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curious_georgette



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All--
I've been lurking for quite some time and I finally have to speak out...could somebody please explain to me how this is legal? I read Arnie's situation earlier and was stunned but this...this is something else. Is it because challenging them costs time and money? Or is there actually no legal recourse?

Thanks!!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andreas, I would gladly write a letter to your employer. My employer and everyone at my workplace know all about $cientology now. Tactics like phone calls to Security and letters to employers and neighbors don’t work anymore – it has stalker mentality. Just a few months ago, there were very few references to Scientology in the media and anything in the media would have made it on this board. After the Tom Cruise remarks, the media has had an open field day on $cientology. There’s so many critical articles out there right now and humorous websites exposing Xenu and L. Ron Hubbard (who was not a physicist or war hero). Operation Clambake has made a big difference and word has gotten out. I liked your last post: My victory and your loss: www.xenu.net

Thank you Andreas!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:32 am    Post subject: re stunned Reply with quote

There are Lawyers who figure out what scientology is

At this time it is difficult to find one who knows what scientology is AND is willing to litigate them pro-bono...

Scientology will use every trick in the book and some the judges will have never seen before to use the legal system to run up such astronomical costs that Lawrence Wollershiem told me, yes, you can beat Scientology in court, but yould better have a MILLION DOLLARS...

Factnet had 2 million in combined litigation insurance and directors liability as soon as Scientology found that out after raiding me, they then raided FACTNet and started ANOTHER case in colorado...

Splitting the 2 million we thought we had to finish a case.

During mycase one attorney quipped that "I havent seen litigation like this other than tobacco litigation"


LINK to above

America's constitution was drafted of the people, for the people, by the people...

What we have today is a system OF THE MONEY, BY THE MONEY and FOR THE MONEY...

And scientology, like all ponzi games, makes a lot of money...for a while..

till it all comes crashing down.

The challenge is staying alive long enough to figure out how the scam operates - that has occurred.. and then staying alive and listened to long enough to educate enough people... The purpose of the RFW pages is so you will not listen to me, they cannot confront or respond to the materials on Lermanet.com or XENU.NET, so they shoot the attacker.

The attack upon Andreas, is nothing more than a desperate effort of Scientology to achieve what pitbul, uMike, fluffy and some others are failing to achieve...SILENCE.

At the instant one tries to do fundraising, even for postage, the uMikes, Pitbul's etc go nuts.. trashing threads so the meat scrolls off. Same happens when one tries to explain one on one to somebody like you, I'd love to have articulate conversations and TEACH what I have learned, to people who are younger and have more energy than I do, without a bunch of goebbelsque catcallers yelling from the back row.

see Apology by Gary Weber http://www.lermanet.com/garyweber/
for doing just that at a VFW meeting



Alt religion scientology has its own pile of spammers and disinformation artists..

The fluffy thang is posting on many chat boards... always blunting the interest and making nothing of it, though the last time I pointed this out in earnest, she moved a few steps on the
TEN STEPS OUT OF SCIENTOLOGY..
and there a lot of other 'anon' posters busy across multiple message boards.. layers of them... all at different places on those TEN STEPS including the FREEZONERS....all to contain folks. to PREVENT them from learning enough to get so pissed off that they decide.. (just as I did, after a visit from DC Org's OSA on Nov 4th 1994) read that first article HERE



that.. Something must be done about it.

This is America, Isn't it? < thats how I closed the first 6 letters I mailed out, one went to wash post and resulted in the article above, Rich leiby knew then, things I did not learn for YEARS..

Sincerely

Arnie Lerma
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON
Ex-Financial Manager for what is now called
Scientology Bridge Publications

Tonights Lesson:
http://www.lermanet.com/journalistbriefing.htm

November-December 1993 Issue of Quill Magazine Scientology from the Inside Out, "I also trained other Scientology PRs on how to handle the media, using material from Hubbard. This included how to respond to a question without answering, how to divert the issue, how to tell "an acceptable truth," how to stall for time, how to assume various emotional states to control another, how to "attack the attacker," how to take control of a conversation, how to introvert a person and how to "get the message across" (especially in an age of sound bites), how to help Scientology attorneys write inflammatory legal papers so the PR could then safely use the abusive phrases, and how to appear to be a religion."

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andreas, I wish you all the best in this latest "fair game' ATTACK by scientology.

With all the documentation you have provided to so many of us here on your Clambake site, and with your amazing patience, civility and competence I am sure your employer will take a good long look at scientology before they will believe one word of black PR about you.

Thank you for all you do!

Love, Ladybird
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:06 am    Post subject: My Two Cents....Please use if you'd like to..... Reply with quote

Dear ________________

Recently it has come to my attention that Mr. Joel Phillips wrote you a letter regarding
Andreas Heldal-Lund. I would like to inform you of a few things you may not know.

1. Joel Phillips used to work for me, when I was in the Church of Scientology. The Vice President of Scientology, Janet Weiland, had asked me to run a group that would basically “handle� what they call “Black PR�, which is bad words said about Scientology, or L. Ron Hubbard. At the time I was just as in the dark as Mr. Phillips, and as a result, believed Scientology was all good, and these critics were our enemies. I had NO idea that there was actually TONS of INFORMATION that I didn't know, that my own "Church" had lied to me about, and that these very critics were merely trying to help people find out the truth this insidious organization was so desperately hiding.

2. I was briefly the Executive Director for the Scientology Parishioners League, with Joel Phillips as my junior, and during this time, I actually met Andreas on-line, and he helped me greatly. He never told me anything negative about Scientology, in fact, he’s been nothing but a total gentleman in the years that I have had the pleasure of knowing him.

