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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Thu May 08, 2008 1:58 am

"How reliable is this Carolinetkeman site?"

The Caroline Letkeman site is the real deal.

Caroline's site rocks!

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Post by J. Swift » Thu May 08, 2008 6:31 am

Peter, thank you for your research and work. What you have linked to appears to be accurate information. There is no controversy surrounding Burmese Cats and so the information that Commander Thompson was a US Navy doctor is confirmed by a neutral source. Thank you, Cat Breeders and Cat Fanciers. Your love of Cats has helped a way that you do not know. BTW, CATS also means "Citizens for an Alternative Tax," a group that includes many Scientologists:

http://www.cats.org/www/index_main.php?id=1

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Here are some inferences on LRH:

1. LRH's father was a US Navy Officer: Lt. Cmdr. Harry Ross. This would have made LRH eligible for medical and psychiatric treatment in US Navy hospitals as a dependent of an officer.

2. Commander Snake Thompson, so Scientology's shore story goes, taught the twelve year old LRH Freudian psychotherapy. In my theory, LRH was a psychiatric patient of Commander Dr. Thompson at a US Naval Hospital in Washington D.C.

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3. Now comes a document into my possession which shows that LRH debarked the SS Caomo on August 29, 1932. The ship had left San Juan, Puerto Rico on August 25, 1932 and sailed to the Port of New York where LRH debarked. The passenger list of US Citizens shows LRH's home address in the US to be the US Naval Hospital in Washington D.C.

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LRH was in the US Marines in this period and so would have qualified for government hospitalization and/or the psychiatric care of the time which could range from bed rest, therapy, medicine, to a full-fledged lobotomy. When Hubbard was honorably discharged from the US Marines, there was an explicit order in his discharge papers that he was to never again be allowed back into the Marines. Had LRH been involved in some salacious barracks hanky-panky, or was it worse? Why was he living in the US Naval Hospital? A note to people outside of America: The US Marines are considered to be part of the US Navy. Thus, LRH was in the Naval Hospital for whatever reason in 1932.

Question: Why was LRH living in a US Naval Hospital in 1932?

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The following year, LRH once again sailed on the SS Caomo from San Juan, Puerto Rico on April 6, 1933. He listed his home address as P.O. Box 6, Beallsville, Maryland. Beallsville is very near Bethesda Naval Hospital.

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Post by peter » Thu May 08, 2008 7:29 am

caroline wrote:I'm thrilled you're onto this Peter. Iirc, Os mentioned an interest in Snake Thompson too. Anyway, I think it'd be really great for everyone to consolidate our research.

I have a few more pages to add for now:

Book: [...] selected papers of Clara M. Thompson

Lecture: The Story of Dianetics and Scientology

Lecture: Dianetics The Modern Miracle
Soderqvist1: I am glad that you appreciate my research!
I have found something here you should read!
Those of us who have read Dianetics: Modern Science of Mental Health and Hubbard's obsession with pregnant women, knitting needles and attempted abortions will recognize some oddly similar sentiments in the excerpt below. Commander Joseph Thompson was a Freudian analyst, and Hubbard's alleged tutor.

U.S. Naval Medical Bulletin, Vol XXI, December 1924 No. 6. (Copyright unknown)
The Psychoanalyst And His Work by J. C. Thompson, Commander, Medical Corps,United States Navy<start quote>
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/tmp/SNAKE.TXT
Soderqvist1: I have also found Commander Thompson's last paper as mentioned in my last message, on Oxford Journal!
JOURNAL OF HEREDITY GENETICS OF THE BURMESE CAT
THOMPSON et al. J Hered.1943; 34: 119-123
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/34/4/119

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Post by ZenuEtrawl » Thu May 08, 2008 8:07 am

J. Swift wrote: Question: Why was LRH living in a US Naval Hospital in 1932?
Interesting question, that's the beginning of a period where we don't know much.

This would have been his return from the miserable mess that was the "Caribbean Motion Picture Expedition," and coincided with his dropping out of college. It's been suggested that he may have amassed quite a bit of debt with the failed expedition, so there are all sorts of possibilities. Stress/breakdown? Fleeing from creditors? One of his frequent attacks of hypochondria?

The next highly suspect news we have of him is his doing the minerological survey of the Carribbean, which was apparently carried out by one Bela Hubbard, not LRH. The more mundane version of the facts has him maybe writing some crummy little article like "Navy Pets," and getting together with Polly, who he would marry in Elkton, MD in April '33.

Anyway... great question!

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Post by caroline » Thu May 08, 2008 6:40 pm

Those of us who have read Dianetics: Modern Science of Mental Health and Hubbard's obsession with pregnant women, knitting needles and attempted abortions will recognize some oddly similar sentiments in the excerpt below. Commander Joseph Thompson was a Freudian analyst, and Hubbard's alleged tutor.

U.S. Naval Medical Bulletin, Vol XXI, December 1924 No. 6. (Copyright unknown)
The Psychoanalyst And His Work by J. C. Thompson, Commander, Medical Corps,United States Navy<start quote>
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/tmp/SNAKE.TXT
Soderqvist1: I have also found Commander Thompson's last paper as mentioned in my last message, on Oxford Journal!
JOURNAL OF HEREDITY GENETICS OF THE BURMESE CAT
THOMPSON et al. J Hered.1943; 34: 119-123
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/34/4/119
Cool. I have photocopies of these documents which I obtained some years ago from a research service:

Thompson, J. C. C., Medical Corps, United States Navy (1924). "The Psychoanalyst And His Work." U.S. Naval Medical Bulletin Vol. XXI(No. 6): 787-797.

