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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:19 pm 
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A YouTube I made on the letter.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkdGBHiKP5E

Production by RWT and writing inspired by J. Swift.


Thank you and :lol: that was the icing on my cake for today.

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And the Black PR continues...
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Tsar von Humbug wrote:
Can someone point me to another thread where this has been confirmed? Perhaps over at enturb?

I need verification, and then I'll be updating my flyer.


Here ya go, RWT... Enjoy the delicious caek!

http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtop ... =12&t=7112

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In addition to Scientology, It looks like this law firm in Clearwater also represents other scam artists: This found with a quick Google search
re on going Florida Real Estate loan scam investigation:

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/mar/06 ... ual-loans/

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"Over a week's period, the Tribune left numerous messages for the lawyer who represented Daniele in July, Ryan Griffin, of Johnson, Pope, Boker, Ruppel & Burns in Clearwater. On Wednesday, Griffin indicated he would like to comment about the story but did not provide his comment in time for publication. Daniele, who runs Titan Development Group LLC, told the Tribune in July that there was nothing wrong with his business practices. He blamed buyers for failing to manage their investment properties"

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/jul/29 ... g-fingers/

Also, some editorial comment from a Florida newspaper which is
not too complimentary of the law firm's ethical standards:

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/arti ... eBoys.html


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Thank you hartley! Every way that everyone can stick these constant stupid actions of COB miscavige and his cronies back into their faces is great. They make a stupid misstep (a daily occurance nowadays) and there are countless blogs, forums and youtube videos exposing it!!!! What an unprecedented time it is right now!


WTM I'm afraid you keep mistaking Tsar and I because of our avatars. This is my fault because he had his first (they are somewhat different though) but I like mine also because I have hubbard popping pinks & grays (I like his hubbard posits Mr. Hankey). I think of mine as the "process" and his the "result".

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RealityWillTell wrote:
WTM I'm afraid you keep mistaking Tsar and I because of our avatars. This is my fault because he had his first (they are somewhat different though) but I like mine also because I have hubbard popping pinks & grays (I like his hubbard posits Mr. Hankey). I think of mine as the "process" and his the "result".


You're right, and my bad for not noticing... Therefore, both our faults. :D

I just have to drill it in... Tsar: The one with the turd, the one with the turd, the one with the turd... xD

Anyway, I'm sure you'll eat this wonderful, gourmet, delicios devils food cake caek! Eat it up, and if you see anything that can, uhhh.. "improve the recipe".. Let us all know! :D

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Pardon my ignorance, but how did they legally get all these names and addresses from the county automobile registration database? Is that information just open to the public, or did they have to file paperwork to obtain the information?

If someone cuts me off in traffic, can I take down their plate number and simply go get their name and address? That is a freaking SCARY scenario.

It depends on state laws, which vary. Some states are more protective of privacy than others. But ultimately, I think if you have PIs working for you, you can get a whole lot of information that the general public can't get.


I'm not a law expert by any means, but I'm pretty sure all of that information is confidential. If state and local governments won't hand out the addresses and phone numbers of convicted sex offenders I'm pretty sure it's illegal to disseminate information from the DMV.


I have never done a license plate lookup, but I after reading your post I was curious enough about it to Google for information. Right away I turned up online companies that say they will do license plate lookups. Like I said, I haven't used them, so I don't know how reliable they are. But I did look closely at the site of one of them, Docusearch.com, where I found a notice about something called the DPAA (Driver's Privacy Protection Act):

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DPPA Restrictions

Statewide Vehicle Ownership By Plate Or VIN:

Pursuant to the Driver's Privacy Protection Act of 1994 (DPPA), you may only access this data for one of the following permitted uses:

1. Use by a court, law enforcement agency or other government agency.
2. Use for any matter of motor vehicle or driver safety or theft to inform an owner of a towed or impounded vehicle; or by an employer or insurer to obtain or verify information relating to a holder of a commercial driver's license.
3. Use in the normal course of business, to verify the accuracy of personal information submitted by the individual to the business and, if the submitted information is incorrect, to obtain correct information, but only for the purpose of preventing fraud by, or pursuing legal remedies against, the individual.
4. Use in connection with a civil, criminal, administrative, or arbitral proceeding.
5. Use in research or in producing statistical reports, but only if the personal information is not published, re-disclosed, or used to contact any individual.
6. Use by an insurer or insurance support organization, in connection with claims investigation activities, anti-fraud activities, rating or underwriting.
7. For any other use if the motor vehicle department has provided a notice that personal information may be disclosed to any business or person and has provided an opportunity to prohibit such disclosures.
8. Use by a licensed private investigative agency or licensed security service for a purpose permitted in items 1 through 7 above.
9. Written consent of individual. Copy of signed consent must be faxed to Docusearch prior to the request being filled. (888) 467-5995.