3. I had been doing my own “waking up� as I call it from Scientology, and meeting Andreas was sort of the final straw. Scientology had convinced me he was ‘The Devil�, yet he was one of the kinder, and smarter people I’d met in some time.

4. From a few things, one of which was the help from Andreas, I woke up, and decided I had to leave Scientology, as I was well aware of some of the borderline illegal things they had done, all under the guise of ‘religion’. At that time, I called Joel Phillips to tell him I was leaving, I wished him well, and he was in charge.

5. Some months after I left, I began to run into Joel Phillips. I was surprised to find him always trying to stop me from picketing, speaking out, helping families get their kids out of Scientology. The depth of his own mind control was amazing to me to see, now that I’m out, and still is to this day.

6. Since that time, Joel Phillips has now put up a Web site with pages and pages of lies about me, and many other critics of Scientology. Let me please make this clear to you: I’m positive Joel Phillips has NEVER read one word on Andreas’ site, and if he would read the information, he too would wake up, and leave.
(It is a “High Crime� in Scientology to read things such as Andreas’ site, which
Merely have facts written that Scientology fears their public will learn. They should fear it! If people ~did~ know the real truth, they too would leave).

7. Also, I’m quite sure Joel Phillips is just a name being used, a front man so-to-speak, so the Church of Scientology doesn’t look SO bad, writing such libelous things about so many people.


Lastly, Andreas has been a tremendous help to me in the 5 years that I have been out of Scientology. Scientology proposes to be many high and mighty things, most of which they are not. They are their own worst enemies, which I told them when I was "in". Andreas, on the other hand, actually demonstrates continuously (and quite humbly) all that they wish they were, and are not

8. All of this letter and the slamming of Andreas is based on a Policy L. Ron Hubbard Wrote, called “Fair Game�, which states:

“If people speak out against the Church of Scientology (or Hubbard himself),
A Scientologist can “Lie, Steal, Cheat, Destroy them utterly, with absolutely no consequences�.

9. Scientologists are shown a “Cancellation� policy which states this “Fair Game�
Policy was cancelled. I even stood up in Court, insisting it had been Cancelled.
I was positive it had been, however Scientology’s continuous Fair Game actions, such as Joel Phillips ridiculous letter to you all, proves the organization known as
The Church of Scientology still use Fair Game on a daily basis.

If you need any more information from me to help you understand this insidious organization and why they NEED to try to continuously stop any and all critics, or just people writing and telling facts they need to hide, including trying to stamp out Andreas, please let me know.

Andreas is my friend, and has helped literally thousands of people.

My best to you,

Tory Christman
X-Scientologist after 30 years “in�
Free at LAST!
Burbank, CA
Magoo44@charter.net
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tori,
When I read the cancellation policy for fair game, I got the impression that only the words "Fair Game" were cancelled?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HCOPL 21 Oct 68
CANCELLATION OF FAIR GAME


"Fair Game may not appear on any
Ethics Order. It causes bad public relations.

This PL does not cancel any treatment or
handling of an SP."

L. Ron Hubbard
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andreas,

I don't know what the libel laws are like in your country or intenationally, but they have got to be better than the ones in the U.S.

It would apear that you have one heck of a libel suit here. Unless, like the U.S., your country has a "public figure" exception clause.

Cynthia Kisser's U.S. libel suit against COS was dismissed because it was claimed she was a "public figure" which meant she was "fair game" for slander.She was, at the time, the executive director of the CULT AWARENESS NETWORDK and has been on Nightline and some other tv programs.

Why don't you check out the feasibility of pursing a lawsuit for libel with an attorney in your country? COS is long past due for a kick in its libelous butt.

You've communicated with Ken Dandar, Florida lawyer for the Lisa wrongful death suit about the "Fat Man", so you could ask him what he thinks.

Good Luck,

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:34 pm    Post subject: re dandar Reply with quote

Sorry tigger,

A US lawyer has no standing in Norway

and personally I wouldnt ask Dandar to fix a parking ticket


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry this is so long, but it is a compilation of very important data that every one should read.

Ladybird



**************************­******************************­***************
THE SCIENTOLOGY FAIR GAME TIMELINE
W. C. Barwell 7-6-04
Version II
******************************­******************************­***************


1951


Introduction to Scientology Ethics first published


"HIGH CRIMES (SUPPRESSIVE ACTS)
A SUPPRESSIVE PERSON or GROUP is one that actively
seeks to damage Scientology or a Scientologist by
Suppressive Acts."
(Capitols in original)
[Introduces the concept of SP (Suppressive Persons) and actions
of SPs as "High Crimes". Prelude to fair game as a policy
to deal with "Suppressive Persons or Groups" and
the "Conditions, which include "enemy", and "treason".]
- WCB


******************************­******************************­****************


1955


Manual of Dissemination of Materials
Collected from writings of Hubbard in Ability Magazine


"The DEFENSE of anything is untenable. The only way to defend
anything is to ATTACK, and if you forget that you will lose
every battle that you engage in, whether it is in terms of
personal conversation, public debate, or a court of law.
NEVER BE INTERESTED IN CHARGES. Do yourself, much
MORE CHARGINGS and you will WIN.
(Capitols in original)


"Should you ever be arrested for practicing Scientology,
treating people, make very sure long before the time comes that
you have never used drugs, or surgery, and have never prescribed
a diet, or vitamins, and when the times might come, make very
sure that you imediately and instantly, with two or three hours
after your receipt of that warrant, have served on the signer
of that warrant, a personal civil suit for $100,000.00 in
damages for causing a Man of God going about his business
in his proper professionand for bring about embarressing
publicity and molestation."