Thompson, J. C. C., Medical Corps, United States Navy (1924). ""Tropical Neurasthenia": A Deprivation Psychoneurosis." The Military Surgeon Vol. 54: 319-327.

Thompson, J. C. C., Medical Corps, United States Navy (1923). "Psychoanalytic Literature." U.S. Naval Medical Bulletin Vol. XIX(No. 3): 281-285.

Thompson, J. C. C., Medical Corps, United States Navy (1924). "Desertion: Observations Of A Psychoanalyst." The Military Surgeon Vol. 53: 319-327.

Sun, J. T. (1923). "Symbolism In The Chinese Written Language." Psychoanalytic Review Vol. 10: 183-189.

Sun, J. T. (1924). "Psychology In Primitive Buddhism." Psychoanalytic Review Vol. 11: 39-47.

Sun, J. T. (1924). "Symbolism In The Sumerian Written Language." Psychoanalytic Review Vol. 11: 263-276.

Maybe we could have a consensus on the best way to archive these documents publicly. I have a Canon 8800f scanner, Acrobat 6.0 Pro, Photoshop 7, and Abbyy 8.0 Pro. And limited time. :wink:

William Alanson White published the Psychoanalytic Review. Thompson and White would have known each other from 1918, when Snake Thompson was at St. Elizabeths. White was Superintendent of St. Elizabeths from 1903 until his death in 1937. He also taught at GWU.

According to Hubbard's lecture accounts, White and Thompson were also very involved during the time Hubbard was going to GWU and before.

Have you seen this page re: Hubbard's early education?
INTELLIGENCE SPECIALIST TRAINING ROUTINE – TR L
Purpose: To train the student to give a false statement with good TR-1. To train the student to outflow false data effectively.
Commands: Part l “Tell me a lie”.

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Post by caroline » Fri May 09, 2008 12:13 am

J. Swift wrote:Peter, thank you for your research and work. What you have linked to appears to be accurate information. There is no controversy surrounding Burmese Cats and so the information that Commander Thompson was a US Navy doctor is confirmed by a neutral source. Thank you, Cat Breeders and Cat Fanciers. Your love of Cats has helped a way that you do not know.
Yes. Also, Hubbard claimed Thompson taught him how to train cats. And in NSOL mentioned a Hindu who could hypnotize cats.

Interestingly, Hubbard claimed to use a Hindu hypnoscope.
INTELLIGENCE SPECIALIST TRAINING ROUTINE – TR L
Purpose: To train the student to give a false statement with good TR-1. To train the student to outflow false data effectively.
Commands: Part l “Tell me a lie”.

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Post by peter » Fri May 09, 2008 8:18 am

caroline wrote:
Those of us who have read Dianetics: Modern Science of Mental Health and Hubbard's obsession with pregnant women, knitting needles and attempted abortions will recognize some oddly similar sentiments in the excerpt below. Commander Joseph Thompson was a Freudian analyst, and Hubbard's alleged tutor.

U.S. Naval Medical Bulletin, Vol XXI, December 1924 No. 6. (Copyright unknown)
The Psychoanalyst And His Work by J. C. Thompson, Commander, Medical Corps,United States Navy<start quote>
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/tmp/SNAKE.TXT
Soderqvist1: I have also found Commander Thompson's last paper as mentioned in my last message, on Oxford Journal!
JOURNAL OF HEREDITY GENETICS OF THE BURMESE CAT
THOMPSON et al. J Hered.1943; 34: 119-123
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/34/4/119
Cool. I have photocopies of these documents which I obtained some years ago from a research service:

Thompson, J. C. C., Medical Corps, United States Navy (1924). "The Psychoanalyst And His Work." U.S. Naval Medical Bulletin Vol. XXI(No. 6): 787-797.

Thompson, J. C. C., Medical Corps, United States Navy (1924). ""Tropical Neurasthenia": A Deprivation Psychoneurosis." The Military Surgeon Vol. 54: 319-327.

Thompson, J. C. C., Medical Corps, United States Navy (1923). "Psychoanalytic Literature." U.S. Naval Medical Bulletin Vol. XIX(No. 3): 281-285.

Thompson, J. C. C., Medical Corps, United States Navy (1924). "Desertion: Observations Of A Psychoanalyst." The Military Surgeon Vol. 53: 319-327.

Sun, J. T. (1923). "Symbolism In The Chinese Written Language." Psychoanalytic Review Vol. 10: 183-189.

Sun, J. T. (1924). "Psychology In Primitive Buddhism." Psychoanalytic Review Vol. 11: 39-47.

Sun, J. T. (1924). "Symbolism In The Sumerian Written Language." Psychoanalytic Review Vol. 11: 263-276.

Maybe we could have a consensus on the best way to archive these documents publicly. I have a Canon 8800f scanner, Acrobat 6.0 Pro, Photoshop 7, and Abbyy 8.0 Pro. And limited time. :wink:
Soderqvist1: That together with information from links from this topic, into a informal history about thompson's life, and work would be fantastic!
William Alanson White published the Psychoanalytic Review. Thompson and White would have known each other from 1918, when Snake Thompson was at St. Elizabeths. White was Superintendent of St. Elizabeths from 1903 until his death in 1937. He also taught at GWU.

According to Hubbard's lecture accounts, White and Thompson were also very involved during the time Hubbard was going to GWU and before.
Soderqvist1; yes, and Thompson;

By Ann-Louise S. Silver, MD
In 1924, he became vice-president of the Washington Psychoanalytic Association (William Alanson White was president). Three papers are under the name of Joe Tom Sun from Guam, appearing in The Psychoanalytic Review,edited by William Alanson White and Smith Ely Jelliffe of New York City.
http://aapdp.org/forum/forum43_1.html#4312

Soderqvist1: Yes!