You will be required to select one of the above options when placing your order. By inputting your response, you hereby certify to Docusearch that you are in, and assume full responsibility for, compliance with the DPPA and you agree to indemnify, defend and hold Docusearch harmless from any breach of the DPPA by you, your agents or contractors and any damages, fees and costs associated therewith. Information from this file may not be used to determine a consumer's eligibility for credit, insurance or employment, pursuant to the Fair Credit Reporting Act, (15 U.S.C. Sec 1681)


In other words, Docusearch will give you the info as long as you swear that you need it for a valid reason (and pay for it)!

By the way, I don't know about phone numbers, but I am pretty sure many if not all states provide addresses of sex offenders. One place I found with info is here.


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moontaco wrote:
In other words, Docusearch will give you the info as long as you swear that you need it for a valid reason (and pay for it)!


(Emphasis mine)

Now, why did I read that company name as Douchesearch at first? :twisted:

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They made PACKAGING for the DVD? And labels? WTF????


Good point. They must be so TOTALLY terrified.

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Hi all! First time post for me here. Been lurking about for a bit but this thread really got my ire up.

Since Co$s lawyers are obviously involved with this whole scam as evidenced by the Letter the OP received, can they not in turn be held legally responsible?

The letter specifically states "..because an unidentified person with Florida plate number XXXXX was seen at.."

This is what bugs me. If the person was "Unidentified" how then do you implicate that person with the Tags? And then go on to basically warn you, the owner of the car, about their activities?

I know this is a major foot bullet on Co$s part...but something really stinks.

Call me paranoid, but I smell a trap.


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RealityWillTell wrote:
A YouTube I made on the letter.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkdGBHiKP5E

Production by RWT and writing inspired by J. Swift.


Thank you and :lol: that was the icing on my cake for today.


I'll second that. Inspired! Thanks RWT

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DSAnon wrote:
Hi all! First time post for me here. Been lurking about for a bit but this thread really got my ire up.

Since Co$s lawyers are obviously involved with this whole scam as evidenced by the Letter the OP received, can they not in turn be held legally responsible?

The letter specifically states "..because an unidentified person with Florida plate number XXXXX was seen at.."

This is what bugs me. If the person was "Unidentified" how then do you implicate that person with the Tags? And then go on to basically warn you, the owner of the car, about their activities?

I know this is a major foot bullet on Co$s part...but something really stinks.

Call me paranoid, but I smell a trap.


Here's a bit of comparison for you: There are places with "red light cameras"... they are automated cameras at intersections that snap a pic when a traffic light turns red to catch plates of drivers running red lights. You never know which ones are active or at which times, and thus, they act as a deterrent for those thinking of running reds where these cameras are placed.

The evidence from footage taken from these cameras is used to generate citations. However, the shots are such that the driver cannot be identified, thus the registered owner of the vehicle is issued the citation, regardless of if they were present and in control of the vehicle at the time/location or not. If the registered owner loaned the vehicle to a friend and that friend incurred the citation, that's between the owner and friend to battle it out over who's going to pay the fine stemming from the pic.

Bottom line; the registered owner (R.O.) is held responsible and legally liable for any and all traffic infractions committed with the vehicle while it's in possession of any other party. If registered owner gets screwed over, they have to settle the fine themselves and then persue their pal in a civil suit after. The basis of this, is that the R.O. is supposed to have good enough judgment of character to determine if someone is trustworthy and responsible enough to operate the motor vehicle they own in their name. If the R.O and buddy are at a party and buddy is too snockered to drive and wants to borrow the R.O.'s car, the R.O. needs to make the responsible judgment to NOT let buddy behind the wheel, as the R.O. will be held accountable for allowing buddy to operate their car under the influence if they kill someone.

So, in the instance of the letter/DVD issuance, it's a deterrent. It would deter the parent from allowing the son/daughter from using the vehicle again in conjunction with the implied threat of legal action.

It's all bullshit, and I can see how the less legally savvy would fall for such dogshit.

Hope this clears it up some....

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Thank you for the clarification!


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DSAnon wrote:
Thank you for the clarification!


What bugs me is that it is an unidentified person, but Pope's letter refers to a son, daughter or relative. Why not assume the owner of the car was driving it?

Why mention a relative at all?

That could be construed as a veiled threat.

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Great point magitad!


Thank you Sponge. You've been creating some great stuff too!! I love all of the entheta that has spread like wildfire recently!

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