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Patty Pieniadz wrote:
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The person who wrote the letter to Chuck Beatty may be
Ronnie and Bitty's child. I'm not sure on that tho.

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I was wondering about this, too. From reading what she said, I think it would have to be.

Also, she mentioned her brother Sterling.

This is the story I remember: Bitty used to be married to Sterling Tompson. She gave birth to twins.

Bitty and Sterling got divorced. Bitty kept one twin (whose name I don't remeber) and Sterling went with his father, who then married Barbara Mithoff. (She's the ex-wife of Ray Mithoff's brother. These guys are incestuous, aren't they? :D) Barbara raised Sterling as her own son.

The implications are interesting.

Number one, Jenna is the child of two people who were both extremely high up Scientology execs.

Ronnie was MEI (Marketing Exec Int) for years.

Bitty was basically DM's "right hand man". She was the one that implemented all of DM's "pet projects" in the 90s. Who was that guy who was right under Hitler? That was her.

Jenna says her parents have been out since the year 2000. That's news to me. Ronnie and Bitty have been SPs for 8 years?

Any info anyone out there has on all of this would be appreciated.

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No, Bitty was married to Foster Tompkins. Sterling is Bitty and Fosters' son.

Bitty and Foster divorced and she later married DM's older brother Ronnie Miscavige who was Marketing Exec Int for years. Ronnie and Bitty had two kids, Jenna and Justin. Sterling is her half-brother but like me, I call my half-sister my sister, because she is.

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No, Bitty was married to Foster Tompkins. Sterling is Bitty and Fosters' son.

Bitty and Foster divorced and she later married DM's older brother Ronnie Miscavige who was Marketing Exec Int for years. Ronnie and Bitty had two kids, Jenna and Justin. Sterling is her half-brother but like me, I call my half-sister my sister, because she is.


OH! Foster. That's who I meant.

Blonde moment. :)

Other than that, our stories match.

So, Jenna is Ronnie and Bitty's kid.

Any of you exes who were in the SO and remember these guys Back In The Day ...don't you see this as Poetic Justice?

Bitty and Ronnie's daughter causing an international PR flap for Scientology? :D

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Bitty was basically DM's "right hand man". She was the one that implemented all of DM's "pet projects" in the 90s. Who was that guy who was right under Hitler? That was her.


Hi lulu_belle,

That is Heinrich Himmler who you are thinking of who was Hitler's right hand man that implemented most of his führer's programs like the genocide to solve the "Jewish Problem" as they called it.

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Bitty was basically DM's "right hand man". She was the one that implemented all of DM's "pet projects" in the 90s. Who was that guy who was right under Hitler? That was her.


Hi lulu_belle,

That is Heinrich Himmler who you are thinking of who was Hitler's right hand man that implemented most of his führer's programs like the genocide to solve the "Jewish Problem" as they called it.



That was her.

She ran all of DM's bloody "evolutions" in the 90s.

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Bitty came through my office on several occasions. Not surprisingly, she came across as a royal bitch.

Also, hearing you say she was DM's right-hand-man makes sense. Being around her, I got the sense that whatever Bitty wanted, she got, and if someone pissed her off, she could have them RPFed.


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lulu_belle wrote:
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Any of you exes who were in the SO and remember these guys Back In The Day ...don't you see this as Poetic Justice?

Bitty and Ronnie's daughter causing an international PR flap for Scientology? :D


It's a beautiful thing!

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Its on DIGG'S and later today there will be a video of this letter in its entirety on Youtube!

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lulu_belle wrote:
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No, Bitty was married to Foster Tompkins. Sterling is Bitty and Fosters' son.

Bitty and Foster divorced and she later married DM's older brother Ronnie Miscavige who was Marketing Exec Int for years. Ronnie and Bitty had two kids, Jenna and Justin. Sterling is her half-brother but like me, I call my half-sister my sister, because she is.


OH! Foster. That's who I meant.

Blonde moment. :)

Other than that, our stories match.

So the thing about twins being split up is true? That's fucked up. Okay, okay, I know we are talking about people who do many things that are even more fucked-up than that. But still...I wonder how old they were when it happened.


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An ARS poster asked if Jenna actually wrote the letter and if she was aware that it was made public.

(Good question, IMO.)

This is Chuck Beatty's response:

Mary,

Yes, Jenna knows,and Jenna is now in contact with at least one
journalist. Andrew's seen her letter and hopefully there will be a
news story Monday.

Jenna has made herself contactable and confirmed her letter.

