which is okay by me anyway, it's his board and he can do what he wants.

To Arnie, your reply just illustrated why I initially expressed my disagreement with your 'approach'.

Reams and reams of irrelevant quotes and Scio type 'explanations' of my alleged motive that require a turbo-charged mouse-wheel just to skip through.

That's it Arnie, and that's all there is. You post (mainly copy and paste) WAAY too much to have any useful effect on anyone. IMHO your posts are mostly just annoying and without any purpose I can see except to promote yourself as some sort of cult authority. That's just how I see it, okay ?

Andreas, I wish you the best, and my only comment on the current situation is that if you were ever in need of financial support for legal matters I would be more than happy to contribute, as I'm sure would many thousands of 'critics', as divided as they are in their opinions of each other, and how they go about opposition, or not.

Andreas,

If they label you as suppressive they consider it their God given right to remove all of your resources in an effort to 'force you to get better'. There is nothing sacred to them, not even your job. If I were you I would go to the media with this. Let the public see how low they will sink to get their way.

I hope your employers have access to this site so they can see for themselves only the cult and its paid character assassins consider you evil.

Andreas,

Anything ever come of this problem? Did your employer see it for what it really is, an unsubstantiated attack by the Co$?

There is no depth the cult will not sink to to undo those it considers its enemies. They're not even gentlemanly about it.

I'm still the General Manager of this company. I don't want to go into details on how I counter the cult attacks against me or to what degree they fail or succeed. Hope you understand why I don't want to let the cult know if their aim is good or bad. Truth always prevails, so one day we'll all tell our stories!

In the meantime I'll let you know when there is fire at least.

The cult has updated all their pages on me based on the letters they are sending out:
[url=http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund01.html]
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund01.html[/url]

No big news, a few more lies. Fun part is that they have adopted the claims and "research" made by Barbara Schwarz.

Another silly thing is that they have changed the address to the files, so all old links will now not work. Scientologists work in mysterious ways...

re schwartz, that is...

that is evidence they are running out of both people and ideas...


just keep on pushing... Scn is falling apart

Ive been getting calls from new people

it is very encouraging and happenning rapidly and the new folks that are coming out are smart, quick, and PISSED...and are seeing through the charades by Hubbard, by David Miscavige and on the net.

The data is getting through

BTW> NEWSWEEK September has big article about religions...


and scientology did not even make the barchart showing howmany in different religions.

they said only 55,000

as does the United States Census bureau now

http://www.lermanet.com/us-census-data- ... rship.html

it wont be too much longer now.. they may be a hard 6-8 of months for some of us, but it wont be too much longer now...

Keep on pushing out the data


arnie lerma

Lord love a duck....if OSA is using Barbara Schwarz's insane BS, that's not only "mysterous ways", that's downright crazy.

BTW, Babs denied she put out the press release attacking David Rice ......but it sounds just like her....so is COS using poor crazy Babs as a safety net to take the fall, if there is one, for them?

This gets curiouser & curiouser.

Tigger

Huh. Seems that $cientology (With fact free, low carb 'scient'), is scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Are they actually running out of lies? Gee, that'd be amusing.

Keep your head above the bullshit, Andreas. And keep on rocking the cult. You seem to be working.

Well, the cult is still trying to hurt me (no details to publish at this point), so I just upped my focus. This means I will spend more time fighting them. Good work, I needed a little inspiration.

I think the best thing that we can accomplish for folks for you that are being lied about and hunted down by these freaks is to make sure people know not to take them seriously. i had a dream last night that someone came by to my door to try to sell me cleaner. Just a simple dream with a pushy salesman but i'm sure it's because of this site i had that dream.
I know if they sent me any literature or came to my house or said something bad about anyone outside the realm of scientology...i'd laugh at them...and that's what we want everyone to do. and i wouldnt have felt this way two weeks ago. it's because of all of you. You did this. So keep it up. you're doing good work.

Back in 1993 through 1996, the cult did all they could do to invade my
work environment, and as well my places of residence. So I know what you're feeling.

$cn does have a special way of making the idol into activists, and turning their enemies into greater forces of resistance.

Keep up the good work Andreas. When I had www.xenu.net painted boldy on the sides of my motorcycle's gas tank back in 2001'
people thought I was bit off balance -- too focused. LOL!



Tom

Hell yes!!! "Make it rough on your attackers, rough all the way"

I know there's probably nothing I can do, but if I can help, do not hesitate to let me know. My email is marlysfan@yahoo.com, or just PM me.

I'm really amazed with their gutter tactics, lies, slander, libel (yeah, very strong terms but that is exactly what it is). Andreas, if there is anything I can do, PM me.

You are in my thoughts and I'm sorry this has happened to you. However, they have only made a stronger adversary and a more outspoken critic of many here. Too bad they can't see the bigger picture.

Ah well, I guess in their case, ignorance is bliss.

Thank you for the support here and by e-mail. It does mean a lot.

Don't worry about me, I got involved in this fully aware of the risks. Should the cult succeed in any way to hurt me personally or professionally they will only create a more vigilant critic.