Another Scientology WHOPPER -

[lermanet_com]

Scientology on their own websites states that I was raided by US federal Marshals

The way it is stated, is as if to imply I was some sort of bad guy..

I mean.. raided by US Federal Marshals!!! Sounds like WACO...
and I'm David Koresch...

And Im not sure what YOU would look like on camera at 9:30 saturday morning if youw ernt expecting guests... but I sure was NOT expecting house guests..scientology's elite SS storm troopers from RTC..with a court order.

Well... today, August 12th, is the anniversary of that Saturday Morning "raid", that started RTC vs Lerma and ten years after ended up with South Park getting an EMMY nomination for playing the story of XENU...which was in the materials I was being sued for posting. LINK

Their claim is like their calling the US vs Mary Sue Hubbard criminal case - which consisted of conspiracy, breaking in to US Asst Attorney General offices..and jail time served... LINK as

"we were caught stealing copy paper"

despite thier claims that I was 'raided by the Feds" the Fed sat on the couch while the raid and search was conducted by Scientologists.



Another stood in the dining room... arms crossed, touching nothing, the Feds dod not raid or search my home, this is what "stealing copy paper.." was to US vs MSH

I was raided by Religious technology Corporation's employees and lawyers, I had Scientologist Attorney Earle C Cooley sitting on my couch wearing his $600 suit, (but he scampered out the door when he heard me ask my lawyer freind to bring their video cams, and realizing that things wern't going as well as they intended (bowling me over)

BELOW: that's me , calling for help! while the US marshal was on my couch and the clams were ransacking my house..



OSA Scientologist Susan Taylor, bringing boxes to cart away my stuff


President of RTC Scientologist Warren McShane,




(thats me on left, disheveled, I wasnt expecting company at 9AM on Saturday morning...they wouldnt wait while I took a shower, shaved amnd put on a suit - the the office from back to fron is Warren McShane President of RTC, Scientology camera guy, Non Scientology computer geek, and Scientologist computer geek Jim Settle they also LIED that he was an independent outside expert) ,

Below: Heres another screen capture of Warren McShane 60 seconds before he entered my bedroom to search there...


Below:Warren McShane leaving my nedroom


Below: Here is Warren McShane (among others) searching my Computer room

Below: A Scientologist photographer, using big old style FLASG BULBS for overwhelming EFX



Here are three scientologists searching my basement, including alan cartwright, and helena kobrin


Below: Anyone know this guy?


Below: Warren McShane [url=http://www.lermanet.com/cos/motion22.html]entering my bathroom
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And that infamous picture of Helena Kobrin thats all over the net came from when she was in my basement


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Washington Post Story frm August 19th about the raid HERE[/url]

And this is me now,"if it doesn't kill you it leaves you stronger"
[url=http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/tampatribune/tampatrib-ross-lerma-07092006.htm](used on the front page of the Tampa Tribune July 9th 2006 )

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And Thank you to everyone who has helped expose the true Nazi character of L Ron Hubbard's Scientology and provided support over the years. Without all of your help I wouldn't be here today.

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What if EVERYTHING hubbard told you was ALL LIES?


So Scientology, Who raided, searched, and ransacked Ex-member Arnie Lerma's home today 11 years ago?

Care to answer? or will you keep on LYING to your members?

[lermanet_com]

Hey Suzanne,

How about an answer?

or am I correct that OSA doesnt ever answer questions they only attack?

Considering the amount harrassment activists endure on chatboards,
actions claimed that RTC lied in US federal court before Federal Judge Leonie Brinkema when Earle C Cooley, the duly appointed scientologist officer of the court lawyer representing the entity called Religious Technology Center claimed.. under penalty of perjury under the law of the commonwealth of Virginia

That

"They can say anything they want about us on the internet, all we care about are our copyrights"

Was RTC thru Earle Cooley lying in Federal Court??

Are (suzanne Marie, pitbull etc) defying RTC?

Or was Earle C Cooley LYING?

[cobaltblu]

Arnie,

Exactly WHY were scientologists raiding your home??? And why were the feds there also? I have heard of search warrants before but NEVER heard that someone who has a legal dispute with you being allowed to search your home.