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Post by peter » Fri May 09, 2008 8:40 am

caroline wrote:
J. Swift wrote:Peter, thank you for your research and work. What you have linked to appears to be accurate information. There is no controversy surrounding Burmese Cats and so the information that Commander Thompson was a US Navy doctor is confirmed by a neutral source. Thank you, Cat Breeders and Cat Fanciers. Your love of Cats has helped a way that you do not know.
Yes. Also, Hubbard claimed Thompson taught him how to train cats. And in NSOL mentioned a Hindu who could hypnotize cats.

Interestingly, Hubbard claimed to use a Hindu hypnoscope.
A PIECE OF BLUE SKY Fair Game, Ethics and the Scriptures
Scientologists forget that he was not only a science fiction writer, but also a competent hypnotist. A very competent hypnotist.
http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/bs9-3.htm

BARE-FACED MESSIAH CHAPTER 8 PAGE 140
Ron demonstrated a surprising talent as a hypnotist with a repertoire of parlour tricks. He hypnotised almost everyone in the clubroom: one young man looked at his hand with utter astonishment, convinced he was holding a pair of miniature kangaroos in his palm; another rapidly removed his shoes when he felt the floor getting hot and a third spent a hysterically funny ten minutes on an imaginary telephone trying to fend off a persistent and non-existent car salesman.

It was probable that Hubbard had learned hypnosis from Jack Parsons and he appeared to have no difficulty inducing hypnotic trances - all he needed to do, with some people, was count to three and snap his fingers. But he sometimes forgot to bring a subject out of hypnosis. He told Cox's younger brother, Bill, that he would fall asleep every time he (Hubbard) scratched his nose. Under hypnosis, Bill dutifully obeyed. But later in the evening Hubbard absent-mindedly scratched his nose while he was standing in the centre of a group of fans and Bill Cox instantly collapsed, fortunately falling into the arms of Forrest Ackerman, who was standing behind him.
http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/bfm/bfm08.htm

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Post by caroline » Sun May 11, 2008 7:27 pm

J. Swift wrote:3. Now comes a document into my possession which shows that LRH debarked the SS Caomo on August 29, 1932. The ship had left San Juan, Puerto Rico on August 25, 1932 and sailed to the Port of New York where LRH debarked. The passenger list of US Citizens shows LRH's home address in the US to be the US Naval Hospital in Washington D.C.

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LRH was in the US Marines in this period and so would have qualified for government hospitalization and/or the psychiatric care of the time which could range from bed rest, therapy, medicine, to a full-fledged lobotomy. When Hubbard was honorably discharged from the US Marines, there was an explicit order in his discharge papers that he was to never again be allowed back into the Marines. Had LRH been involved in some salacious barracks hanky-panky, or was it worse? Why was he living in the US Naval Hospital? A note to people outside of America: The US Marines are considered to be part of the US Navy. Thus, LRH was in the Naval Hospital for whatever reason in 1932.

Question: Why was LRH living in a US Naval Hospital in 1932?

*****
The following year, LRH once again sailed on the SS Caomo from San Juan, Puerto Rico on April 6, 1933. He listed his home address as P.O. Box 6, Beallsville, Maryland. Beallsville is very near Bethesda Naval Hospital.

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Spelling: The SS Coamo: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~prhgs/photo_25.htm

Harry Ross Hubbard, of course, was connected to the Navy in Washington, DC.

I suppose L R Hubbard's GWU records provide an address or addresses where he resided during that period.

The Caribbean Motion Picture Expedition was a disaster and Hubbard was being threatened with lawsuits. "U.S. Naval Hospital Washington DC" doesn't give a process server much of a lead. Later of course, after he was back in the States, he would counter-threaten. That's been his legal mo ever since.

He was not above playing the sympathy card, so maybe he got on board the Coamo by being crippled and blinded. Do you have an image of the page with the date on it? Miller states: "Ron arrived back in Washington, DC in February 1933."

It's well known he married Polly April 13 1933. If the Coamo departed San Juan, Puerto Rico on April 6 it would take about 4 days to get to New York. Ron the Whirlwind had to get Polly to the altar in three days.

He may have gone back to Puerto Rico to pick up his gold pan, I don't know. But certainly the February 1933 to April 1933 discrepancy is not resolved.

Was Polly pregnant?
INTELLIGENCE SPECIALIST TRAINING ROUTINE – TR L
Purpose: To train the student to give a false statement with good TR-1. To train the student to outflow false data effectively.
Commands: Part l “Tell me a lie”.

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Symbolism In The Sumerian Written Language by Joe Tom Sun

Post by caroline » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:34 pm

I am posting this article by Commander Joseph Cheesman "Snake" Thompson in the public interest. It evidences his interest in the occult, as well as the effort to make Sumerian symbolism relevant in the psychoanalytic community.
The Psychoanalytic Review Volume XI Issue 3 July 1924 wrote: Image
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THE
PSYCHOANALYTIC REVIEW

A Journal Devoted to an Understanding of Human Conduct
edited and published by WILLIAM A. WHITE, M.D.
AND
SMITH ELY JELLIFFE, M.D.

VOLUME XI
1924

WASHINGTON, D. C.
3617 10th Street, N. W.
1924

THE PSYCHOANALYTIC REVIEW

A JOURNAL DEVOTED TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF HUMAN CONDUCT
Volume XI July, 1924 Number 3
241

[...]