---------------


THE BRAIN WASHING MANUAL
A book written by Hubbard and published anonymously
as an attack on psychiatry.


[Thus by 1955 Hubbard was already playing dirty tricks.]
-WCB


http://warrior.xenu.ca/Brain-Washing-manual.html
http://warrior.xenu.ca/Brainwashing-front.jpg
http://warrior.xenu.ca/Brainwashing-back.jpg


---------------


SCIENTOLOGY OPERATIONS BULLETIN 8


"The brainwashing manual that came into our hands so mysteriously,
is being released, not to unmock psychiatry, but as a necessary
piece of information..."


******************************­******************************­**************


1959


MANUAL OF JUSTICE
(Out of copyright now)


"Investigation by outside sources"
Overt investigation of someone or something
should by an outside detective agency should
be done more often and hang the expense."


******************************­******************************­****************


1965


HCOPL 7 Mar 65 Issue 1
[Widely misdated as 1 Mar 65 but actually 7 Mar 65]


Suppressive Acts -Suppression of Scientology
and Scientologists - The Fair Game Law


"A suppressive person or group becomes fair game.
.......
The homes, property, places and abodes of people
who have been active in attempting to suppress
Scientology or scientologists are beyond all
protection of Scientology Ethics unless absolved
by later Ethics or an amnesty"
A truely suppressive person or Group has no rights
of any kind as Scientologists and actions taken
against them are not punishable under Scientology
Ethics codes."


[A webbed report on HCOPL 7 Mar 65, 23 Dec 65
and the subsequent versions and reissues,
"Scientology (R): The history of a Policy Letter -
A detailed study or the transformation of HCO PL
23 Dec '65" is webbed and is very good.]
- WCB
See http://mccalon.notlong.com


--------------


HCOPL 2 April 65
Administration Outside of Sciento,ogy


"You see, none is fair game until he
or she declares against us."
-------------


ETHICS ORDER
September 17, 1965


"Subject: suppressive Person


I. J. F. "Jack" Horner is hereby declared a suppressive person
for the reasons hereby given:
....


IV. Declared "Fair Game"


-------------


HCOPL 16 August 65
COLLECTIONS FROM SPs AND PTSs


"Civil Court action against SPs to collect monies
owed may be resorted to as they are fair game."


-------------


HCO Executive letter
AMPRINISTICS


"Treatment - They are fair game, can be sued or harassed.
...
(2) Harass these persons in any possible way.
....
(4) Tear up any meeting held and get names of
those attending and issue SP orders on them
and you'll get rid of a lot of rats."


-------------


HCOPL 23 December 65
Revised version of 7 March 65.
[Most inflammatory lines (See 7 Mar 65 above)
are dropped from this version.


Revised versions adding to list of "High Crimes"
were reissued 31 December 1979 as HCOPL 23 Dec 65R,
was itself cancelled and replaced by HCOPL 16 May 80 Issue II.
Reissued HCOPL 23 Dec 65RA (25 Aug 1988) and again
HCOPL 23 Dec 65RB (8 January 1991) and yet again as
HCOPL 7 March 65RB (4 November 2001)
See "The History of a Policy Letter etc."
See http:// macca...@notlong.com for the long and complex history
of this HCOPL.


- WCB


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1966


HCOPL 15 Feb 66
Attacks on Scientology


"(4) Start feeding lurid, blood sex crime, based
on actual evidence on the attackers to the press.
....
Don't ever submit tamely to an investigation
of us. Make it rough on the attackers all the way."


--------------


HCOPL 18 Feb 66
ATTACKS ON SCIENTOLOGY - CONTINUED
[Was a limited distribution, not a public release]


"G.2.3 - Suits against sources of libel and slander."


--------------


HCOPL 17 Feb 66
Public Investigation Section
Limited Distribution


"(3) Collect as many case histories as possible on
individuals of that group specializing on those
that can be lead to criminal prosecution by state or
world agencies."


--------------


HCO Executive letter of 5 Sept 66
Subject: How to do a NOISY investigation.


"Soon as one of those threats start you
get a Scientologist or Scientologists to
investigate noisily."


[Source - The Foster Report]


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1967


HCOPL 18 Oct 67
Penalties for Lower Conditions


"Enemy -May be deprived of property or injured or
by any Scientologist without any discipline of
the Scientologists. May be tricked, lied to,
sued or destroyed."


[See HCOPL 21 July 68 updated version of this HCOPL]
- WCB


------------------


HCOPL 18 Oct 67
POLICY AND HCOB ALTERATIONS
HIGH CRIME


"Recently, during the reoganization of WW, it came
to light in some continental orgs ECE SECS an SECs
have an (sic) occasion actually ordered that certain Pol Ltrs
and HCOBs were not to be followed.
------------------------ (Original in italics)


....
Any executive issuing such an order shall hereafter be
considered as committing a high crime..."
[Source: Foster Report]


******************************­******************************­**************


1968


HCOPL 21 July 68
Penalties for Lower Conditions
(replaced ENEMY definition of HCOPL 18 Oct 67)


"ENEMY - Suppressive Person order. May not be
communicated with by anyone except and Ethics
Officer, a Master at Arms, a Hearing Officer,
or a board or committee. May be restrained or
imprisoned. may not be protected by any rules of
the group he sought to injure as he sought to
bar fair practices for others."
[Source: Foster Report]


------------


HCOPL 21 Oct 68
CANCELLATION OF FAIR GAME


"Fair Game may not appear on any
Ethics Order. It cause bad public relations.
This P/L does not cancel any treatment or
handling of an SP."
[Source: Foster Report]


--------------------------


29 November 1968
CODE OF REFORM


"1. Cancellation of discconnection as a relief to those suffering
from familialsuppression.


