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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:45 am 
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Thanks, BTs2Free...............what a drag to hear Gary died.

Again, quite a young man I'm pretty sure. He must have been in his late
50's, right? How sad.

Thanks for telling me. I'm happy his daughter is out.
I believe Annette is still married to the Mexican Millionaire who is
also a Scio--and no doubt gets milked *constantly*.
She's never looked happy since they hooked up--my guess is *something* isn't quite right.

Too bad, truly my love to his daughter---and Annette, IF you happen to read this, please give me a call.


My best to all, :wink:

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If the father took away the meds and if that contributed to or caused the death of the son, then #2.
Reason: Scn's proscription against psychiatric meds, treatment and any other psychology based treatment.
This is why Scn is responsible in a major way for Jeremy Perkins' death, for example.

If the son died from another cause (I don't know what he died of) and the father took it upon himself to not call an ambulance right away, then reason 1.

Reason: Non psychiatric medical care is not against Scn. But there are a lot of idiots in the world.


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Ball of Fluff wrote:
If the father took away the meds and if that contributed to or caused the death of the son, then #2.
Reason: Scn's proscription against psychiatric meds, treatment and any other psychology based treatment.
This is why Scn is responsible in a major way for Jeremy Perkins' death, for example.

If the son died from another cause (I don't know what he died of) and the father took it upon himself to not call an ambulance right away, then reason 1.

Reason: Non psychiatric medical care is not against Scn. But there are a lot of idiots in the world.


You’re bordering on saying that Scientology itself is irresponsible, reckless, and even dangerous – at least with regard to it’s policies on psych medication.

There was this lady, I forget her name, but she was on the Good Ship Hubbard Pop back when the Commodore wrote the RPF policy. When she saw the RPF policy she was completely aghast. She recognized for what it was – literally a concentration camp within Scientology. Seeing her concern, Hubbard explained to her about the sorry state of affairs in the world. And everything is so backwards that only through draconian measures could the planet truly be Cleared.

And so she accepted it. For the sake of the greater mission, she accepted it.

And that’s really the whole ball of wax in terms of how good people find themselves sucked into a complete moral abomination - once they buy into the original notion of a greater mission, they’ve been hooked. The pile of corpses at Jonestown shows us that.

My point? My point is Fluff that if you ever truly see that there is no mission at all, that ‘Clearing the Planet’ cannot happen because it is not real - the Commodore lied - then it will be far more then just their policy on psych meds that you’ll question.

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Not really interested in planet clearing (even though our kitty's name is Planet :lol: ) and never have been.

Not a crusader, never was.

As to the rest, I think I've answered well enough in preceding posts.

Peace out.


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Message from a relative of Kyle:
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[...] it's important people know that Kyle's medication was found in his fathers truck when the police did their search. The Scientologist he called was Jerry Gentile who I believe is in charge of the CoS Special Affairs Dept.

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[...] it's important people know that Kyle's medication was found in his fathers truck when the police did their search. The Scientologist he called was Jerry Gentile who I believe is in charge of the CoS Special Affairs Dept.

Ya know..that is just plain criminal! I hope they get him for murder!


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Is details of how this happened available anywhere?

I seem to recall that I saw a post or article somewhere that said Kyle shot himself? - I'm unsure and I can't find that again for some reason. - If Kyle was dead when his father 'waited' 45 minutes calling 911, that's different than if he was still alive.

Also, he was missing at first: http://www.vsp.state.va.us/MissingPersons.shtm

The medicine being in the truck sounds like the father actively kept it from the boy. Knowing scientology, it is more than likely that Kyles father have been pestering him for years about the medicine. Acting like a perticularly vile SP and making the kid PTS actually (I'm using scienobabble here to bring a point home to the OSA lurkers).

$cientologys PR scene is NOT important! - Justifying a kids death to avoid a stupid PR flap! - No matter what Hubbard said.. That's WRONG!

Susan Meister: Shot through the head abord the Apollo. LRH was aboard that ship.. $cientology acting indiffernt, like they didn't give a shit! Threathening Susans father in an attempt to scare him from suing.

Lisa McPherson: Believing blindly in the 'tech' despite Lisa dying of thirst before you very eyes!? - Introspection RD.. To give her peace and quiet! - When it was obvious that she needed to get the hell away from SCIENTOLOGY!! - Which was the disturbing influence!!

