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If speculation is still allowed -

It's a fact that certain Rep. leadership knew what was going on. They aren't going to easily admit to it or give his donation half mil back either.

Foley's playing the blame game - if he admits to having had or goes to legitimate psychiatrists, they are clearly not going to put the pederasty/pedophilia eggs in the homosexual basket. They aren't the same. Neither would they let him get away with 'I was abused so I had no choice/became an abuser'.

However, there is a certain religion that will/would say that it's an 'abberation' and curable without psychiatry - which is why his behavior ran unchecked for as long as it did. The spotlight of blame for him would then be (at least momentarily) off of the Republicans.

I'm not saying that he is possibly in a Co$ facility for this reason - but the public is demanding a head or two on a pike. At this point, I don't think it's wise for a Scientologist to blindly defend them without a few more facts coming out; if they're going to complain that the critics are rushing to judgment. Is this something you'd want to be wrong about?


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All good points Clamdigrr. However, I bet you an hour of auditing that the filthy $500,000 is returned. That is poison money come November. Who wants to tell voters that they kept Mark Foley's money?

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1. Foley hasn't been charged with anything yet. I think an indictment will be quickly handed down because the Republicans have to put Foley's head on a pike. IMO, the Republicans will pressure a Federal prosector for indictments before the Nov. elections because they have to look tough on crime. I think Foley will plea bargain because he doesn't want to answer for those IM's in open court.

2. I have no idea if my "source" is correct. I posted these as rumors to show you how hot the rumor mill is. It is ironic that Florida, the state that allowed Bush to come to power, could be the same state the causes the Republicans to lose power. A Democratic House and/or Senate will be nasty with GW Bush and will hobble him with investigations.

3. I got an e-mail telling me that neither Narconon nor Scientology would be allowed by their rules to help someone like Mark Foley. I could see Narconon and Scientology telling the guy no for PR reasons.

4. Question for the former CoS execs: How do you think Scientology would handle Mark Foley if he came to them and asked for auditing or detox and had $100,000 to spend?

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Clamdigrr: Talk about a rush to judgment! The Mark Foley page has been purged from the US House of Representatives website:

http://www.house.gov/page_not_found.shtml

It looks like Denny Hastert knows how take out the trash!

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However, CCHR and Scientology still have Foley up on their website:

http://www.fso.org/en_US/news-events/pg005.html

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:22 am 
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J. Swift wrote:

It is good to see Scientology brought into this Foley matter. The question is this: How long before we find out that Rep. Mark A. Foley is secretly a Scientology OT? I bet that Foley has been onlines for years and is at least an OT III.

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You bet?

On another thread you claimed the 'rumor mill' was the source of this particular nugget.


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Yes, the rumor mill is the source of my speculation SM. I am wanting to side with the rumor mill now because it would be great if Mark Foley were discovered to be a Scientology OT. However, until hard evidence appears either way it is all rumor and that is why I stated it as rumor.

SuzanneMarie, what you need to do is to use the Third Party Law to discover the "Who" who is causing discord between you and I. Remember this my darling one: There is always a Third Party because Ron said so.

Maybe Scientology has nothing whatsoever to do with this SuzanneMarie?

Only time will tell.

For now we must ask why you are in your reactive mind and on a website that is awash in entheta? Or are you here to disenturbulate the entheta with your theta? If so, it is not working.

So why?

Why are you wasting your brief breath in eternity here SuzanneMarie? Please, my precious one, please allow me to post this here for your immediate benefit because I sense you are losing case gain, going downstat, and risking PTSness:

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No, Foley is now blaming the Church for his Homosexuality!

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Lawyers acting for Mark Foley, the Republican congressman who resigned after it was revealed he had sent sexually charged emails to teenage boys, said yesterday that the politician had been abused by a member of the clergy as a teenager.

No details of the alleged abuse were given, other than that Mr Foley, who is a Roman Catholic, was between 13 and 15 years old at the time of the abuse. One lawyer, David Roth, acknowledged for the first time that the congressman, 52, is gay. "Mark Foley wants you to know he is a gay man," Mr Roth told a news conference in Florida, adding that the admission was part of a "recovery" programme

- http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1887161,00.html


Interesting choice of lawyer by the way! DavidLeeRoth wrote a song about the forbidden love between men in power and the boys at their knees:

I think of all the education that I missed.
But then my homework was never quite like this.
Got it bad, got it bad, got it bad,
I'm hot for teacher.
I got it bad, so bad,
I'm hot for teacher.


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ANTI-GAY SCIENTOLOGISTS BACKED MARK

By NILES LATHEM and IAN BISHOP
October 4, 2006 -- WASHINGTON

Mark Foley, who resigned from Congress because he got caught sending sexually suggestive e-mails to teenage male pages, had a political relationship with the very anti-gay Church of Scientology, it was revealed yesterday.

The controversial cult-like church has major operations in Clearwater, Fla., which just happens to be in Foley's district.

The group also hosted a fund-raiser for Foley in May 2003 when he was considering a Senate run.

It posted photographs of a smiling Foley posing with key Scientology officials who presented him with a copy of founder L. Ron Hubbard's tome "Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health."