If something like that happened personally I would shoot first and ask questions later before allowing my enemies to invade my home.

On a lighter side that color photo of the woman with the grayish black hair your posted looks like someone who could be your sister.

Regards,

CB

[clamdigrr]

Arnie wrote:

under penalty of perjury under the law of the commonwealth of Virginia

That

"They can say anything they want about us on the internet, all we care about are our copyrights"

Was RTC thru Earle Cooley lying in Federal Court??

Are (suzanne Marie, pitbull etc) defying RTC?

Or was Earle C Cooley LYING?

I'd love for one of them to dare to answer this. Good point Arnie.

[SP_thats_me]

Exactly WHY were scientologists raiding your home??? And why were the feds there also? I have heard of search warrants before but NEVER heard that someone who has a legal dispute with you being allowed to search your home.

I was wondering exactly the same thing.

[juju]

THIS POST COMES FROM A MAN WHO DESTROYS PEOPLE'S LIFE THROUGH BRUTAL 'DEPROGRAMMING'.

JUST CHECK THE LINK BELOW!
http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol29I1/page24.htm

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Here is "juju" attempting to deflect from the point of the thread. A boring old always used tactic to deter the purpose of the thread which is the obvious attrocities accomplished by $cios or the mentally deluded in $cios.

Lerma has been one of their biggest footbullets. Why? Because he did not "clam up" and go away as hoped by the $cios gestapo. Now, he serves as one of the shining lights of information undressing the criminals known as the Church of scientology.

Good work $cios.

Nice try "juju".

[lermanet_com]

THIS POST COMES FROM A MAN WHO DESTROYS PEOPLE'S LIFE THROUGH BRUTAL 'DEPROGRAMMING'.

JUST CHECK THE LINK BELOW!
http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol29I1/page24.htm

aahhem, clears throat, my handler has been up handling eh?

From the old Guardians Office packs:

"If there will be a long-term threat, you are to immediately evaluate and originate a black PR campaign to destroy the person's repute and to discredit them so thoroughly that they will be ostracized."

Even if the fact is that you've never been alone in a room with the guy,
and never been anything but courteous though I have been called 'gruff sounding' (thats my tough guy routine) or Im just in hurry cause of the volume of traffic...and I do speak to people in a rather direct tone especially if they are listening to me through Ron colored glasses

Deprogramming is a wonderful thing, few will do it, because if you dont wake up the rube, he will sign a declaration stating that you duct taped the guy to a chair etc..and beat him with a rubber hose and you will have to listen to their lies in court.

But, a wise jewish father quipped to me while evaluating a potential deprogramming:

"Arnie, Why would Scientology object to deprogramming unless it were nothing more than mental programming to being with?

Do you have an answer to that?

Neither did I.

Deprogramming is a wonderful thing, it is a beautiful thing,
it PREVENTS DISCONNECTION, it keeps families together at the 'mere' cost of Scientology losing a willing slave, and it saves lives.

wow that is dangerous isn't it?

regards

Arnie


(That didn't work Ollie)

[Skyray]

Nobody has answered the "how can Scientology invade your home" question. the problem is commercial copyright law--when congress passed the law, they ASSumed that copyright issues would be commercial, and the authority to carry out a preemptive raid did not consider that the raid might be on someone's home. All you have to do to get authority to raid with US Marshalls standing by to keep the peace is allege that the target has violated your copyright. That is not a problem when what they raid is an office, but it becomes a major constitutional issue when they raid your home--but you don't get to argue the issue, because those copyright criminals might use the notice of a raid to dispose of the evidence. So don't ever give anyone as pernicious as the Church of Scientology any reason to think that you have violated their copyright, because you may end up with the same kind of party that Arnie had for Warren McShame and Helena the discredited.

[SchwimmelPuckel]

Unfortunatly the law made it 'legal' for $cientology to run rampage in Arnies home. And that is not the first or only time that $cientology made fools af the law by making them do their dirty work. Scientologys track record in this area is something to behold.