Stacy Moxon: Depraved indifference caused her to be electrocuted. OSA fabricating shore stories. Was she ordered down in that vault as an ethics action? - If she was, did anyone tell her father?

Elli Perkins: Her son Jeremy killed her. Scientology auditing did not make Jeremy well. Feeding him vitamins in stead of 'psych drugs' didn't help him either! - And it certainly didn't help his mother!

There are many more examples: http://www.whyaretheydead.net

This kind of shit has to stop!


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Message from a relative of Kyle:
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[...] it's important people know that Kyle's medication was found in his fathers truck when the police did their search. The Scientologist he called was Jerry Gentile who I believe is in charge of the CoS Special Affairs Dept.



Jerry Gentile is the current husband of Denise Miscavige Covington
Licciardi Gentile.

Denise is DM's twin sister.


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Patty Pieniadz wrote:
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Message from a relative of Kyle:
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[...] it's important people know that Kyle's medication was found in his fathers truck when the police did their search. The Scientologist he called was Jerry Gentile who I believe is in charge of the CoS Special Affairs Dept.



Jerry Gentile is the current husband of Denise Miscavige Covington
Licciardi Gentile.

Denise is DM's twin sister.


Patty P



Holy shit.

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Message from a relative of Kyle:
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[...] it's important people know that Kyle's medication was found in his fathers truck when the police did their search. The Scientologist he called was Jerry Gentile who I believe is in charge of the CoS Special Affairs Dept.



Jerry Gentile is the current husband of Denise Miscavige Covington
Licciardi Gentile.

Denise is DM's twin sister.


Patty P


<sarcasm on> Wonderful! <sarcasm off>


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Holy shit indeed.
A woman named Diane Gentile (she pronounced it Gen-teel) was Reg at the Scn mission in Redondo Beach, CA some years back.
Anyone know whether she is related to Jerry Gentile?


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++++++++++Sacred Cult Scripture++++++++++++++++++++

"A psychiatrist today has the power to (1) take a fancy to a woman
(2) lead her to take wild treatment as a joke (3) drug and shock her to
temporary insanity (4) incarnate [sic] her (5) use her sexually (6)
sterilise her to prevent conception (7) kill her by a brain operation
to prevent disclosure. And all with no fear of reprisal. Yet it is rape
and murder... We want at least one bad mark on every psychiatrist in
England, a murder, an assault, or a rape or more than one... This is
Project Psychiatry. We will remove them."

- L. Ron Hubbard
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Confidential
22 February 1966
"Project Psychiatry"

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songbird wrote:
Holy shit indeed.
A woman named Diane Gentile (she pronounced it Gen-teel) was Reg at the Scn mission in Redondo Beach, CA some years back.
Anyone know whether she is related to Jerry Gentile?


I kind of doubt it.

Denise met Jerry at the WISE company called Digital Lightwave,
while she was still married to Sam Liccardi.

Jerry was a wog at the time.

Denise is very predatory when it comes to men. The first time she
met my husband (I was not present) she was wearing a short
tight leather skirt and a tight top. She walked up to Bobby
(my husband) and gave a a full kiss on the lips. My husband
was the D/ED of the Boston Org at the time and knew she
was DM's sister and didn't quite know what to make of it.

I told him it was her way of controlling men. I had heard stories
from other men that she had done similar things to them.


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Patty Pieniadz wrote:
Denise is very predatory when it comes to men. The first time she
met my husband (I was not present) she was wearing a short
tight leather skirt and a tight top. She walked up to Bobby
(my husband) and gave a a full kiss on the lips. My husband
was the D/ED of the Boston Org at the time and knew she
was DM's sister and didn't quite know what to make of it.

I told him it was her way of controlling men. I had heard stories
from other men that she had done similar things to them.



Wasn't there a Miscavige sister who supposedly left Scientology and became a prostitute? (I don't know if this is actually true or not.)

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Thanks, Patty.
This would have been many years ago. Since Gentile isn't a very common surname and CoS is a small, closed community - I thought that Jerry Gentile might perhaps, in the past, have been married to the Diane Gentile whom I knew.


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