SYMBOLISM IN THE SUMERIAN WRITTEN LANGUAGE
By Joe Tom Sun
GUAM, PACIFIC OCEAN

In antiquity there was a group of people living in Eastern Persia who to-day are called the Sumerians. It is believed that they were of Ural-Altaic stock and it is known that they spoke an agglutinative language.

At a period which the consensus of archeological evidence places at about 6,000 years B.C. these people entered the lower stretches of the valley of the Euphrates, where they built cities and entered upon some of the earliest pages of human history.

To the philologist their writing is of especial interest owing to the fact that it exhibits the complete gamut of the various stages of evolution through which a script may pass. It contains to begin with the pictogram, followed by the ideogram and the phonogram, with a few of the latter developing into strictly alphabetic signs.

In the earliest Sumerian writing a word was indicated purely by a crude picture of the idea it was intended to convey. Later, owing to the use of clay tablets which were inscribed with a pointed stilus, each word-picture became disintegrated into a series of little wedge-shaped strokes. This manner of thought recording is known as Cuneiform Writing, and subsequent to its invention by the Sumerians it was adopted by the Assyrians and Babylonians. These gifted scribes altered and amplified it in an extraordinarily ingenious fashion to fit the needs of their entirely differently constructed Semitic speech.

Sumerian writing contained less than 900 characters, each of which besides a meaning had a phonetic value equivalent to a single syllable. This small number of characters was quite insufficient to act as an adequate vehicle of their spoken language. To ameliorate this situation there were devised some very interesting devices.

One of the means used to increase the number of words that could be written with this limited number of signs is known as gunation. It consisted of adding to a character the pictogram for "hand". This converted the original character into another one with a new meaning. This new meaning was regularly an intensification, that is, an increasing of the power of the original meaning. To illustrate, es means "house", es-gunu means "city", i.e., many houses; igi means "eye", igi-gunu means "to be bright"; ga means "fish", ga-gunu means "fertility", referring to the fecundity of propagating fish; musen means "bird" musen-gunu means a "large bird"; the character for "day" when gunated became the character for "month", i.e., an enlarged or lunar day. This procedure will be clearly differentiated from the formation of a plural as in English or the use of the augmentatives and diminutives that are known in the romance languages. Gunation is the taking advantage of the energy and versatility inherent in the concept hand and utilizing this concept to enrich their written language.

Another means resorted to was the placing of one pictogram within another. This resulted in some very ingenious expressions, such as when the character "darkness" was inserted into "day" it signified "night"; the sign for "great" inserted into that for "house" was read the "under world"; when "ox" was written inside "mountain" it was read "wild ox"; and "water" inside of "mouth" meant "to drink".

With the passing of the written language from the purely pictorial to the mixed phonetic stage and with the ever pressing need for increased expression there were added two very baffling elements to their script.

The first of these was the extraordinarily simple device of assigning to the same character two different pronunciations and likewise two meanings. This would be exactly the same as our writing the word " cat" and having it read and mean cat under some circumstances and dog under others. The ideograph with the phonetic value sig, and originally meaning "horn", has ten additional readings, as namaru, to be bright; nakabu, to rush, to pierce; suzzuzzu, to establish; enesu, to be weak; ahazu, to seize; malu, to be full; dababu, to oversee, to counsel. One should note the associational dependence of each of these definitions to the root meaning; take for example "to oversee", which is the equivalent of "to look into", and in slang is expressed as "to horn in".

The second of these expedients was the system of dropping the last consonant of the syllable; the phonogram gu, for example, could then be pronounced with any of the twenty final consonantal sounds. In English the equivalent of this procedure would be to write the letters "ca" alone, and then to read them as either cab, cad, cake, came, can, cane, cap, car, cat, or caw.

The final attempt to widen the scope of their writing was through the use of the rhetorical mechanism of paranomesia, the pun. This brought about some strange formations, especially during the later periods of their history when they came in contact with the Assyrians. The Sumerian word gal means city, it is also pronounced uru, incidentally the Semitic word uru means "cunnus", hence as a pun probably determined by the naive reference to the traditional iniquity of urban people, the Sumerian, when writing the word Babylon, instead of using their gal character for city they employed the cunnus sign, yet pronounced it city. Later, when the authors began to gather the material for the compilation of the Old Testament, and they learned that the literal translation of the character for city was "cunnus", which concept throughout historical times has been synonymous with prostitute, it at once becomes clear how it came to pass that the prophets and the scribes resorted to the biblical reference to Babylon as the great whore. Another illustration is in the case of the two widely different characters, one pronounced si-iq-qa, meaning "goat", and the other apsu, meaning "abyss"; the ocean was described as an abyss full of se-qa, i.e., water in general; hence, as the word for goat, se-iq-qa, sounds so much like the word for water, se-qa, there resulted the substitution and the writing of the character for goat whenever it was intended to express the word for water. Again a "dagger" was pronounced gi-ir; the same character, owing to the similarity of sound, was employed when it was needed to write the word for "foot", which was pronounced gir.

It is quite necessary that one become acquainted with these linguistic principles to which the Sumerians had recourse in order that one sense the psychic stress that was the motive for the ingenuity expended in the formation of their compound ideograms.

Among other things their language contains many illustrations of the mechanism of inversion, which in rhetoric is called antithesis. There are numerous examples in which the same ideogram with the same phonetic value is employed to express ideas which are exactly opposite to each other:

The word di-im means "strong" or "weak"; another character with the same pronunciation means "to crush down "or" to protect"; e-gi-ir is read as "before" or "behind"; the character e-ru when pronounced abdu means "a man servant", and when read amtu it means "a maid servant"; xu-ul stands for either "joy" or "grief" ; isi means "dust" or "mountain"; ra-a signifies "to go" or "to stay"; mil stands for "to go forth" or "to enter in"; tu-um when pronounced babalu means "bring", when pronounced sitpuru means "to send"; gu-ur is the "waning" or the "waxing moon"; si-i when read muru means "light", when read samu means "dark".

