LOL Dr. Donna Shannon That is how i feel about the E METER I would be on it and would have passed about 10 worlds i did not under stand and they would ask me if i had passes any words hahah this was when i was on the cans Emeter i would say No and i would always pass on the e meter hahah . Keep telling the true harms of scientology.
H.O. Tommy Gorman

I understand about the phony situation you described. What he did was stupid, as well as, dishonest.

On the other hand, if there were no electronically measurable responses in the human body then there would be no such thing as a polygraph. Albeit, the e-meter is crude compared to the polygraph and its use.

Best regards,
Larry

Chuck Beatty wrote in one of his posts that when he was on the RPF he had a twin who was asleep while on the e meter and his needle was floating.

I can't remember his exact words but it was very amusing to read it.


Opter

As I was told by a PC on-lines in L.A. (we were staying at The Manor), "A reg will tell you anything." (And that is not a paraphrase... I still remember his words quite vividly from a chit-chat a few of us were having in a room at The Manor.)

Oh, and another interesting tid-bit, I think that I was the only "straight" (heterosexual) person in that room that evening (there were 3 guys and 2 gals). Isn't that amusing!

programmer_guy that is so true but very weird lolol. Scientology is a CON and only cares to sell more to make more and more money . L R H sucks and is a druged PSYCH little fat short man that use to beat his wife. Keep telling the true harms of scientology .
H.O. Tommy Gorman

I have SO many examples of lies told to me by registrars, it's not even funny. One that stands out in my mind as incredibly pitiful: Rudy Kempner, of Planetary Dissem, once came to me while I was waiting for session (another reasion to have you wait) and told me that he needed $14,000 to help get some SO members out of trouble. He told me the story was too entheta to tell the public, but since I had such "high confront" that he would tell me. He told me that 2 SO members had been arrested in Lebanon or Palestine or somewhere and were going to be stoned to death. He assured me that this kind of thing still went on. It was interesting that I had just put $14,000 into a trust fund with a lawyer to pay off a cycle, so I'm sure that's where the amount came from. He told me he had only told 1 other public because it was "so awful". I said, you're making this up. He denied it and kept on and on. I even asked him later about it and he swore he didn't make it up. I did ask him how the $14,000 would be used, and he told me for TWTH books!!! Like THAT would prevent such a thing!!

I also spotted a really interesting reg cycle, after we left $cientology. Shortly after I got married (I was on OT V), Dave Foster tried to get me to pay $6000 for intensives for my husband to get back onto OT VII. My husband had a long "program" to do, so I said no, we just don't have the money (I hadn't been working for a year and a half, so I could "go up the Bridge, full-time").

So a few days later, I was asked to fly to Miami to pick up a new SO recruit. My auditor gave me his blessing to miss session for a day, so my husband and I went, with Sam Scelza, to Miami in my plane. The communication lines to find out what was happening with this new recruit were incredible. Sam had no cell phone. We had to use ours, and call FLAG, who would try to relay info (realize, this is all intentional BS). So, the girl was supposed to arrive from Ecuador at 11:00 Pm or something. We got there, and were then informed that her flight had been cancelled or she missed the connection, or something, so we would have to stay overnight, and get her the next day. So, what the hell, we were having fun, so we went to find a restaurant and get some food. Halfway there, we got a call back, saying she was in Miami after all!! By now, it's midnight or so.

We turned the car around and went to Miami International to pick her up. We found her easily at that time of night, as she had been waiting there for hours and there were few other people. She was hungry, and we were too, so we went to Bennigan's by the airport and ate. By the time we left there, it was 2 AM. We drove back to Opa Locka airport, where my plane was, and flew back to Clearwater. We took Sam and the girl to the Coachman. Sam said he didn't have any way to get anybody to take her to a berthing and he left her with us. We were told we had to find somewhere for her to sleep. We had no spare room in our house, so we took her to a motel (back the other way), and had to PAY for her damn room!! We got home at 5 AM, and went to bed.

