Friendly nature - Thank you for saying what I've been thinking. Of course, the lady has already 'protested too much' in this area - becoming shrill (which is merely annoying and not convincing) when confronted. I suppose it was all he had left after the mass sock-puppet purge.

Would you provide the page number, that quote is not from the book I quoted, at least I havent gotten to it yet..Sinister Forces by Peter LaVenda, Book Three The Manson Secret that has the forward by Paul Krassner, Editor of the Realist,

is it from another book..perhaps Buglosi's , then please be specific

I'd be happy to give you exact quotes, except that I no longer have a copy of the book. I read it when I still lived at home. My local library has a copy of Buglosi's book; perhaps yours does, too. (As I said, it's a fascinating read, just on its own. I read it years before I went into the CofS, and I still remember quite a few details.)

My quote was off the page on your site, so I don't have more details than that.

My point was that there are plenty of "real" things to criticize. This one isn't worth it, in my opinion.

Just as IMO you have been induced to post here, for Scientology.

Rather than answer my question, several posters have now accused me of trying to derail the thread and of being a sockpuppet.

Are you guys working from a script?

I'm not.

WHOSE E-METER WAS AT SPAHN RANCH? This is not an off topic question. There is a simple way to find out the answer. Do so.

Every e-meter has a serial number inside of it, and a registered owner.

WHOSE E-METER WAS AT SPAHN RANCH? This is not an off topic question. There is a simple way to find out the answer. Do so.

Every e-meter has a serial number inside of it, and a registered owner.

Well, there's a small problem with finding the serial number, there... you see, the E-Meter probably ended up as police evidence and was almost certainly destroyed a long time ago, when the case no longer became relevant.

if it was in the evidence log (which is where the authors would have found it while researching their information) then it was on the ranch. If it was on the ranch, then Manson found it useful.

Then, in the course my research, a strange thing happened. I learned of the actual involvement of Charles Manson with Scientology. In fact there had been an E-meter at the Spahn Ranch where his "family" stayed.

Arnie Lerma has made an ass of himself again, by posting that Tory Christman used to have my job, and she was better at it.

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So if we say, worldwide there are 150,000 active scientologists (which is probably quite a generous figure), then there are 7,850,000 ex scientologists or dead scientologists or dead ex scientologists.


I got to thinking the other day when I was responding to Tilman's request for IDs on certain RPFers photographed in Clearwater working on a Gold set- up.

One of the pictures was "Jenny", who as the Flag Crew Event I/C (in charge) and that reminded me of the fact that Jenny was married to the German guy who was in charge of the "Special Properties" (or whatever they called it) and was in charge of "Collectors Editions" of books, E-meters, posters, etc which were supposed to be investment quality "Collectors Editions".

The "Planetary Dissemination" model of the E-meter was the same old mark 7 guts with a super laminated custom colored oval face. Not only was it the same old meter with a new paint job, it was marketed only to "UPSTAT" (rich) scientologists on the OT levels, so did not come with a meter sheild or a full selection of cans, since OT's self audit they do not need a sheild or a variety of cans to accomadate others, only themselves.



Melon colored?? Or is it Salmon? Don't ask me...but somehing is fishy.
These "special" e-meters sold for like 10 grand, and supposedly the "profit" went to IAS funds and Sea Org reserves. (Which must be why Jenny and her hubby were driving around in a new BMW).

"Upstat" scientologists were heavily pressured and applauded for buying 2 or 4 of these things. It was a big ego stroke in the courseroom...oooohhh, she paid ten grand for that sucker, and she has one to match her outfit every day!!!! She must be OT!!!

Back to the point, there were maybe 2 thousand of them sold.

Regular Mark VIIs need to be silver certed every 2 years, at a cost of 200 dollars each. Mark VIIs with serial numbers under 8,000 need to be updated before they are valid for use in any cult auditing at a cost of 800 dollars each. Nothing prior to a Mark VII can be used at all. Mark VIIs with serial numbers after 8,000 still need to be updated and silver certed, but maybe it will cost 600 dollars, plus the 200 for a silver cert every 2 years.

Each and every one of these meters (regular or custom) has a serial number on it, and these are tracked by the cult. So if you sell your meter, you will be called into ethics and asked why you sold it, and if you buy a used meter, you will be called into ethics and asked why you didn't buy a new one from the cult too.

Forget about what the reg told you about "investment potential." You bought that 10 thousand dollar meter as a "donation", and anybody else who wants the perks of owning one needs to "donate" their 10 grand to the cult. NOT to YOU!

Back to the serial numbers of emeters...according to my best information and research;

THERE ARE 25,000 CURRENTLY SILVER CERTIFIED E-METERS IN USE!!!!

You do the math...what does this say about how many ACTIVE scientologists there are World wide? Every scientologist is supposed to have at least 2 meters in working order...so cut that in half.

This is WORLD WIDE!!!

There is NOTHING different about a Mark VII or a Mark VII Super Quantum, and even the New and IMPROVED Mark VIII that will be out soon has basically the same wheatstone bridge, it will just cost you alot more clams.

Scientologists just need to look around and figure out that they are virtually alone in the world.

DM wants you to think you are saving the planet, when all the Hip Hip crap is really only a distraction so you won't notice his tiny hand in your pocket.

Ladbird