Regarding this post of mine. What I was I was thinking of when I dashed off this (what was for me a) happy post, was that I know we sometimes PhotoShop lurid, ribald or otherwise nasty pictures and posts about hotties like Karen.

I was just thinking if Karen were to come here, it might be nice for her to not run into a picture of herself on all fours chowing down on Tom Cruise or something like that. An unlikely scenario? Perhaps.

But notice my post said we could and just a thought.

I wasn't critisizing critics.

Love is the key.

Thank you Arnie for posting your thoughts on this. To me, this explains clearly what you were thinking and why you made the OSA accusation of Roan. I still don't believe that Roan is OSA. But I do agree that his/her original post about Karen Black was rude and uncalled for, which is characteristic of OSA, but not always OSA.

I think from time to time we have all been guilty, myself included, of defending against spurious comments without the explanation to back the thinking. Taking the time to explain, in the long run helps to clear the situation or at least ease it up a bit, especially if it is truly an OSA attack.

But anymore to me, whether it is OSA or not, civil caring behavior is in order. It stands by the FAQ and it is just plain common decency. Recognizing and knowing the culprit is one thing, how to engage with the culprit is another. And that I have a lot to learn about.

Arnie I think you are the bees knees. You are a troubador in the undressing of Scientology, a man of honor, integrity and heart. You truly have faced the darkness of Scientology, made it through and are helping many to free their minds from this rubbish. I am forever thankful to you.

For the moment Scientology has worn on me. I am officially taking a hiatus from any serious posting, a cheer to a new comer, activist, protester or proflex from time to time, but otherwise I need to take a full-on break. I am a critic, and a very quiet activist in my own way. And that is the best I can do at this time.

This board is amazing, continues to be and will continue to be. I am eternally grateful to Andreas for hosting it and all those that speak the truth about this truly insidious organization (Co$/Scientology).

All in all I truly love everyone. As weird as this statement may be to many, even to me, it is my truth, especially those that make me angry as it shows me truths about myself I wish not to see. And, even those that are deemed OSA. Someones got to love um', how else will they ever wake up without love. That is how I see it. Love is the key. What we think about life and how we love or what blocks us from love, I am finding are the way to truth.

I am tired, my mind is tired from all this. So I am taking a rest.

Think well. Think love. Be open to truth ... And please take care with one another.

The church sued Mr. Lerma charging copyright infringement, and United States marshals seized his computer and 400 disks. Computer experts hired by the church tried to purge all the bootleg gospels from his system. And the judge in Los Angeles sealed the file. But computer dissidents say the texts are still available at Internet sites on several continents.

In the purloined scripture, Scientologists warn that unauthorized readers can die of pneumonia. No epidemic has been reported. - MIKE ALLEN NY TIMES"

FN, what can be learned from this thread is......

Hopefully Karen Black did blow $cn for good. It would be cool if she went public and shared her experiences. And if more celebs could break through the cult's scam of using Hollywood for new raw meat, and bolt, that would be awesome.

However, I also see how a poster's integrity and repute can be trashed (even if temporarily) if they somehow create a post that finds itself caught in the crosshairs of a very respected activist who decides, for one reason or another, to run a training seminar.

I don't know what I learned from this 'training seminar' and I certainly don't know what I learned from this whole episode.

However, I also see how a poster's integrity and repute can be trashed (even if temporarily) if they somehow create a post that finds itself caught in the crosshairs of a very respected activist who decides, for one reason or another, to run a training seminar.

I don't know what I learned from this 'training seminar' and I certainly don't know what I learned from this whole episode.

At the risk of being trashed again or (best-case scenario) of not being listened to:

"Make up your own mind" and "Think for yourself".

OK, let's all sing along..."Ooooh, I wished I lived on a platitude planet where platitudes ruled..and everyone was haaaappy!!!" (hmm....needs work).