The same character si-i affords a concrete example of the invasion of the domain of lexicography by the omnipresent principle of bisexuality, in that this ideogram when read zikaru means "male" and when read ure means "female". The ideogram mu-ru-ub is an illustration of the principle of displacement from below up, in that its original meaning was "cunnus", and subsequently it came to signify, in addition to this, the word "mouth".

A miscellaneous series of ideograms will show a great many associations which are thoroughly familiar to our every-day thinking:

DWELLING is written with a character which is a compound of "removed from", "place", and "sun".

CREAM is formed from "top" and "milk"; cf. the German word Obers.

SORROW is defined as something oppressing the heart; cf. the word anxiety, derived from angustus, narrow.

VERY FULL is written with a character which is a compound of "a horn" and "good"; it is pronounced si-i, but when pronounced sakaru it means to be drunk; cf. "to be full" in the sense of being intoxicated.

REJOICE is derived from "fullness" and "speech"; cf. our expression, "to be too full for utterance".

PHYSICIAN is derived from "magnificent" and "power"; this is a clear reference to the position of importance held by him in the community.

DOCTOR is described as one who has knowledge; the character is azu, which is a combination of a, meaning "water ", and zu, meaning "to know"; that is, one who has knowledge of a "urine", a"semen ", and a "life"; there will be noted the intense over-determination in this syllable.

ILLNESS is called "the anger of the gods"; this attitude is still prevalent in many modern creeds.

SLEEP is formed from the characters "to be full of" and "eye"; cf. our phrase, "the eyes to be heavy with sleep ".

ANGER is represented by a combination of the characters for "swollen" and "head"; cf. the French entêté, or the old English phrase, "to act in a heady fashion".

SIDE is written with a character which depicts a "half-enclosure"; it also signifies brother; cf. " side-kick" and the verb "to be hostile"; one should at once observe the far-reaching import of the association between the concept "brother" and "hostility"; by a pun this character is also read "jackal"; in that hostile and brother are associated, it is but natural that to this combination should be added jackal, as an almost universal abuse is to refer to another person in terms of dog ancestry; the additional meanings are " sister, family, lady, without, flesh, and to increase ".

BAD-DREAM is composed of the characters for "beast" and "night"; cf. "nightmare".

DELUGE contains three characters, those for "water", "ship", and "to enter"; this association came from their mode of life in the lowlands of Mesopotamia, where a flooding of the valley necessitated their taking to their boats. These events were immortalized in the Epic of Gilgamesh and subsequently appeared in the biblical version of the flood.

STAR also signifies "heaven", "god", "to be high" "to go up"; likewise " an ear of corn " much of their poetry referring to corn as " a gift of heaven ".

SPITTLE is written with the character nadu; it means " to throw spittle for healing purposes "; cf. contagious magic.

DEATH shows some far-reaching associations.

SEPULCHER is formed of the characters for "house" and "death".

EARTH has a most primitive formation, being composed of the characters for "universal" and "grave".

OPEN when read ba-ad signifies the verb; when pronounced nisu it means "to tear away"; matu, "to die"; mitu,"dead" or "finished" said of a garment; parasaxu, "quiet"; pagru, "a corpse".

WALL is curiously ambivalently formed, being composed of "enclosure" and the "open sign"; likewise it has a wide range of meaning, as it signifies "opening, dissolving, revolution, destruction, and death".

SNOW is compounded of "to make", "a shining", and "appearance".

DAGGER : This character is derived from the pictogram for "snake", and at times is used with this meaning.

SALT stands also for sailor; cf. "an old salt"; a sailor is defined as one who makes the ship go; cf. navigator.

FIELD is written with the pictograms for "restraint" and "water"; this refers to the irrigating dykes which bounded their fields.

DROPSY is written with the characters for "water" and for "to make an end of"; this suggests their recognition of the probable outcome of a patient with anasarca.

TO SEIZE is written with the same character as "to curse"; a curse was conceived of as a disease which seized the patient in the same anthropomorphic fashion that epilepsy is still regarded by some surgeons.

TO CUT: The character for this verb also means "twin"; cf. the folk-lore explanation that twins represent halves of an original individual ; it also means "to decide"; cf. a clear-cut or decided opinion; likewise it means "half", "to break in two, to shine, offspring, and increase".

FIRE ideogram is also used for "she goat", defined as the burning, the lustful animal.

MERCIFUL is translated as "full of intensive heart"; cf. to be big hearted.

TO BE ANGRY: The pictogram for the concept illustrates the earliest known attempt to indicate motion; it is the true architype of the moving picture. It consists of an outline of a small dagger; the blade is shown with the cutting edge upward, and another outline of the blade a trifle smaller but with the cutting edge down; the effect is to show the weapon as though it were being rotated around its long axis in a menacing manner. This pictogram for a knife being brandished is also read as "strife, wrath, and to approach with violence".

FATE ideogram signifies a fixed thing; it also means an "idea"; cf. an obsession.

TO SURROUND is written with a reduplication of the character for "enclosure". This doubling of the noun to mean the verb is rarely resorted to in Sumerian; in the Malayo-Polynesian languages, on the other hand, it is of frequent occurrence; cf. hula, the dance; e hula hula, to dance.

COMMANDING sign is a combination of "to know" and "eye"; it means also "to speak", and harkens back to the time when orders were given by a mere glance or nod of the head.