Chuck


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.reli ... 15f?hl=en&


I am still quite shocked about this.

I know Chuck had said in a different thread that Ronnie and Bitty helped Rinder for a while after he blew.

But I am really surprised to see anyone in the family go "public" in this way.

The ramiifcations will be very interesting to see.

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moontaco wrote:
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So the thing about twins being split up is true? That's fucked up. Okay, okay, I know we are talking about people who do many things that are even more fucked-up than that. But still...I wonder how old they were when it happened.



You know...I don't know. I was told the twins story by someone in the family a long time ago.

But another ex who knows the family history didn't say there were twins.

So, I'm trying to get it cleared up. It's possible that I'm mistaken.

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So the thing about twins being split up is true? That's fucked up. Okay, okay, I know we are talking about people who do many things that are even more fucked-up than that. But still...I wonder how old they were when it happened.



It was just verified by someone at ESMB that my recollection is accurate.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.p ... #post59771

Just so you know - yes Sterling and Justin were twins - I was there when they were born. They are both Foster and Bitty's kids - Jenna is Ronnie Miscaviges daughter with Bitty. So half sister to Sterling and Justin - boys were separated when young - one went with Foster and one went with Bitty.

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This is an excerpt from a post from Chuck Beatty on ARS:

Dear Mary,

I heard from several people, people I trust, who stated they called
Bitty, and asked Bitty point blank about Rinder "being with Ronnie and
Bitty" and these two persons stated their impression was that Rinder
had either visited or stayed with Ronnie and Bitty at some point.

What I meant to convey in my recent post was that AFTER Mike was out,
that at some point he visited or stayed with Ronnie and Bitty.

I have heard subsequently that Mike's first contact once he
"blew" (escaped unauthorized) was to call his old friend/colleauge in
Florida, Tom DeVocht. Tom was working as car salesman, and I've heard
that Mike is doing the same.

Little Bear Victor, please go through his posts, he and blownforgood
have talked on the Mike Rinder and Tom DeVocht friendship
relationship.

http://tinyurl.com/2qvxwu Little Bear Vicotr's posts on Clambake
http://tinyurl.com/2k2pco blownforgood's posts on Clambake
http://tinyurl.com/24uq3d BTstoFree's posts on Clambake.

There is excellent unprecedented historical material within these 3
men's above posts on Clambake!

I recommend people periodically read these three men's Clambake and
ESMB posts of these people!

Also, ex Sea Org members can go onto XSO chat site and ask questions
of the former Dir of Inspections and Reports of CMO Int!

Things are OPENING UP. Jenna wishing her letter to get picked up and
publicized is REAL.

The latest on Mike is he's working car sales with his former friend/
colleague Tom DeVocht.

I hope Mike finds his feet as a normal citizen again. It takes time
to unwind from Scientology, especially the top ranks administrators
who are entrusted with executing the FULL lineup of Hubbard's ideas/
rules.

I personally hope the younger generation like Jenna, also inspire
their parents, like Mike's generation, to over time speak up on the
record. (Realize Mike is a second generation Scientologist himself,
so Jenna is 3rd generation "Sea Org" offspring essentially!)

Tom DeVocht is a well liked good friend and long term colleague of
MOST of the ex top Scientology leaders. I don't know a single person
who has anything bad to say about Tom, he's a good guy.

There are some truly good nice people who suffered through a LOT of
bullshit in their decades of duty in the Sea Org.

That Mike chose Tom DeVocht as the first person to contact, upon
leaving, is important.


http://tinyurl.com/38gz33

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chuck b. on ARS wrote:
I have heard subsequently that Mike's first contact once he
"blew" (escaped unauthorized) was to call his old friend/colleauge in
Florida, Tom DeVocht.
Tom was working as a car salesman, and I've heard that Mike is doing the same.
.....................................Image

That is one used car lot worth seeking out and visiting, IMO.

Perfect oppurtunity for Shawn Lonsdale or some other (hidden) camera-carrying SP to go shopping for a new car and take a test spin!

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Roan wrote:
chuck b. on ARS wrote:
I have heard subsequently that Mike's first contact once he
"blew" (escaped unauthorized) was to call his old friend/colleauge in
Florida, Tom DeVocht.
Tom was working as a car salesman, and I've heard that Mike is doing the same.
.....................................Image

That is one used car lot worth seeking out and visiting, IMO.

Perfect oppurtunity for Shawn Lonsdale or some other (hidden) camera-carrying SP to go shopping for a new car and take a test spin!

Image



This is being followed up on.

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