Give me one instance where Scientology has ever voluntarily returned a substantial sum of money.


Shouldn't be hard.





C'mon. Just one....

SuzanneMarie:

SM. you are confused on so many things. First, I am the party of the first part and so cannot, by definition, be a third party. This should be self-evident to you. Secondly, you do not mention all of the mistakes, tablodism, and Dead Agenting, Knife-in-the-back activities you have committed on this board. You are still in my book as a possible OSAtroll who is doing A-E here trying to work your way back into Scn after you were thrown out for natter. Third, unlike you, I clean up mistakes I make. I publicly apologized to Simatku after he demanded an apology. I have also apologized to others publicly. You have never apologized to anyone.

SM, I caught you in so many major lies and contradictions that you had to start "What is Swifty's Game" as a way to Dead Agent me in order to escape my having exposed you as a vicious liar and worthless Scientology
scumbag. That thread was you, your sockpuppets, and your little IM pals running amok and the thread amounted to naught. All it offered was a demo in Dead Agenting and proved that you are an OSAtroll of some kind.

SM, you are factually a piece of Toxic Scientology Crap and I could care less what you think. You are a liar, a phony, and a vicious beeotch. You can just take all of your natter and stick it where your head and e-meter are already permanently parked! Oh and BTW, if all you can do is to live in the past and dwell on things I did in the past, then you are a pathetic, boring broken record as well. But keep hanging onto the past if you want. Keep repeating really old stuff from the Dead Agent files you keep in your nightstand next to your best friend, that shopworn old "King Kong" vibrator of yours. It is better for my purposes to keep you trapped in your reactive mind than have you be in PT.

You are a prissy covert twat with a poisoned mind and evil intent. There is no good in you whatsoever that I can see and you exist to spread lies, promote a mind-control cult, and live out your small pathetic life begging to be allowed back into the prison of Scientology. You love your chains because Scientology brainwashed you to love them.

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What I do know is this: When a Scientologists shows up at OCMB there are only two possibilities: They desperately want out of Scientology or they are here to murder OCMB posters. SM, you are one of the Scientology murderers. You are evil and have no good intentions. You add nothing of value to the board whatsoever.

No Scientologist in good standing is allowed to visit OCMB. Only those Scientologists who are ordered to do so by OSA can come to OCMB by official sanction to murder OCMB posters. The other Scientologists who come here on an unauthorized basis are PTS or SP by definition.


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Great point – a fundamental contradiction that the Cult of Blithering Lunacy never answers. It’s right up there with “Why do OTs need to still wear their glasses?�

Build a philosophy on L. Ron Hubbard’s lies and idiocy and that’s what you get – tripped up and exposed by the most stunningly simple questions.

The SM types claim to be “Just average $cientologists in good standing who came here to set you all straight.� And yet such a person by DEFINITION can’t even exist. Because the $cientologist would immediately fall out of good standing the second they arrived here! In fact, they would have had to disable net nanny to even get here. Then they cover the board 10, 12, 14 hours a day – trying to cross reference what people say today with what they said months ago. And then they expect us to believe they’re real people?

And the Cult of Blithering Lunacy blithers on ..

SHE SAID SHANIQUA WONG WAS REAL!!

That's all I have to add.

Swift,

I have already admitted to being PTS. And the church can only stop me from posting here if they know who I am. They do not.

You have accused me of being covert. In all my hostility to you I've been open and above-board. You accuse me of being a murderer and intending to murder you. This would be funny if it weren't scary. Are you going to try to kill me and claim self-defense? Have you now redefined 'murder' to include revealing old posts that prove a person has been lying? We both know that that is what I did to you. Are you saying that you've now been killed? Your credibility, yes. You yourself, no.

You mentioned the Swifty's game thread as an instance of me running amok with sockpuppets and IM pals. I have neither. You are a liar.
It was theta_entheta's post about your lack of ability to pronounce Scientologist jargon that prompted me to go back and look at your old posts. But you will always pretend that I started that Swifty's game thread because you, the mighty Swift, were winning some war of words.
You are not winning. You are the one who is a vicious liar, a worthless scumbag, and oh yes, a phony.

You maintain that I've never apologized to anyone here. Do you think I should apologize to you? For what? You're the one who keeps lying about people here on OCMB, and in the wonderful world of real life, with which you are sadly out of touch.

I don't have a net nanny, but don't let the truth interfere with *your* blithering.
I'm PTS but in good standing until CoS says otherwise. I do not cover the board 10, 12, 14 hours a day, you may have me confused with some other, more prolific poster.

