSA letterhead to Liberty Lobby and Willis Carto,

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has been webbed in great detail HERE:

SCIENTOLOGY had a TWENTY YEAR CLOSE ASSOCIATION..

PLEASE READ:
Scientology's Love-Hate Relationship
with the "SPOTLIGHT," Willis Carto & the "Institute for Historical Review"


http://www.lermanet.com/cisar/carto/index.htm



I had a newspaper subscription, and I investigated and documented Scientology's close association.

$cientology sayeth: wiping out all religions and their primary method is harassing and intimidating parishioners and ministers until they fear for their safety.

If carrying a picket sign scares Scientologists, perhaps some psychiatric counseling might alleviate that irrational ( and staged ) fear, but I guess this is more proof that Scientology is nothing more than a fraud. As is the contents of the Letter from Joel Phllips

As far as my own religious beliefs go, here is what I believe

http://www.lermanet.com/communion/

They applied pressure to the Lexus dealership that Bob Minton had a partnership holding in, to force them to the buy him out...

During litigation, Lawrence wollershiem told me that it was typical, for all the partners in a big firm, to get letters from scientology saying what bad person the person they were representing in the lawsuit agianst scientology was.

Bob minton's previous partner in the Nigerian junk bond buy back was targeted by Scientology. The hotel maitre'd was paid $50,000 to copy ever piece of paper in this guys office, whichw as in the hotel.
Scientology later sent a copy to inland revenue

A bond buy back, which had been approved and set to go, was cancelled... by nigerian senate finance committee.. Scientology
spends whatever it takes to achieve silence and bankruptcy of its enemies.. AND their supporters.

Lawrence Wollershiem got included in one of his court cases, a judicial finding, that stated that "Scientology interefered in his business"

I used to do all the amplifier, electronic type repairs for the largest music store in arlington county.. Allstar Music.. One day the owner, whom Id known for a long time, and was in music for his life
told me "2 guys from florida offerred me way more than the business was worth, it was an offer I could not refuse" The store sat vacant for many months and ended up an ice cream parlor...???
They paid him to sign a non-compete and to not engage in the music business... This guy was my best client... this made it difficult to make a living...considering my back is so screwed up. Akalyzing Spondoylisis (spelled wrong) ( narrowing of the spinal channel )..

Man I could go on for a while.... read the terroristic harrassments that those who dare try to exercise thier first amendment rights must endure by Scientology's pattern of extortionate conduct in quest for silence.

http://www.lermanet.com/persecution/

Please keep me advised, and this is WHY I make the recammendations I do on my HOW TO GET INVOLVED PAGE

http://www.lermanet.com/getinvolved.htm

which links to my
PREPARE YOUR PERIMITER page HERE

http://www.lermanet.com/cos/perimiter.htm


Also see

http://www.lermanet.com/missive.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/zinger.htm


I swear The forgoing is true and accurate.
Sincerely

Arnaldo Lerma
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON
Questions?
Call 703 241 1498

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:15 pm 
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Lerma, quick question:

How the hell do you type so much so quickly? My wrists would kill me if I wrote as much in my posts as you do.

I find all this quite fascinating though (and scary) that a group would go to such bizarre lengths to discredit someone just for not believing what they do. But then again we see it in politics all the time. But this is a so-called "religion" doing this. Just makes no sense.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:15 pm 
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Dear Board Members and Executives,

The recent accusations against Andreas Heldal-Lund are completely without merit.

I have read every thread on the Operation Clambake Message Board (OCMB), unofficially monitoring the entire message board for seven years, scolding people who even make jokes about violence, and they back off immediately. The people who outright advocate violence or vandalism have been harshly criticized immediately and repeatedly by regular critics and they always stop in embarassment or exhaustion. I challenge CoS to find a single instance on this board when someone has advocated violence and found silence or acceptance. Always the violence-advocate finds a hailstorm of criticism.

Another regular poster, nicknamed Merlin, officially moderates one area called "Opinions and Debates - Moderated." This area goes beyond stopping talk of violence; In this area people are obliged to be more considerate and abstain from personal attacks. Many posters have found OCMB to be far more civil than other message boards.

The OCMB has also deplored vandalism against any building. I have even cautioned against leaving notices taped against the organizations's door, calling it trespassing. The board overall encourages legal picketing, free speech, and nothing illegal.

The Operation Clambake Message Board is open to all in support of free speech. Several controversial posters do speak here, and there is lively and open debate. Andreas is not "associating" as some kind of pal on the Message Board; his posts are rare, short and generally stick to the facts. The message board is its own imperfect but self-policing community; it is not "run" by Andreas.

The copyrighted materials are fair use quotes, and Andreas has challenged CoS to oppose him in court. Knowing they would lose, they have always declined.

The overall site www.xenu.net has provided useful information and a forum to many people like myself, whose family was torn apart by Scientology, and Andreas has run it with calmness, fairness and intelligence.