2. Cancellation of security checking as a form of confession.


3. Prohibition of any confessional materials being written down.


4. Cancellation of declaring people Fair Game.


If you yourself have observed any further aspect of this Church's
activities that you feel calls for reform, please let us know.
29 November 1968


THE ACADEMY OF SCIENTOLOGY
THE HUBBARD GUIDANCE CENTRE"


[This Code of Reform is not signed by Hubbard but by seven
members of the "Board of Directors". But see HCOPL 7 Mar 69.]
-WCB


[Source: Dumbleton - Powles report, 3 February 1969]


----------------


******************************­******************************­*************


1969


3 February 1969
Dumbelton-Powles Report
New Zealand


This was a report of an ibvestigation into Scientology in
New Zealand. It concentrated on Scientology disconnection
policies, and focused on Scientology in New Zealand rather
than general Scientology activities world wide.


http://www.xenu.net/archives/audit/nz-pref.html


----------------


HCOPL 16 Feb 69 Issue II
CONFIDENTIAL
BATTLE TACTICS


"One cuts off enemy communications, funds, connections.
He deprives the enemy of political advantages, comnnections and
power. He takes over enemy territory. He raids and harasses.
All on a thought plane -Press-Public opinon, governments, etc.


Seeing it as a battle, one can apply battle tactics to
thought actions."


..............................­..........


HCOPL 16 Feb 69 Issue IV


CONFIDENTIAL


TARGETS, DEFENSE


"The Vital targets on which we must invest most
of our time are:
...


T1. Depopularizing the enemy to the point of total obliteration.


T2. taking over the control or allegience of the heads or proprieters
of all news media."


----------


HCOPL 7 Mar 69
[Name unknown at this time. I have not seen the whole HCOPL,
just excerpts from the Dumbleton-Powles report of 3 February
1969, which see. - WCB]


"The policy which cancels the policy of disconnetion, cancellation
of the Fair Game law, the cancellation of security checks, and
no records allowed on confessional materials, plus the new code
of the Scientologist. have accomplished every reform suggested
to us. lets get the show on the road."


[Apparently this HCOPL, unlike the 29 Nov 68 "CODE OF REFORM
(which see) was signed by Hubbard.]
- WCB


HCOPL 2 Dec 69
Covert intelligence: Data Collection of December 2, 1969


"Essentially a covert operation is intended to embarress,
discredit, or overthrow or remove an actual or possible
opponent. it is a small war carried on without its true
source being disclosed."


******************************­******************************­*************


1970
Sectarian Healers and Hypnotherapy
A Study for the Committee on the Healing Arts.
By Professor Jonathan A. Lee - Ontario, Canada


Chapter 4 Scientology and Dianetics


"An incident which occured at the Toronto Organization in 1967
serves to illustrate how members are disciplined. Internal dissention
between two executives, both trained at Saint Hill. lead to one
charging the other with "high crimes against Scientology" and declaring
him a Suppressive person. Although the accused executive appealed to
Saint Hill for restitition, the appeal was rejected. A bulletin
labelled "The Fair Game Law"(issued by Hubbard) was posted on the
Toronto centre bulletin board for a few months.
It informed all Scientologists that any actions that they took that
otherwise might be offensive against Scientology standards, would
not so be considered when directed at SPs; these people were to be
regarded as "fair game" for any sort of attack.


-----------------


HCOPL 6 Oct 70 Issue III
ETHICS PENALTIES


"The Following HCOPLs are cancelled:"
HCO PL 26 Sept '67 Conditions for Scn Orgs addition to
Applying Formulas.
HCO PL 18 Oct '67 issue IV Penalties for Lower Conditions.
HCO PL 20 Oct '67 issue II Conditions Penalties New Employees
and Persons Newly on Post
HCO PL6 Oct '67 Condition of Liability"


"The motto is, "Hat don't Hit".


[Purported by some to have cancelled "Fair Game",
This cancels HCOPL 18 Oct '67, but not HCOPL 21 July '68
That displaced HCOPL 18 Oct '67. The "ENEMY - Fair Game.."
provision of HCOPL 18 Oct '67 had made for very bad PR in
England in the press at that time, even getting attention in
the Parlement. See the 1994 Hana Whitfield declaration.]
- WCB
[Source: Foster report 1971]


******************************­******************************­*************


1971


Enquiry into the Practices and Effects of Scientology
(AKA The Foster Report)


[Chapter 7 "Scientology and its Enemies" has a good selection
of HCOPLs and related materials. Widely webbed.]
- WCB


******************************­******************************­****************


1972


GO 011272 LRH
CONFIDENTIAL: Black Propaganda
"Black Propaganda is a covert communication of
false info intended to injure, impeded, or destroy the
activity or life of another person, group, or nation,
usually issued from a false or removed source from the
actual instigator."
....
Our propaganda is dirty, but it is not black
because it is true. Black Propaganda is essentially
false."


******************************­******************************­************


1973


A new edition of "Introduction to Scientology Ethics"
is issued. All mentions of Fair Game are now removed
from this edition and subsequent editions to come.


******************************­******************************­*************


1976


INTRODUTION TO SCIENTOLOGY ETHICS is reprinted.


Spring 7 (otherwise undated)
OPERATION STREET MAN


A document seized from Scientology in the 1977 FBI raids.


"PROJECT INFO
B1 has enough terminals in the field in strategic positions
to bring about the decline of Gabe Cazares as a political
candidate both locally and nationally.