DESTRUCTION ideogram is combined of the pictograms for "to pour out" and "inundate"; it refers to the floods that took place in the valley of the Euphrates.

Some of the ideogram formations for parts of the body are simple and quite on a par with modern Greek derivatives:

HAND consists of the character representing the hand and forearm; it signifies "side", "power", and "a bent object"; from this there came the concept "horn", their symbol of power and plenty; cf. "cornucopia"; likewise the term "wages", over-determined by the ideas of "what is paid into the hand" for "manual labor".

TEAR is constructed from the pictograms for "water" and "eye".

EVIL is formed from "eye" and "hostile"; this reminds one of the Italian occio malo of folk-lore fame.

MAN has the phonetic value of me-e; when pronounced zikaru it means "male"; with other pronunciations it means " to speak", or "tongue" or "conjuror"; it will be noted that this is an example of a very ancient association bearing upon the subject of the magic omnipotence of words.

AGED is formed of the characters for "hand" and "reed"; it also is read "senile palsy"; cf. our expression "to shake like a reed".

ANUS ideograph also signifies "cheek"; one translation states that it was bored into with a knife; this is a fragment of a widespread myth to the effect that "in the time that was", as the American Indians phrase it, there was a race of people who were without this aperture until it was made for them by some transformer hero like Kutq, the West Coast Raven.

POT-DE-CHAMBRE has the literary designation of "the place of fullness of urine".

URINE ideogram is compounded of "flowing" and "water"; it also means "wine"; this savors of antithesis, contrasting the flowing in and the flowing out; likewise there is seen the identification owing to the yellow color of their wine, which was made from fermented honey. Another character for urine is written with the pictogram for "phallus" into which is inset the character for "water".

LIVER character likewise means "disposition" and "humor".

SCOUNDREL: The opprobriousness of this as an epithet may be discerned from construction of the ideogram which is formed of the signs for "man" and for "stinking".

JOY is synonymous with "to play music on an instrument".

HAUGHTINESS is described as "raising up the eyes".

The character for "water" has a most bewildering series of connotations. The original pictogram was drawn as two vertical parallel strokes and depicted " running water". It has the six phonetic values of a, me, bur, e, dur, and id.

The extraordinary over-determination of this radicle can be brought into correlation with the life history of these people. It is known that the Sumerians were forced to migrate from the formerly fertile region of Western Persia, and that this migration was due to an increasing aridity of the climate. When they entered the Mesopotamian peneplain they found such an abundance of water there at certain seasons that to avoid flood damage it necessitated the building of their cities on raised mounds, and at other seasons such a scarcity of water that it necessitated the building of extensive canals and irrigation systems. It is just such environmental situations in the natural history of these people that gave rise to the import of water in their struggle for existence, and thus brought about the intensive over-determination of the general concept in their particular case.

In that all the derivatives are intimately linked in association a review of these gives an unprecedented insight into recorded human thinking at the very dawn of history. Of particular interest is the ideogram for "irrigation", which also signifies "food and drink".

Under the water radicle with the a sound there are three subgroups:

1. The series referring to water contain words meaning "to overflow" ; "water cutting through"; "a flood", literally "evil water"; "a tear", literally "water of the eye" ; "to lament" ; "to inundate"; and finally "moisture".

2. The series referring to copulation contains words meaning "father" defined as the protector of the dwelling; "brother", literally the protector of the house; "humankind"; "son", cf. seed; the pronunciation eru means "to be pregnant"; the regular idiogram for this verb is pronounced pes; it is composed of "interior" with the "water" sign written inside; "to beget"; "figure"; "image"; "offspring"; "brood"; "to moisten", i.e., "to beget"; "sexual love"; "mounting"; "to ride astride of"; "to lie down to sleep with a woman" ; "a seat"; "a bed"; "to rest"; "to be pacified"; "to be quiet", in the sense of to recover from an illness, cf. the French sortir de maladie.

3. The series referring to "shining and glittering" is derived from the appearance of sunlight on the rippled surface of water; one form means "shining stone" and the "luster of a jewel"; this same etymology is seen in Turkish, where the word su means both " water " and " jewel "; in English one speaks of a "jewel of the first water" and of a "crystal spring".

Under the water radicle with the bur sound there is to be found but one use to which the syllable is put. This is in the word Burat, the Sumerian name for the Euphrates River. This will be recognized as an example of taboo, the river holding a position of such importance in their life that its name became set apart from the rest of their speech by a syllable all its own.

In glancing over these examples of word formation and the accompanying associations, one is struck by the feeling that owing to their commonplace nature they are almost unworthy of seriously being recorded. This is due to the fact that they are all so similar to our present manner of thinking that we are repeatedly encountering the familiar, and this with so minute an expenditure of energy that not even the sense of wittiness is awakened. The importance to the psychoanalyst of Sumerian writing lies in that in it one witnesses concrete examples of the processes of thinking of easily 10,000 years ago, and furthermore that this thinking is so like our own that its description barely lends itself to a presentable narration.

When, however, their vocabulary bearing upon the man-and-woman problem, the problem of love and procreation, is examined, all this is quite different, different in terms of interest, owing to the fact that many of the associations and formations have at one time or another suffered repression, and their entrance into the foreconscious system and their recognition by mano; that is, their becoming again conscious, is inevitably fraught with a certain amount of emotion.

The ideograms that signify matters relating to man and his activities show less repression and therefore are less subtle than those referring to woman:

DEMON is formed by the pictograms for "seed" and "to be full", i.e., full of sexual power; cf. the phrase when we speak of a chap as "being a regular devil with the women". This character also signifies "big" and "to grow large", which by a pun refers to the "phallus". Demon is also written with the pictograms for "powerful" and "death"; in this character there is seen the deep unconscious appreciation of life being death, and death being life. This is not a mere idea hazily sensed alone by the poets, nor is it a pure rationalization by Freud; on the contrary, it is a fragment of very primitive thinking, and this Sumerian word is the oldest known expression of this ambivalent concept.