That book defines "homosexuality" as a "sexual perversion."

Although he never officially came out of the closet, that Foley was gay was one of the worst-kept secrets in Washington.

A spokeswoman for the church did not return calls seeking comment.


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The group also hosted a fund-raiser for Foley in May 2003 when he was considering a Senate run.


What ??? What ??? Churches* are not allowed to be engaged in political activities! It is against the law. Christ! Oh wait, "there was no Christ".

Perhaps the NY Post report of a fundraiser is not correct? Even Scientology would not be that stooopid! What the Post is probably referring to is a "fondle raiser" where Scientologists and Foley phillybusted each other in a congressional cockass.

* Well, churches other than fundamentalist Christian religions that is.


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J. Swift wrote:

"Yes, the rumor mill is the source of my speculation SM. I am wanting to side with the rumor mill now because it would be great if Mark Foley were discovered to be a Scientology OT. However, until hard evidence appears either way it is all rumor and that is why I stated it as rumor.

SuzanneMarie, what you need to do is to use the Third Party Law to discover the "Who" who is causing discord between you and I. Remember this my darling one: There is always a Third Party because Ron said so."



Swift,

You yourself function as a third party and have been the source of many disputes on this board, by posting things about other people that are untrue.

For instance, you claimed that I, Giggles and theta_entheta were all the same person, and OSA. You claimed that Tamaritha was a Scienotroll.
You accused Simkatu of being OSA, as well as Roan. I could continue with this, but what's the point? You don't really think that you are lying about people. Somehow you redefine your lying as 'speculation', so you can avoid any responsibility for deceiving people.

You may as well continue your vain attempt to conflate Foleygate with Scientology. It is in the new tradition of tabloid-style fiction that you have established on this board.

Pippi,

It was the Clearwater Business Association that gave the luncheon for Mark Foley, not the Church of Scientology.


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What the Post is probably referring to is a "fondle raiser" where Scientologists and Foley phillybusted each other in a congressional cockass.


OMG lol soooooo true IMHO! :D


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This is so huge I don’t think it’s really hit everybody yet just what we’re dealing with here.

The cult’s #1 man in Congress, their dude, the one in their hip pocket is a pedophile. The media hasn’t even begun to play up the $cientology angle yet but soon will.

Remember, the cult has no backups anymore. When someone goes, nobody new takes their place. No politicians, movie stars, personalities step in. It’s strictly lose-lose for the cult. In mathematics it’s called a “strictly decreasing function.� Friends gone are not replaced anymore and will never be.

Folks this isn’t a little nail in the coffin it’s a big one. So big people aren’t sure how to process it yet, and it’s getting lost in the shuffle over what Hastert knew and when did he know it. But the cult angle will have it’s day.

The Karma Express continues to run over $cientology, the Cult of Blithering Lunacy.

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Morsicle wrote:
This is so huge I don’t think it’s really hit everybody yet just what we’re dealing with here.

The cult’s #1 man in Congress, their dude, the one in their hip pocket is a pedophile. The media hasn’t even begun to play up the $cientology angle yet but soon will.

Remember, the cult has no backups anymore. When someone goes, nobody new takes their place. No politicians, movie stars, personalities step in. It’s strictly lose-lose for the cult. In mathematics it’s called a “strictly decreasing function.� Friends gone are not replaced anymore and will never be.

Folks this isn’t a little nail in the coffin it’s a big one. So big people aren’t sure how to process it yet, and it’s getting lost in the shuffle over what Hastert knew and when did he know it. But the cult angle will have it’s day.

The Karma Express continues to run over $cientology, the Cult of Blithering Lunacy.


So true Morsicle! I was driving home tonight and heard on the radio that the Democratic Campaign Comittee knew about Foley for quite some time and decided to drop the bomb at an opportune political time. That would mean that they endangered minors by sitting on the information. If that's true, BOTH parties will be under serious investigation and Co$ won't have anywhere to hide in this giant mess. The real question is: Did Co$ pay him with check, CASH, or real estate?


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Just had to post these....... :)

Rep. Mark Foley's Perverted IMs: A Dramatic Reenactment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-nBWZD6fbI&eurl=

Daily Show on the Foley Fiasco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwTMdTqtVmw

MARK FOLEY'S BEST LINES FOR CONGRESSMEN WISHING TO PICK UP PAGES
http://www.dailygut.com/index.php?i=1198



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Ron Bonjean, Hastert's spokesman, said the entire matter had been referred to the House ethics committee. "We fully expect that the bipartisan panel will do what it needs to do to investigate this matter and protect the integrity of the House," he added.


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Foley, 52, a Florida Republican, resigned last Friday after he was confronted with sexually explicit electronic messages he had sent teenage male pages. He has since entered an alcohol rehabilitation facility at an undisclosed location. Through his lawyer, he has said he is gay but denied any sexual contact with minors.


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I was thinking of a good blind date tv episode. It would be a "gay weirdos of Scientology" show or something like that.

Tom Foley is the main guy that goes on a date with Tom Cruise and John Travolta. He has to pick between one of them. You could maybe throw in a kid on a laptop or something like that also. Just an idea-

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