I hate to quote Hubbard, but he says it so lovely for David Miscavige (from Introduction to Scientology Ethics book):



David Miscavige... you'd better bring a big container of vaseline, 'cause you're gonna need it.

You know what the cult's defense will be?
"The terrorist sent us a DVD in the mail as well posting the youtube thing".
Cross examination of their last ditch defence: So, why didn't you mention this before, like in the injunction and in the dead-agent letters?. Quite an important bonus which would have been worth mentioning and presenting as evidence if you were intending to sound more convincing, especially to a judge, don't ya think?
Your Honour, we request a recess. I've just shit my pants.

Lawyer, Helena Kobrin, of Moxon & Kobrin Attorneys at Law acting as counsel for the Church of Scientology was sanctioned with $17,775 in fines for barratry in 1994. Filing a frivolous complaint in a federal court. It is very serious and can in fact be be a jailable offense.
I'm not sure what the fine/sentence is for doing the same in a civil county court but eitherway it isn't going to be something you'd want to have framed and hung up in the Law office reception area.
So, maybe the cult's Clearwater lawyers in this case will now have to disown the cult and plead ignorance as a matter of survival. They will obvioisly not want to risk any chance of seeming to be complicit in the manufacture of a fake terrorist threat.

As for the cult itself. Well, that depends on what else the FBI turns up and how far they want to go with the fake terrorist thing. The minimum is a jail term for those that ordered it or knew about it but did nothing.
Whatever, they certainly need to get that old fart Heber out of there before the motherfucking dwarf has him suicided.

QFT: WTM - 5000 internetz for you

Ok this made my morning. Im lost for words, i need a new word for
STUPIDITY! The only reason people stay in OSA is because they are
to stupid to open a door.

Can someone point me to another thread where this has been confirmed? Perhaps over at enturb?

I need verification, and then I'll be updating my flyer.

A YouTube I made on the letter.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkdGBHiKP5E

Production by RWT and writing inspired by J. Swift.

Wow, I'm not on that forum, but if anyone knows that kid or his/her parent, please ask them to post a description of the guy who claimed to be from the sheriff's dept!

A few months ago my house was rather obviously being watched by a guy in a car across the street. When I went out to talk with him, he drove away. I followed him in my car, and eventually we spoke.

He told me he was a "law enforcement officer" and flashed a badge that looked like it came from the toy section at the drugstore. He refused to show it to me again even after I asked, and wouldn't give me his name nor the branch of "law enforcement" he was with, only saying "the County." He wouldn't even answer WHICH county, Hillsborough, Pinellas, Pasco...?

I filed a police report on this guy. They really didn't like how he tried to pass himself off as a cop. Really. Didn't. Like. Later, when I got home, it was obvious someone had been snooping around the outside of our house peeking in windows and such.

Anyway, after the Feb 10 picket, I saw a pic of the same guy, who I am sure was a PI [my dad was a PI, dammit, and this guy was the kind of PI who would make my dad's blood boil because he gives a bad name to all PIs], posted with some Clearwater Feb 10 pix. It was titled "Scruffy PI" at least for awhile. I snagged the pic and have it on another computer that is frustratingly not here right now.

I would LOVE to know if this is the same guy who was at my house!
It had been a long time since I did any picketing, and a long time since I had a visit from a Scientology PI before he showed up.

Maggie--this is the Scruffy PI pic that was linked on ARS--

Pardon my ignorance, but how did they legally get all these names and addresses from the county automobile registration database? Is that information just open to the public, or did they have to file paperwork to obtain the information?

If someone cuts me off in traffic, can I take down their plate number and simply go get their name and address? That is a freaking SCARY scenario.

It depends on state laws, which vary. Some states are more protective of privacy than others. But ultimately, I think if you have PIs working for you, you can get a whole lot of information that the general public can't get.

I'm not a law expert by any means, but I'm pretty sure all of that information is confidential. If state and local governments won't hand out the addresses and phone numbers of convicted sex offenders I'm pretty sure it's illegal to disseminate information from the DMV.

I had a temp job for the VA once and was given access to it's rather primitive database for administrative purposes (i.e. taking leave and sick days etc.). I also had the same access every VA employee had to their files, even the night janitors could log on and use a name or S.S. number and pull up a patients medical history and any veterans service record. Using your access like this is grounds for termination but it goes on all the time.

The DMV and other government agencies all can be abused this way. It takes a lot of man-hours to figure out where a leak came from and the agencies themselves are responsible for policing their own employees. It's kind of like the Frank Serpico story where corruption investigations were handled in their own chains of command. So if the chain of command is corrupt, which is almost always the case, the bad guys prosper and justice is undone.

I remeber watching an American Justice episode where a man witnessed a hit-man in Chicago murder his neighbor. The man had to move his entire family into hotel room for over a year before the trial started. When he testified in court the judge presided over the case instead of a jury and the judge called the man a free-loading bum and a liar and the case was dismissed. It completely ruined the witnesses life.
Later on, the hit-man's lawyer was convicted of an unrelated crime and came clean about all his dirty practices. In the above case he bought off the judge for $10,000. If a judge can be bought so cheaply I can't imagine how cheaply a DMV clerk or cop can be bought off.

How about full body amputation.

flippantmage

I work for the government on about the same scale as a DMV employee. We have 4 passwords before we are even fully logged into our computers. The janitors do not have access to computers. And if they (using the word 'they' as anyone who would not have express need to access personal info) did get access to a computer, they would not possess the passwords to get in to the necessary programs.

That said, it would not stop an unscrupulous employee, who did have access, from getting personal information. However, every action taken on our computers is logged by our systems dept.

Someone's info is compromised? Ok who last accessed that person? Really not very hard to track down the offender.

Now the VA is another story all together.

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Quote:

When a person finds himself committing too many harmful acts against the dynamics, he becomes his own executioner.

When he finds himself committing too many evils, then, causatively, unconsciously or unwittingly, man puts ethics in on himself by destroying himself; and he does himself in without assistance from anybody else.

This is why the criminal leaves clues on the scene ...

The criminal who leaves clues behind is doing so in hopes that someone will come along to stop him from continuing to harm others. ... in the absence of an ability to stop himself outright, he attempts to put ethics in on himself by getting thrown in prison where he will no longer be able to commit crimes.

This is only true when the person doing the crimes has a conscience.

Those without a conscience manipulate those who do have a conscience by using their conscience against them. Hubbard did/does this all the time.

F. Wallace Pope, Jr., was the lead attorney on the Scientology side in the Lisa McPherson case.

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/arti ... eBoys.html

Check about half-way down in the article.

He and his firm have done alot of work for scn including the recent requests for injuctions against today's protests.