4. CONDITIONAL: Based on the successful results of Channels
A & B, the possibility of an amended complaint filed against
cazares is to be looked over. It should be one in which the
City of CW is let off the hook in defense of Cazares as mayor
and directed to him as an idividual. This will tie him up with
large legal committments and deny him funds for any campaign
bid in Frebruary for Mayor."


htttp://spaink.net/cos/SecrSer­v/ops/op.htm


----------------


Operation "SPEEDY GONZALES"
3 Mar 1976


A document seized in the FBI raids of July 1977 of
Scientology offices.


"SPEEDY GONZALES"
"MAJOR TARGET


To ruin Mayor Gabriel Cazares political career by spreading a
scandal about his sex life broadly.
...
Note: THIS IS TO BE SAID TO ALL SPOKEN TO:


"DID YOU HEAR THAT THE MAYOR OF CLEARWATER--CAZARES--IS
IS HAVING AN AFFAIR WITHH LARRY GALANTIS' MOTHER...HE'S
IN (CLASS)ie:Psych 201""


[This Fair Game operation against Clearwater, Florida Mayor
Gabe Cazares was discovered in papers seized in the 1977
FBI raid on scientology.]


http://spaink.net/cos/SecrServ/ops/ops.htm


----------------------


3 Mar 1976


Data #1 Re: Mayor Cazares


A document seized in the FBI raids of July, 1977 of
Scientology offices. Concerns Clearwater Mayor Gabe Cazares


"On either 13 March or 14 March, the mayor picked up a young
woman."


http://spaink.net/cos/SecrServ/ops/op.htm


-----------------------


3 Mar 1976


RE: ALPINE, TEXAS/CAZARES


A document seized by the FBI in July, 1977 in raids on
Scientoloy offices. Regarding Clearwater Mayor Gabe Cazares.


"Feb 25, mission fired to Alpine, Texas with major target
to provide documentations usable by legal and Info of the facts
surrounding the alleged birth of Gabriel Cazares there in Jan 31,
1920 with purpose of completing a standard B1 investigation
there to provide documented facts of use."


http://spaink.net/cos/SecrServ/ops/ops.htm


------------------------------­-------


5 Mar 1976


RE: BASE


A documents seized in the FBI raids of July, 1977 of
Scientology offices. Concerns Clearwater Mayor Gabe Cazares


"He is working as well on getting 2d data on Cazares Mistress who
looks from the descrition like a perfect for us--rumored to be after
the mayor for financial consideration--mayor rumored to be devoted
to her."


http://spaink.net/cos/SecrServ/ops/op.htm


------------------


23 March 1976


ITALIAN FOG


One of two documents seize by the FBI in July, 1977 raids
on Scientoogy offices. Part II of ITALIAN FOG is dates
November 3, 1976.


"MAJOR TARGET: To discredit C W's Mayor and weaken his power in his
attacking actions at the Base.


VITAL TARGETS:
To locate a Mexican that can carry it without any negative kickbacks.


To get documentations mocked up and "planted".
....


5. When the above is done, recruit a Mexican FSM (one who
has done similar actions before ) See that the Docs are put in
proper files showing that the Mayor was married in Mexico
about 25 years ago. A Mexican girl will have to be dug up.
One that can't be located.


http://spaink.net/cos/SecrServ/ops/ops.htm


____________________________


1 April 1976
OPERATION FREAKOUT
Op Freakout Main Planning Document


This document was seized in the July 1977 FBI raid on Scientology
head quarters.


"MAJOR TARGET: To get P.C. (Paulette Cooper) incarcerated in a
mental institute or jail, or at least hit her so hard she drops
her attacks."


"I'm going to kill you basterds. I am going to bomb you.
Kissinger is a traitor. I am going to bomb him to."


[A GO document that describes how to frame Paulette Cooper for a
bomb threat, which plan was in fact carried out. There are at least
6 known Freak out documents. All are widely webbed in fascimile
form JPG) and as transcripts. Perhaps the most infamous fair game
operation from Scientology. This document lists 4 "channels",
that is, plans.
1. Call in bomb threats using somebody sounding like Cooper
to Arab Embassies.
2. Creating written bomb threats and mailing them to frame Cooper.
3. Having an agent impersonating Cooper make bomb threats at a
laundry mat so it is called in to police.
4. Having an agent calling the FBI after 3. to make sure it
is investigated.]


- WCB


http://home/snafu.de/tilman/krasel/cooper/


----------


5 April 76
Re: P.C. Operation
A GO document planning action against Paulette Cooper


This document was seized in the July, 1977 FBI raid on Scientology
headquarters.


"P.C. has been arrested before for bomb threats against the C of S.
We reinforce this backround and get her arrested."


[This document had one "channel" or plan, to hae an agent
impersonating Cooper "act crazy" at a laundry mat and make
bomb threats.]
- WCB


http://home/snafu.de/tilman/krasel/cooper


------------


13 April 1976
RE: P.C. OP FREAKOUT


This document was seized in the July, 1977 FBI raid on Scientology
offices.


"Attached is approve Op Freakout. This additional channel
should really have her put away.
...
2) Drunk takes sheet with lovelies' prints (fingerprints)
to AG 1 (agent 1) beng sure to get no prints on it.
.....
3) Write the following letter on a library typewriter and address
the envelope to Kissinger in Wash. DC on the same typewriter."