At about 11 AM, ol' Dave Foster was pounding on my door. I ignored him. He actually trespassed on my property, opened my gate, and went into my fenced back yard by the pool, where he stood and yelled "Donna! Mike! It's Dave. You have to talk to me." Again we ignored him, and tried to sleep. He called on the phone, and I told him to go away, I was tired. He kept on pounding and yelling, until finally we went and let him in, and paid him the money to make him go away.

Looking back on this, I see the evil machinations of their little minds, setting it all up, with the control factors, the sleep deprivation, and so on.

Incredible, huh!!! $cientologists are trained robots, and don't even know it!

SO members being stoned to death in Lebanon!!? - That's the wildest story I've heard yet! - Oh, man!

Dr. Shannon, you had an airplane. Didn't the registrars suggest that you sold that? - They talked me into selling my car to get money for sevices... I was stupid enough to do it.. Sheeesh!!!

It's funny he didn't offer any kind of proof--no photos, newspaper clippings, letters to or from the embassy, arrest warrants, etc....

He probably didn't mention what there crime was either--if it was "practicing $cientology" I might of said something like, "Cool, make sure they video tape it!! I want to see it!!"

Also, as if peppering a Palestinian village with WTH booklets would do anything--He should have said the money was being used for plane tickets, legal fees, or even a team of commandos, but then again his story was such a complete pile of bullshit it wouldn't have stood up to the slightest bit of questioning. Man, this Dave Foster sounds like a royal sleazebag!!

mb

Uh, I don't think anyone was stoned to death for the last 20 or 30 years in Lebanon nor Palestine.... So this Rudy Kempner is/was nothing than an ignorant fool!

I am beginning to believe that registrars must spend so much of their time lying to people, in order to extort whatever money they can from them, that they probably end up losing any sense of reality and they can't
tell anymore the difference between lying and telling the truth, or perhaps lying becomes embedded in their DNA.

I would be interesting to find out if occasionally they behave honestly by mistake.

The Reg post is absolutely the most stressful post in an org. It's all about getting money out of people and they drill and drill and drill on HARD SELL
and scheme on ways to get money out of people's pockets. But one thing many people may not realize is that most of these regs really believe they are doing the right thing. Hubbard teaches the regs that they must "really care" about the person and really know and understand that they are helping to "salvage a being" and so to be reasonable with a public person and allow them NOT to give you their money is really a very harmful thing.

Regs who don't make a lot of money are told that they must really not want people to go free, or else they'd get the money. They are told that they are being suppressive and out ethics because they are preventing people from going up the Bridge.

With that kind of attitude, the ends start to justify the means.

Patty P

Dr Shannon:


I have no doubt of this. The regges make your life their business. And let us not forget they get a cut from all monies regged. As I had mentioned before there is a reg in the SF Bay Area that does not bring his new car to the org's parking lot. And why not? Probably so public cannot see where some of their hard earned money went to .

Dr Shannon:


do you mean the $6000 he was trying to get from you originally? Do you think all this flying around B.S. was just time for him to close the sale? And this after you pay for the plane, dinner, motel etc. That is truly sick!

Yep, that asshole got the $6K at about 1:58 on Thursday!!

I think that at first, the SO slaves think that they are doing the "greatest good", but how can anyone turn a blind eye to all the HUGE glaring outpoints as an SO member????? A lot of them figure out really quickly that they have to treat others bad in order to survive, themselves. (See my story about the "marks" and "con artists" on the "through the door interviews").

But, does this justify the lying and "raping" of public???

I don't agree with this as an excuse. These people (the reges), no doubt, are in a living hell of their own creation.

You know, it's really funny, that one of the things that got me to just leave was an LRH quote (not verbatim, sorry) where he says "I was never a slave, because I never WANTED to be one". This time the tables were turned, and his own twisted BS was used against him!