Sincerely,

Don Carlo
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:26 pm 
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I wish they would send a letter to my employer. They would laugh pretty hard. They love my site.

Hey Andreas- What does your company think of all this. Do they know about your site? Also, what's this all about, just curious-

"In 1995 he was arrested for conducting a hate march against the Lutheran Church at their anniversary celebration. "


STOP SCIENTOLOGY!
http://www.stopscientology.com


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:30 pm 
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Andreas,

The scientologists continuously besmirch people like you, arnie, traci etc... Clearly, they'll stoop to the lowest imaginable levels and lie their assess off to advance their goals.

If it would be helpful for any of us to speak up on your behalf and refute the allegations of the scientologists who wrote your company please let us know.


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 Post subject: re how fast I type
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:40 pm 
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Im a three fingered typist, and make lots of errors... but figure the typos a re rarely worth time correcting, and because I haven't had to make up a single fact in TEN years fighting scientology, and becuase i've been explaining these things over and over and over again on the net for ten years, and 40 hours of radio shows, it just rolls off my fingers, I dont have think about what Im saying, just where the next key is. ANd I cant type in the dark.

Regards

arnie lerma


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Oh, and regarding "copyright terrorist"

here is US Federal Judge Leonie Brinkema:

29 November 1995 - Memorandum Opinion [ Full Text ]- Judge Leonie Brinkema

"the Court is now convinced that the primary motivation of RTC in suing Lerma, DGS and The Post is to stifle criticism of Scientology in general and to harass its critics. "

Emphasis MINE
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If the Borg were to breed with the Ferengi you'd get Scientology!

The only real product of Scientology is More Scientologists
That is the etiology of cancer.

The only thing that works in scientology are its lawyers

The internet is the Liberty Tree
http://www.lermanet.com/faqs.html
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientology/alt ... ttings.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews ... rd-666.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews ... 040383.htm
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What do we get from getting people out of scientology?
We create an individual who has become a Houdini of
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People who can DE-program, People who can spring mental
traps..

We create, by freeing someone of scientology, a being
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:13 am 
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Same old dirty tricks! See step 2 in http://www.fairgamed.org/philscot.htm The purpose, if not obvious to most here, is:

1) destroy one's income so they can't fight back

2) put pressure on their targets
to have them SHUT UP

3) put pressure on the target's peers, employers, and families so they will advise target to back down and SHUT UP

4) inflict pscyho-terrorism to make SPs and whistleblowers go nuts

They did this to me in Michigan and in Florida in the mid 90s

They did this to Dr. Steve Kent at his University in Canada.

They've done this to many, and with their intense programming to Black PR and Dead Agent their perceived enemies, they'll continue.

SAVE this letter Andreas. At least it's not anonymous so you know who
(the thugs) your dealing with. It's creepier when they sign them
"those concern" no names, titles, or addresses to respond to or challange.

Best of luck to you,

Tom

P.S. Good website Fred Durks! :)


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I feel no particular need to repeatedly publicly defend myself against every false claim the cult and others make up against me. Once in a while I will however give a little summary reply. All are welcome to ask me directly if there are subjects they want more information on. But I will probably bore you.

Here's a little repetition:

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Religious Freedom Watch investigates and exposes individuals who breed intolerance of religion an incite acts of hatred against Churches and their parishioners. For that purpose, we bring to


Religious Freedom Watch is a proven front of the Cult of Scientology.

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your attention Andreas Heldal-Lund who claims to be employed by your company as the Operations and IT Director [...].


Error. You should know that this is not my position. What kind of "tech" is this if your intelligence is that bad?

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Mr. Heldal-Lund is one of Europe's leading anti-religious extremists. He is a core member of Norway's Heathen Society, a


False. A supporting member, yes.

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radical organization dedicated to the destruction of all religion. In 1995 he was arrested for conducting a hate march


False. It promotes freedom of and from religion. It is an organization for free thought, which includes freedom to be critical to religions and acts by religious groups where due. Never have they promoted or had as a goal to destruct religions. Total fantasy.

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against the Lutheran Church at their anniversary celebration.


The state church celebrated 1000 years in Norway in 1995. We made a small picket to mark that Christianity was introduced with swords 1000 years ago. People who refused to convert then were tortured in the worst way. The state only celebrated the event by remembering the nice stuff, we thought that was bad taste. The peaceful picket stopped immediately when the police came and told us to stop. We voluntarily left and later got a small fine for picketing without a permit.

I have never been arrested in my life, never been in a prison or police cell, never even had handcuffs on or gotten a speeding ticket. And I've been driving a lot in my life, even coast to coast US.

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Heldal-Lund's activities quickly spread from attacking the Christian Church to attacking the Church of Scientology. As part


No relation. The Church of Scientology was convicted for fraud by High Court in Norway in 1996, that's the only motivation and reason that led me to become a critic. I do stand up for what I believe is right, but it is always in public and I pay the price myself.