Let's see, umike and his brother both got substantial refunds of their donations. Aren't there a number of exes here who have boasted about having gotten refunds from CoS too?
Are you going to tell me that the church does not give refunds voluntarily? Why pretend that, when it is church policy to give refunds of donations for auditing and training to those who are dissatisfied?

SuzanneMarie, the murder of which I accuse you is the murder of character assassination. Your job here is to engage in the murder of people's reputations by spreading malicious lies and Dead Agenting. This marks you as a depraved spiritual criminal.

I abhor violence and would only harm another in self-defense. However, in terms of spiritual warfare I am obligated to expose you as a murderer of people's reputations and of OCMB itself because you act on a premeditated basis with malice aforethought. You prowl OCMB seeking whom you may destroy.

I do not believe that you are PTS. I believe you are an OSAtroll doing A-E. If you are PTS as you claim then this makes you good for nothing. Being PTS means that Scientology does not want you and that you are of no use whatsoever to OCMB. You are a pariah in a spiritual purgatory of your own making.

I have fully explained my use of disinformation. Those who support me accept my tactics as being justified and even required at OCMB. Those who seek to destroy me, you in particular, make a mountain out of a molehill.

SM, Scientology gutted and stripped you of your humanity decades ago. They pulled all of the humanity from you and left you a ravaged, anrgy, spinster whose only joy in life comes from spiritually injuring and murdering other people. Although you do not believe in mental illness as a Scientologist, you need to reconsider its reality and the treatment offered for it if you ever hope to regain your humanity. As it is now you are both craven and pitiful. Because you are still a very toxic personality I warn others to keep a sharp eye on you.

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Swift,

I do believe in psychosis, in fact, there's a definition of it in the Tech Dictionary, which you have obviously not read. It says something about psychosis being the overt or covert obsessive continuous wish to destroy.
Something like that, as I recall.

Swift, you can not injure a spirit. It is possible to degrade or confuse them however. If you equate 'murder' with hurting somebody's feelings or credibility, then you have a serious mental problem.
Since when is a PTS good for nothing? No policy states this, it is your own arbitrary tossed in here in hopes of further deluding the people in your fan club.

Swift, somebody gutted and stripped you of your humanity decades ago.
They pulled all the humanity from you and left you a ravaged, angry, delusional bachelor whose only joy in life comes from slandering and falsely accusing other people. Although you do not believe in your own mental illness, you may need to change your medication under your doctor's supervision or alter the treatment you are receiving for it if you ever hope to regain your sanity. As it is now you are both craven and pitiful. Because you are still a very toxic and dishonest personality I warn others to check the facts in your posts, something you do not do.

Get well soon!

Anyone who is in .. get this folks .. anyone who is in L. RON HUBBARD’s FAN CLUB, actually has the unmitigated gall to talk about fan clubs!

Just conjure up ol’ Blubbard in your mind. Standing there all hung over. Fat, bad-teethed, craping out endless mounds of blithering gibberish about engrams and Xenu.

Yes just picture the fat tub of crap. Now picture SM looking up at him all dreamy-eyed.

SM, don’t talk about fan clubs again. You’re in L. Ron Hubbard’s fan club, that demented, evil tub of crap L. Ron Hubbard. Being in his fan club makes you one of the greatest fools history has ever produced.

Spoken like a charter member of the J. Swift Fan Club!

Suzanne Marie,

You're the only one here trying to defend them with as few facts in this case as you accuse Swift of having.

They got into bed with a pedarast. Period. The bottom line now, is what do they do about it.

It's simple enough and the logical choice that your 'church' make a statement - SOMEWHERE - explaining and/or distancing themselves - IF that's what they intend to do. If they don't, then people should ask why that is. You know that and the dumb act is getting old.

Taking his picture off of some websites isn't going to cut it.

You running around as the defender of their virtue isn't going to help them in the greater court of public opinion. Perhaps you don't understand something - Foley's state is Florida. The Co$ is in Clearwater. A fuckton of people who aren't happy with either Foley or Scientology are going to dig at everyone and everything connected to him.

You want to help out your 'church'? Tell the leprachaun driving to clear the matter and the questions up ON RECORD - or you can both shut up and he can go see about maybe bumping off the Lucky Charms guy and taking his job.

Not really...more like a charter member of OCMB.

Here's how Clammie comes off:

"There are alligators in Florida. Alligators that eat people. Why hasn't Scientology done anything to distance itself from these man-eating reptiles? Are we to assume that they approve of such things?"....

And so on and so on, far into the wee hours...