BROTHER: This character has a significant series of meanings, among which are "to protect, to overshadow, sexually, to shelter, to overwhelm, to crush, greatness, offspring, to multiply", "difficulty", and "trouble".

MALE: This ideogram has the additional significance of "counsel" and "wisdom"; this is an unequivocal reference to the biologically normal source of knowledge. Another character for man means "to cut" and "to penetrate". Male is at times written with the wedge-shaped character for " oil", which also means "fullness" and "strength".

HERO is synonymous with great; it is pronounced ges; another pronunciation, gis means "male" which, owing to its homophonous relation to gi-is, meaning "phallus" is often used for the latter word. There are not many good puns in the English language owing to the fact that it does not readily lend itself to their formation. In Sumerian on the other hand it appears that there were endless opportunities for this form of wit to take place. This is due to the nature of their speech, in which a vast series of words still exhibit their original meaning, a meaning derived by direct reference to the prowess of man, the function of woman, and certain mutual enterprises.

FATHER character is read as "brother, protector, to proceed with strength, to be sexually strong, testicle, genitals, and parts".

WARRIOR ideogram is composed of the sign for "life" and that for "enclosure", i.e., full of much life; this emphasis upon being alive, the primary value of a soldier, is brought about by the doubling of the character for life; this is a rare formation and was only resorted to when a special emphasis was desired.

TO RULE is synonymous with "to bend over in the sexual act"; by a punning formation it is also read as "house" or as "lady".

AN IMPORTANT MAN is represented by the combination of the signs for "phallus" and for "parts"; cf. the phrase "a man of parts" to express a powerful and progressive personage. The same ideogram also means "to copulate, many, strong, and to rule".

PHALLUS: This pictogram was originally drawn with an accuracy that left no details lacking. It has an exceptionally important phonetic value in that there are seven widely different pronunciations. Its meanings cover a wide range, among which are "man, name, straight, to punch, to copulate, to impregnate, to stand erect, to tread, to seize, elevation, build a nest, start a family, lift up, to open, and a powerful man"; this list reads like an ordinary free association. The verb "to open" is a compound of "to know" and a "penis"; cf. the English innuendo "she is a knowing lass". This character also means "forehead"; this refers to a median lock of hair which has been compared by them to a hanging penis. Another character for phallus is composed of "water" and "to hold", that which holds water. Phallus is also written as a combination of the pictograms for "phallus" and "stone"; this ideogram is then read as "high heaven". Phallus sign containing three small round circles, representing seeds, is used to mean "slave"; the ambivalent nature of this ideogram leaves to the individual scribe the choice in its use as to the sex of the slave.

The ideograms that signify matters relating to woman and her functions are much more in number than are those relating to man. This is exactly the case in English, where there are fully two hundred more synonyms for the pudenda mulierbris than there are for phallus.

TO BEGET is written with the pictogram for "wood"; this character is also used for "to build"; likewise it means "death"; one will again note the association between life and death. Another character means "to moisten" and "offspring". To beget is also written with a combination of "a bird in flight" and "a good bird"; cf. the dove as a phallic symbol; in addition this ideogram means "clitoris, nakedness, blood, and to be strong".

CHILDBIRTH ideogram is a combination of "what is above" and "the mouth", referring to the position of the male in the sexual act.

BRIDE ideogram when translated means "the woman of whom a man is the master".

BREAST is defined in truly poetical language as "the shrine of the heart"; it is also synonymous with "milk".

A SAGGING BREAST is written with an ideogram which when translated means "a sinking or leaning over of the breast", i.e., a falling down; this same character also means "dead soldiers"; cf. the slang phrase of a dead soldier when referring to an empty bottle of wine; in that the breast was the first bottle, i.e., the first container of stimulating liquid encountered; this is an association of the most far-reaching import; related to this subject is the fact that the alcoholic beverages imbibed by primitive people are first warmed, like mulled wine; this is true of the Japanese of to-day, who drink their rice wine only after it has been heated.

TEAT: This character shows an extremely interesting and almost unique example of the application of the principle of gunation to the formation of a new character. Gunation, it will be recalled, consists in the broadening of the idea inherent in the root word; as has been cited, the character for "house" when gunated becomes the sign for city. In the ideogram for "teat" the gunation or broadening was applied to the shape of the character itself. The root sign was "a wedge", and when its sharp point was gunated it became blunt; to this idea of a blunt point was associated the bluntness of a teat, and this pictogram of a blunt pointed wedge was then utilized to represent the teat.

TO COPULATE is compounded of "to open" and "something opposite the opening"; it also means "to open, to draw water, to cause conception", i.e., to draw seed from the womb; "to pour out, to make a libation, to bore in, to be strong, resistance, hostility, to destroy, weapon, reign-year, to swear", and "interpreter", i.e., one who breaks into the speech of others. Another ideogram is composed of these pictograms in the reverse order, the "opposite" coming first and "to open" afterwards; this in addition to copulation means "life, to join, to seize, to receive, to sleep with"; it also means "a rib"; this very synonymy, referring as it does to a widespread myth, may be the literary source of the biblical version of the creation of woman from a spare rib. One ideogram for the woman in the sexual act is formed of the pictogram for "bread basket" inside of which is written the sign for "male"; this character likewise has the meanings of "to penetrate, girl and an amphora"; note this early association of female to a vase, a receptacle. Another character means "fixed", "the womb", i.e., the fixed organ," to bore through, to associate with, battering ram, and dove". Another ideogram for copulate is composed of "woman", "enclosure", and "man"; it is also read "to cover".