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of this ideological hate agenda,


Hate is a destructive emotion, I strive to be constructive. None of my criticism against the Church of Scientology is based on emotion.

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he wilfully violate the copyright law and may have conspired with others to do so.


False. I have never been convicted of any wrong-doing in my life. I have not even been sued by anyone, ever.

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In late 19[9]6 he joined with a group of copyright anarchists in posting on the Internet copies of Church of Scientology


False. I joined nobody, I have always been 100% responsible myself for everything I have done. I do however talk to a lot of people, I listen and I learn. That does not mean I "join them".

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intellectual properties that had been stolen from the Church in the past. When some of these copyright infringers were sued

I have dared the cult to prove I have broken any laws for 9 years now. Nothing has materialized yet.

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successfully by the copyright holders, Heldal-Lund and his associates embarked on an anti-religious hate campaign utilizing Internet newsgroups, websites and the press, that continues to this day.


My victory and your loss: www.xenu.net

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One result of this campaign has been an increase in acts of harassment and violence perpetrated against Scientologists.


Undocumented claim that it has increased and that any of it can in any way be linked to the criticism I offer. I am a publicly known pacifist (refused military service at eighteen) and have never been in a fight in my life, physically hurt or threatened anybody with any form of violence.

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Scientology churches have been vandalized and individual Scientologists have been harassed, physically attacked and threatened with death.


Another undocumented claim.

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Heldal-Lund maintains a website that encourages violent actions against the Church, hosts death threats against its members and even recommendations of specific means by which they should be killed.


All false accusations and I look forward to see you in court!

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Among the extremists he associates with daily are Dutch copyright anarchist Zenon Panoussis, and Arnaldo Lerma of


False.

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Arlington, Virginia, who has close ties to both the Utopian Anarchist Party (UAP), an American anti-government militia group, and an anti-Semic movement led by American Willis Carto. this collection of hatemongers and copyright infringers present themselves as noble crusaders for "free speech" - until you scratch the surface and discover that their true "cause" is wiping out all religions and their primary method is harassing and intimidating parishioners and ministers until they fear for their safety.


Arnie Lerma doesn't need me to defend himself, anybody with some basic knowledge on the subject know this is false.

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As a particular example, Andreas Heldal-Lund is a close associate and defender of Keith Henson, an explosive expert who was convicted in California of a hate crime for making terrorist threat against the Church of Scientology and its members, in addition to being found liable for copyright infringement in an earlier suit. In a vain effort to avoid sentencing, Henson fled to Canada and applied for asylum. In response to his application, Canada's Department of Justice found that Henson's crime in the U.S.A. falls under that country's Anti-Terrorist Act, stating: "...The threat to blow up the Church of Scientology and to kill the organization may be seen as a serious threat to cause death, bodily harm, and a risk to health or safety. property damage and/or a serious interference with an essential service so as to constitute terrorist activity."


Keith Henson can defend himself too.

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Heldal-Lund, though, is a stanch supporter of this hate criminal. In fact, he recently wrote to the Canadian authorities introducing himself as an employee of your company and recommending Henson as a "responsible, public minded and productive citizen."


The last part is a quote and as that such real.

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[W]e have no doubt that you understand and appreciate the importance of copyright protection. We know you would not knowingly place the security of your client's intellectual properties in the hands of a copyright anarchist. Therefore, we present you with this information so that you may be aware of this situation and take whatever you feel is appropriate action to protect your clients and shareholders.


A threat?

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Further information and documentation of the activities of Andreas Heldal-Lund is available on our website at www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html. You are also welcome to contact me at the enclosed address or by email at webmaster@religiousfreedomwatch.org.


And they don't see that all are puzzled that they have no referring external links or even documentation? A search on Google and you get 7,040 hits on "andreas heldal-lund" where Operation Clambake is link # 1 and my personal page # 3. They refer to both, but dare not link to either. Luckily people know how to search. :)

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Joel Phillips
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Oh, it's duly noted!

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My goodness Andreas, What on earth have you done to make those benign self-proclaimed powerful Beings to resort to such a low status of lying and slandering?

Perhaps we can do something similar, e.g. by exposing the character of David Miscavige?

My thoughts are with you! :roll:


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Andreas- It seems to me that you have the legal right to sue them for trying to tarnish your character with lies. I know a lot of law. I don't see why you wouldn't win. Same with most of the people on the religous freedom watch.

This is just an observation. Maybe this has already been covered before.


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 Post subject: The cult is trying to get me fired
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Andreas, your employers shall see through this group that hates and takes advantage of it's believers to do dastardly deeds like this. This happens because they have to hide the cowardly face of deception that becomes them. Pity on them.


Joel Phillips is acting on behalf of scientology.

This clay demo is for scientology, thanks to L Ron Hubbard:

CLAY DEMO: How the fact that a criminal accuses others of doing things which he himself is doing can be used in investigating an attacker.

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