[This "Op" had one channel" or plan, to obtain Cooper's
fingerprints by ruse on a blank sheet of paper and use
that to type a bomb threat and mail it to Henry Kissinger.]
- WCB


http://home/snafu.de/tilman/krasel/cooper/


------------


ALLARD APPEAL
58 Cal. App 3d 453
Hearing Denied
July 15, 1976


"-----------------------footno­te-----------------------
(4.) The trial court gave appellant almost the
entire trail within which to produce evidence that the
fair game policy had been repealed. Appellant failed to
do so, and so the trial court thereafter permitted the
admission of Exhibit 1 into evidence.
------------------------------­--------------------------"


------------


3 Nov 76
ITALIAN FOG II


A document seized by the FBI in the July, 1977 raids on
Scientology Offices. Concerning Clearwater Mayor Gabe Cazares.


"MAJOR TARGET: To discredit CW's Mayor and weaken his power in
his attacks at base by reducing his credibility.


VITAL TARGETS: To locate a Mexican who can carry this
project out without any kickbacks. Recruit him and train him.


....


To get the documentations mocked up and "planted".
....
* NOTE: AS PART OF THE SECURITY - IF A BRIBE IS USED
DATA SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE PERSON ACCEPTING THE BRIBE
TO PINPOINT A FALSE WHO IN HIS MIND IDEALLY ONE OF THE MAYOR'S
DEADLY ENEMIES SO THAT IF TEH OPS GETS BLOWN UP TO THE PERSON
WHO WAS BRIBED THAT PERSONS WOULD GIVE DATA ON TEH PLANTED WHO
AND S. WOULD NEVER COME UP."


http://spaink.net/cos/SecrServ/ops/ops.htm


3 Nov 1976


COMPLIANCE REPORT


A document seized by the FBI in July, 1976 in a raid
on Scientology offices. Regarding Clearwater Mayor Gabe Cazares.


"Many actions have been done on this target which have brought about
a product as called for in the target. Phone dcalls, 3P letters,
spreading rumors inside his camp, contributing to disorganization
in his camp, giving data to Young on Cazares, all contrbute
to a final outcome with the headline.."YOUNG SWAMPS CAZARES
FOR CONGRESS".


http://spaink.org.co/SecrServ/ops/ops.htm


-----------------------


OPERATIONS OFFICER
[Undated, but about 1967-7.
Seized from GO in the July 1977 raid.]
WCB


"OPERATIONS OFFICER
Successful:
....
(7) When hitting a group or individual, hitting their
financial and comm lines
.....
Unsuccessful:
....
(4) Harassment"


[This and many other GO documents are widely webbed.]
-WCB
******************************­******************************­**************


1979


3 Dec 79


SENTENCING MEMORANDUM OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA


Mary Sue Hubbard et al Criminal Case No. 78-401


"Moreover, a review of the documents seized in the two Los Angeles,
California searches, which have since been unsealed by this Court,
show the incredible and sweeping nature of the criminal conduct of
the defendents and the organization which they lead. These crimes
include the infiltration and theft of documents from a number of
prominent private national and world organizations, law firms and
newspapers; the execution of smear campaigns and baseless law
suits to destroy private individuals who had attempted to exercise
their First Amendment rights to freedom of expression; the framing
of private citizens who had been critical of Scientology, including
the forging of at least one innocent person; violation of the civil
rights of prominent private figures and public officials."


[This memorandum covers many notorious actions of Scientology
including the fair gaming of Paulette Cooper, Gabe Cazares and
others.]
- WCB


******************************­******************************­***************


1980


HCOPL 22 July 80
CANCELLATION OF FAIR GAME - MORE ABOUT


" "Fair Game" was cancelled and has remained cancelled
because it was found to be misinterpreted by those
antipathetic to Scientology to authorize justice actions of
more severe nature than expulsion.


There was no reason to retain it as part of our
justice system if there was any way it coud be misinterpreted
in that way.


Justice is a much abused subject. Too many men of evil
intent have used the disguise of "justice" to forward evil and
malicious and destructive ends."


[This HCOPL was itself cancelled by HCOPL 8 Sept 83.
See Atack "Religion or Intelligence Agency?" for more information.]
-WCB


------------------


SCIENTOLOGY'S WAR AGAINST JUDGES
(The American Lawyer -December 1980)


"At the same time the church was issuing "Guardian Programme
Orders" (directives to church members telling them to use
"standard overt sources" and "any suitable guise interviews") to
monitor the activities of of all district court judges presiding over
the FOIA suits. In 1977 that directive was extended to all 15 active
judges in the D.C.federal district court."


[American lawyer is an influential legal journal that thus
gave a heads up to Scientology attacks and fair gaming of
judges involved in suits with Scientology. A good source
for general fair game activities of judges up to 1980 from
the legal profession itself. Widely webbed.]
- WCB


******************************­******************************­*************


1981


Mr. Jakob Anderson vs The Church of Scientology Denmark
March 11-16 1981
[Widely available webbed - In English]
[Vibeke Dammon, an ex-GO operative testifies as
to GO fair game practices]
- WCB


------------------------------­-----------------------------
"DAMMAN - At one time it was mentioned in one of these
meetings that B-1 had been successful in having a
Dutch professor, who had attacked the Scientologists,
sent to a mental hospital? (sic)


JACOBSEN - Did they succeed?


DAMMAN - Yes, they suceeded.
------------------------------­----------------------------


-----------


US vs Kember, Budlong Sentencing Memorandum
(Undated) 1981


"It is interesting to note that he Founder of their organization,
unidicted co-conspirator L.Ron Hubbard, wrote in his dictionary
entitled "Modern Management Technology Defined" That "truth is what is
_true_ for you, and "illegal" is that which is "contrary to statistics
or policy" and not pursuant to Scientology's "approved program".
Thus with the Founder-Commodore's blessings they could wantonly
commit crimes as long as it was in the interest of Scientology."


