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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:28 am 
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NO such thing as PTS'ness and the only suppression I see is the cult of
scientology suppressing the rights of its victims to know the truth and
the right its critics to tell the truth.
Other than that Hubbard's words are nothing more than the rantings of a
paranoid delusional drug abuser who cared not a whit about anyone but
himself. The cult of scientology has nothing to offer but enslavement and
destruction.
-Kim P


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:00 am 
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BAD

by U2

If you twist and turn away
If you tear yourself in two again
If I could, yes I would
If I could, I would let it go
Surrender, dislocate
If I could throw this lifeless
Life - line to the wind.
Leave this heart of clay,
See you walk, walk away,
Into the night.
And through the rain.
Into the half-light,
And through the flame.

If I could throw myself,
set your spirit free.
I'd lead your heart away,
See you break, break away
Into the light.
And to the day.

To let it go,
And so to fade away.
To let it go, And so fade away.
I'm wide awake.
I'm wide awake, wide awake,
I'm not sleeping.

Oh, no, no.

If you should ask then maybe
They tell you what I would say.
True colors fly in blue and black,
Bruised silken skies and burning flag.
Colors crash, collide in blood shot eyes.

If I could, you know I would.
If I could, I would let it go.
This desparation.
Dislocation.
Separation.
Condemnation.
Revelation.
Temptation.
Isolation.
Desolation.

Let it go,
And so to fade away.
To let it go,
And so fade away.
Oh, no
I'm wide awake.
I'm wide awake.
I'm not sleeping.

...thought this rebellious war-torn inspired song was
a good one for those struggling to depart Scientology.

i thank you all everyday for your insightful postings.

thanks andreas! i'm now wide-awake again!

lucy (skwalker)}

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:51 pm 
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Scientology makes Scientology look bad.
Anything else is overkill.
-Zinj


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L Ron Hubbard devotes pretty much the whole of Chapter Four of his wacky classic, Scientology A History of Man, to the problems our bodies (Genetic Entities, or GEs) faced back when we were all bivalves. And jellyfish. And seaweed.

"Although this area of the track is called the CLAM, it is improbable that the actual animal was a clam such as our razorbacks. Visios on this seem to indicate that it is a scalloped-lip, white shelled creature. The clam was, of course, quite thoroughly fixed to the rocks and the state is very static." -L Ron Hubbard, Scientology A History of Man

While he comes up with a lot of other colorful concepts, the clam and pain in the the jaw is mentioned several times. What *is* it with these fake gurus and dentistry?
-Jommy Cross


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You make an awful lot of typos. Did you know that Hubbard said
making mistakes is evidence that you are a "Potential Trouble
Source"? -Warrior


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Hubbard was a racist. One can discern that from his own words.
Hubbard was a liar. Again, by his own words, easily disproven.
Bigamist, thief, con man, again, his own words are revealing, as well as
his police record.
Hubbard was a hypocrite, who wallowed in self indulgence at the expense
of his devoted followers, whom he reviled and disrespected.
-Barb


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History has shown (and continues to show) that literally *anyone* (who has ever heard of them) understands Scientologists better than a Scientologist. The reason for this apparent paradox is that Scientologists alone are exposed to the 'Training' which specifically aims at crippling their ability to comprehend what has been done to them (and what they have done to themselves).This is not necessarilly a permanent condition, but those who successfully escape the 'Training' cease to call themselves 'Scientologists'.
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Scientology uses auditing; that is to say, listening,
asking, acknowledging, to hurt people. That's a basic of Scientology.
Listening to people, asking them questions and acknowledging them have
been God's holy gifts to man and the basis of his healing arts since
the Garden. Organizing to hurt people seeking God's gifts; that's
Scientology, and it's very unnice.
-Gerry armstrong


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"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter". - Martin Luther King


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"Every Scientologist on the planet praises 'the bridge,' but not one has
crossed over it. Now brother, *that's* brainwashing." -- Gerry Armstrong


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Scn is inverted. Their entire philosophical basis of life is FEAR. They
believe the universe is a horrid and fearful place populated almost
entirely by SPs and dull idiots.
-Ed


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Another interesting batch of statistics would include the average age of current Sea Org members, how many were raised in the Sea Org, how many graduated from high school, how many old timers are left, how many have children they never see, how many of those children are on ADC, how many pay child support, how many divorces, how many abortions, how many have life insurance, retirement plans, medical insurance, dental insurance, or even savings accounts. How many are illegally in the US, how many have missed their family's funerals, family reunions, weddings, birthdays, holidays, etc. All so they can help "clear the planet" by scraping paint off cement.
-RPF Newsletter #10


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As for me having crossed swords with Cos: it's true. They have been
suing me for copyright infringement - fragments of Scientology's
so-called secret courses are on my web site - and kept losing. The
case is now before the Dutch Supreme Court.
-Karen Spaink


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A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war,
where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and
where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of
Scientology.--excerpt from the Aims of Scientology by L. Ron Hubbard

By what specific criteria does Scientology deem an individual to be not insane, not a criminal, not given to war, able (only the "able" are allowed to prosper), honest (only the "honest" have rights!) and free to rise to greater heights? -Lisa


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