Let's not forget this 'official' and 'sacred scripture' by L. Ron Hubbard: "The law can easily be used to harras!" - It's all done as per policy!

This scene will change though. Police, lawyers and judges don't like to be made fools of anymore than anybody else.

With the OSA in existence the Cof$ are in contempt of a court order given in the courtcase on OP Snow White. Frivolous lawsuits. Making evidence dissappear. Framing people to get them in trouble with the law. Numerous documented examples of intimidating witnesses, including drowning judge Swaeringers dog. Flooding the courts in rediculous mountains of paper and generally throwing monkey wrenches into the legal proceedings.

All in compliance with documented Church policy! - And in blatant defiance of our societys morals, as well as legal system.

This is a show that can't go on... It will be intersting to see just what the Cof$ 'pulls in'.

[clamdigrr]

juju is like that streaker at the 1974 Oscars...

Arnie is like David Niven - who just carries on with class while juju keeps showing his ass.

Schwim.Puckel wrote:

Let's not forget this 'official' and 'sacred scripture' by L. Ron Hubbard: "The law can easily be used to harras!" - It's all done as per policy!

This scene will change though. Police, lawyers and judges don't like to be made fools of anymore than anybody else.

This is true enough. It's going to be interesting to watch the legal issue surrounding the cult in future- including how their pet Sherriff Lee Baca holds up.

[lermanet_com]

Thanks, Id never been compared to him before, thought he was a fabulous ctor, he wrote a wonderful little book, his only 'book' called The Red Balloon back in the 60's.

I had real world work yesterday, so wasnt around, hope you guys had fun without me.

So all JJ did was attack, he could not answer the question?

Morning Musings

The whole auditing emeter cans pencil auditor routine
is the corrollary to the magicians PRESET... Where the performer sets up his special effects...arrangies his props, and makes sure his rabbit has recently taken a poop...then, with the intent of dimming the lights of reason, the stage is "set"..in scientology, to help directly create the expectations, to help trick the subconcious into having GREAT EXPECTATIONS....

Meanwhile the small electrical charge of the E-meter raises the dupe's Endorphins just a little, thus contributing to the "effect". "The room seems brighter" was actual;ly stated by one of the first recipients of electric stimulation of the Vagus Nerve in a study I read.

A person, who has been commanded never to talk about his "case", and never to display "HEA&R" (upset) , and never to seek "attention" now, for a few VERY EXPENSIVE MINUTES, is allowed to say anything he wishes in answer to the magicians patter, encouraged to talk about himself!! as if Hubbard stole a few pages from Dale Carnegie and is ALWAYS told that he is RIGHT, (see auditors code) then the needle falls, and yes... he really was Alexander the Grape in a previous life!!

The subconscious is following along the clues given...the dupe has no chance..no chance unless he has studied the MIND CONTROL TECHNIQUES of scientology (or taken the LONG road, learning from expereince by getitng into and then out of scientology) and read william sargant, Erickson's hypnotic technques, Stage Show magic patter or knows and can recognize Logical Fallacies when they are used to change his perceptions.

The magic show technique of 'setting the stage' for how what you are going to percieve next, is evaluated, is also used in information warfare by Scientology.

[brownjedi]

They are unbelievble. The question that I ask now though is, if your "church" was accused of stealing copy paper wouldn't that set off a few warning bells? Like why is my church stealing copy paper?

[friendly nature]

Some sites that have pretty gruesome pictures give a fair warning to the weak of stomach.

Arnie, please, in the interest of humanity, the next time you start a thread and 'The Picture' will be part of the thread, please post one of those warning disclaimers at the start of the thread. Some examples if I may be so helpful:

"WARNING! The following picture may cause you to become celibate!"

"WARNING! Do not feed the monkey in the picture that follows!"

"NOTICE! The following picture is NOT a pornographic picture of somebody's ass!"

Helena, is it true that when you went on that bungee cord ride the operator tried to tie the cord around your neck???

[whatntha]

Sorry for what you went through Arnie. This is a good post to show $cientology's true nature.