"They believed they had _carte blanche_ to violate the rights of others
in order to destroy them, burglarize private, and public offices and
steal documents outlining the strategy of individuals and organizations
that the Church had sued. These suits were filed by the Church for the
sole purpose of of financially bankrupting its critics and in order to
create an atmosphere of fear so that critics would shy away from
exercising
the First Amendment rights secured them by the Constitution."


"To these defendents and their associates, however, anybody who
did not agree with them was considered an enemy agaisnt whom the
so called "fair game doctrine' could be invoked."


"This policy, together with the actions of the defendents who represent
the very top leadership of the Church of Scientology, brings into question
their claim the Church prohibited the commision of illegal acts."


"Defendents, through one of their attorneys, have stated that the fair
game policy continued in effect well after the indictment in this case
and the conviction of the first nine co-defendents.
Defendents claim that the policy was abrogated by the Church's
Board of Directors in late July or Early August, 1980, only after
the defendents' personal attack on Judge Richey.
Transcript of September 5, 1980 at 14."


[Widely webbed, this important document is admission
fair game was policy as late as August 1980 despite
numerous claims from Scientology that Fair Game had
been cancelled in 1968, which was the position of Helena
Kobrin, RTC lawyer of record, on Alt.religion.scientology
in 1996.]
- WCB


******************************­******************************­***********


1982
May 5 - 10, 1982
Clearwater Hearings, Clearwater Florida


[5 days of hearings on past Scientology actions including
appearances of Attorney Michael Flynn,Paulette Cooper and others.
Videos are available as well as transcripts of these hearings
plus other materials such as declarations and other legal
documents. Participants testified under oath.]
-WCB


http://lisatrust/bogie.nl/Media/cwhearings.htm


******************************­******************************­*************


1983


HCOPL 8 Sept 83
CANCELLATIONS OF ISSUES ON SUPPRESSIVE ACTS AND PTs


[I have not seen this.]
-WCB


Cancels HCOPL 23 July 80
[See Atack, "Religion or Intelligence Agency?"
for more information.]
- WCB


******************************­******************************­**************


1984


Breckenridge Decision
June 20 1984


[Judge Breckenridge hands down decision in the case of Mary Sue
Hubbard vs Gerald Armstrong. Finding for Armstrong, Breckenridge
finds among other things, Scientology did indeed practice Fair Game
policies.]
- WCB


"I addition to violating and abusing its member's civil-rights
the organization over the years with its "Fair Game" doctrine
has harassed and abused those persons not in the Church whom
it perceives as enemies."
.......


"Yet she (Mary Sue Hubbard) was the head of the Gaurdian Office for
many years and among other things authored the infamous order
"GO 121669" which directed culling os supposedly confidential
P.C. files/folders for purposes of internal security."


"Defendents, through one of their attorneys, have stated that
the fair game policy continued in effect well after the
indictment in this case and the conviction of the first nine
defendents. Defendents claim the policy was abrogated by
the Church's Board of Directors in late July or early August,
1980, only after the defendents' personal attack on Judge Richey.
Transcript of September 5, 1980 at 14."


-------------------


23 July 84
The Latey Decision in the lawsuit "Re: B & G (Minors) (Custody)
Delivered in High Court (Family Division), London 23 July 1984"


"To give two illustations: Beginning in 197 the Church of Scientology
began a campaign of persecution against Dr. Clark. They wrote letters
to the dean of Harvard medical school and the director of the Massachusets
General Hospital. But they refused to gag him. Their agents tracked
down and telephoned several of his patients and ainterviewd their
neighbors
looking for evidence to impugn his private or personal actions.
They submitted a report to a committee of the Massachussets State
Senate. On three occasions over the last five years a Scientology
"front" called the Citizens Committee on Human rights have brought
complaints against him to the Massachussets Mediavl Board of Registration
alledging improper professional conduct. In 1980 he was declared a
"Number one enemy" and in 1981 they brought two law suits against him
(Summarily dismissed but costly and worrying). They distributed leaflets
at the Massachussets General Hospital offering $25,000 to employees
for evidence that would lead to his conviction on any charge of criminal
activity."


******************************­******************************­**************


1987


HCOPL 24 September 87
CONFIDENTIAL
BATTLE TACTICS ISSUE II


[Reissue of 16 September 1969
Issued with various GO investigator hat packs.]
- WCB
******************************­******************************­************


1989


26 October 1989


LARRY WOLLERSHEIM VS. CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY
Cal Appeal 3D 872 2o Cal Rpt 331
2nd Dist 1989


"The complaint alledged appelant intentionally and negligently
inflicted severe emotional injury on respondant through certain
practices including "auditing", "disconnection" and "fair game".
We conclude there was ubstantial evidence to support a factual
finding the "auditing" as well as other practices in this case
we conducted in a coercive enviroment. Thus none of them qualify
as "voluntary religous practices" entitled to constitutional
protection under the Fisrt Amendment religous freedom guaranties."


"Evidence wwas introduced that at least during the time relevant
to Wollersheim's case, "fair game" was a practice of retribution
Scientology threatened to inflict on "suppressives", which included
people who left the organization or anybody who could pose a threat
to the organization."


"Evidence was also introduced detailing Scientology's retribution
policy, sometimes called "fair game.""


"Finally whe Wolersheim was able to leave the church it subjected him
to financial ruin tyhrough its policy of fair game."


"(4)Conducting a retributive campaign of "fair game" against
Wollersheim and particularly against his business enterprise."


"Scientology asserts that all four courses of conduct comprising the
Intentional infliction claim are forms of religous expression protected
by the freedom of religion clause clauses of the United States
Constitution and California Constitutions, We conclude that would not
be protected religous activity even if Wollersheim freely participated."


http://lermanet.com/scientology/legal/


******************************­******************************­************


1994


ROBERT VAUGHN YOUNG DECLARATION
10 Oct 94
[In the case of Dr. Uwe geertz and Steven Fishman, RVY as
expert witness delivered this declaration in response
to a declaration by Scientology lawyer Lynn Farney.
This declaration is concerned largely with the Fair Game
policies of Scientology.]
- WCB


******************************­******************************­**************


1995


RELIGION OR INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
THE VIEW FROM THE LION'S DEN
Jon Atack
October 1995
[A report on Scientology delivered at the Dialog Centre
International conference in Berlin
A good source on Scientology's fair game policies
and related matters.]
- WCB


"The Hubbard Policy letter that introduced Fair Game
asserted that individuals considered suppressive persons
could be the subject of "1st degree murder, arson,
disintergration of persons or belongings."
- Jon Atack


******************************­******************************­****************


1996


The Fair Game FAQ
A FAQ found on the Scientology official website"Church of
Scientology FAQ homepage. The exact date of composition and author
are unknown to me. But the bottom of the page reads, "(c) 1996-2003
Church of scientology International". Until I know better I will
list this as 1996.
- WCB


"Fair Game was cancelled in 1968, more than 30 years ago, expressedly
because it was suseptible to misinterpretation and abuse."


[Actually the claim that it was "susceptible to abuse" would have come
from Hubbard's HCOPL 22 Dec 80. The 3 Feb 68 code of reform offers
no reasons for cancellation, nor does HCOPL 7 Mar 69 except to say
"..it seems that new policies evolved have ended in reform for severe
internal discipline systems". However, Scientology here ignores the
fact that Scientology argued in court that "fair game" was
Constitutionally protected religous behavior under the 1st amendment
in the Wollersheim case, Christofferson-Titchbourne cases and others
well past 1968. Plus the fact the "fair game law" HCOPL of 7 Mar
1965 was still being promulgated in such Scientology books as
"Modern Management Technology Defined" published as late as 1986.
See 15, June 98, Court Decision OVG Hamburg."]
- WCB


******************************­******************************­**********
1998


15 June 98
Court Decision OVG Hamburg, Germany (Hamburg Administrative appeals
Court) Bs III 65/96


http://home.snafu.de/tilman/krasel/germany/ovg6596.html


["Scientology had sued the city of Hamburg and the Hamburg Parliament
because of a report that had mentioned "fair game" and concluded
that even massive crimes against Scientology-critics would not
be a "suppressive act"according to Scientology ethics.
(http://home.snafu.de/tilman/caberta1.html


The court has doubts whether HCOPL 10.9.1983 has 1) removed the term
"fair game" and 2) brought another definition. The reason is
the defendent showed a 1986 book "Modern Managment Technology Defined"
which has the definition of "fair game" as in HCOPL 23.12.1965 and
specifically refers to it. The conclusion that massive crimes
against Scientology-critics are not considered "suppressive acts
is correct because "suppressive acts" are only acts against Scientology
or Scientologists, not against "suppressive persons".]


- Tilman Hausherr


[Documents at the site above are in German]
-WCB
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More on the death by boiling in the bathtub at the Ft. Homicide Hotel:

Fort Harrison Hotel - Room 771


Death of scientologist Josephus A. Havenith



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Newspaper articles of the St. Petersburg Times published in Decembere 1997 mention the suspicious death of Dutch Scientologist Mr. Josephus A. Havenith. An autopsy report lists his death as "probable drowning" but notes that his head was not under water. He died in February 1980 at the Scientology Fort Harrison Hotel in a bathtub filled with water so hot it had burned his skin off. This page is a memorial for Mr. Havenith. Here you'll find an excerpt and one St. Petersburg Times article in full plus what is most probably his picture, taken from a TV documentary by Mona Botros and Egmond R. Koch - ARD (Germany), April 1997 - Die dunkle Seite von Scientology (The dark side of Scientology) . The pictures link to the releated web-pages, just click on them.



Warning: the picture was made while the person was still in the bathtub. It's not a pretty sight!


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: re how fast I type Reply with quote

Arnie Lerma:

~~Quote~~

"Im a three fingered typist, and make lots of errors... but figure the typos a re rarely worth time correcting, and because I haven't had to make up a single fact in TEN years fighting scientology, and becuase i've been explaining these things over and over and over again on the net for ten years, and 40 hours of radio shows, it just rolls off my fingers, I dont have think about what Im saying, just where the next key is. ANd I cant type in the dark."

~~End of Quote~~

HA! If anybody believes that Arie Lerma types all his posts, Scientology has a bridge to sell ya. Lerma has most of what he posts webbed and/or stored on his website and just CCP's it to OCMB and a.r.s.

Ditto for Lerma having never made up a "fact" in his ten years of fighting Scientology.

Fool you once, shame on him.
Fool you twice, shame on you.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: tigger's de=popularization Reply with quote

In exchange for trying to protect andreas from your bad advice I get a dose of tigger's de-popularization.

Dear Tigger,

I have made good faith efforts to settle our differences,

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whats yer fone number lets chat

arnie

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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:25 pm
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whats yer fone number lets chat

arnie

oh 703 241 1498

ive got an hour to kill

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arnie, I have seen many attempts to mend fences with you.
And it never goes anywhere for one reason only:
A good faith effort on your part to remove the derogatory
writings which you have had webbed for years now.

Maybe you are indicating a change of heart after all this time.
The ball has been in your court for a very long time now.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are not likely to ever agree. Learn to live civilized with it. Enjoy the difference and show us in real life who is the most advanced!!!!
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