CUNNUS was originally drawn as a wedge with the apex down and within which was a vertical stroke which was one of the pictograms for the phallus; other meanings are "the middle part, extended, capacious, and the womb". Another character is written with the two pictograms for "woman" and for "place"; it is pronounced xizbu and is used as a pun for the kuzbu, meaning "the mouth". Another character is written as "mouth of oil"; it has the additional meanings of "plenty, pleasure, and lust". Another form is composed of the pictograms for "a pipe" enclosing the sign for "head". Cunnus is again written with pictograms which read "fullness, riches, and mouth". Another sign also means "red" and "to be very angry"; cf. to see red. At times it is written with the pictograms for "oil" and for "wood"; it is also read "palm oil", i.e., a symbol for plenty; it furthermore means "woman, piazza, and harem".

TO DESTROY is written with a combination of the pictograms for "cunnus" and "phallus".

FISH: This pictogram at times is used to mean "cunnus" as well as the word "stinking".

AN ARCHER'S BOW: The ideogram is composed of the signs for "cunnus" and for "arm"; this referring to the most important target for the arrow.

SMOOTHNESS is written with the characters for "vagina" and "oil".

DOVE is defined as the bird of love; it is one of the meanings of the pictogram for "to enter" and "making vegetation"; it will be recalled that the dove in the Bible carried the olive sprig showing that vegetation had again been created, i.e., made; the dove sign is likewise read "to beget" and "sickness", i.e., the idea of something entering the body.

GIRL ideogram is formed of the pictograms for "enclosure" with a "bull's head" inside; cf. the association of bull to power and to phallus.

LADY is described with the characters for "sun" and "repletion"; this indicating the acme of feminine accomplishments, viz., a sunny disposition. Another character for lady has at times the meaning of "tribute".

MOTHER was originally written with the pictogram for a dwelling; its ambivalency is shown by its also meaning "father". Another ideogram is written with the combination of the signs for "house" and for "high"; this also reads "to love" and "womb". Another character is compounded of "house" and "wide"; this again is synonymous with "love" and "womb". The same situation is paralleled by the speech of infants of to-day who early use the syllable ma for the "mother", and extend the application of the word to other loved objects until there takes place an increase and differentiation of the vocabulary.

OFFSPRING is read at times "to strike" and "to butcher"; this refers to tribal wars of extermination in which the conquered warriors were slain in battle and the children butchered.

PREGNANCY is written with the characters for "receptacle" with a "man" inside; it is also read as "wet nurse". Another character may be translated "to conceive, to lie down, to be recumbent, to draw water, to overshadow, to cover, and to sleep". A pregnant woman is again written with characters meaning "mother of strength"; this by a pun sometimes signifies " troops ", i.e., strength and power.

WIFE ideogram illustrates the mechanism of over-determination resulting in considerable condensation. It is formed of a pictogram which is composed of "cunnus, phallus, an enclosure, and man". Another ideogram for wife is translated "excellent in size", referring to pelvic breadth and child-bearing capacity; cf. the old English expression "of goodly beam".

WOMAN ideogram is composed of the signs for "woman" with "man inside of the enclosure"; it is also read "married, mate, man, to copulate, like unto, boar, and pig"; its ambivalency is seen in the extension of the meaning to include man; as to boar and pig, male erotism suggested the former and feminine fertility the latter. Another ideogram for woman is composed of "phallus" and "enclosure"; it is also read "something hollow", "mother" and "festival". Woman is likewise written with the pictogram for "woman", to which is added that for "fullness", i.e., ready for marriage.

Womb is written with the characters for "house" and "son"; a similar etymology is seen in Tagalog, where the words bahai bata mean " house of the baby ". Another character for womb is that for " four fold"; it also has the meanings " many fold, numerous, hollow, offspring, bearing, fertility, and fruit". The ideogram composed of " house" and " high" has the additional meanings of " wide, roomy, extensive, mother, mother's womb, love, and strong "; note the repetition of the association between mother and love with the addition in this case of the concept strong. One word for womb is also read " to surround " and " a pregnant woman "'. Womb may be written with the character for " burning ", i.e., " the organ of craving ".

The ideograms relating to love have a wide range of association and ambivalent meanings:

The word di-ib reads "what fills up an opening, to seize, and to seize in love"; the antithesis of love is seen in the reading "wrath of heart", i.e., what seizes the heart; the opposite of life is seen in the meanings "dead" and "snatched away".

The word du means "to love a woman sexually"; likewise "multitude, plenty, and good".

The word u-ku-us stands for "love", "cucumber" or "joy".

The word ag is written with the pictogram representing a "fire-drill" inserted into "an enclosure". It means "to love, to command, justice, whatever is numerous, to roar, and to shout". In Arabic love is described as "the fire within".

The word ci-i means bitterness; it is written as "a room" with "trouble" inside of it; this hints at an early understanding of the situations in life from which the maximum upsets may arise.

Ishtar, their most brilliant goddess, is the tutelary deity of the morning and evening star, likewise the goddess of love and war; again, life and death in etymological juxtaposition.

When one compares the psychic structure of the Sumerian written language with that of the Chinese one is at once impressed with the fact that the thought processes of the Chinese Literati were of a much more exact and precise type. There is a degree of clearness and a lack of ambiguity in a page of Chinese script which strikes one with startling vividness. The nearest approach to this in the western languages is to be seen in French scientific literature.

Even a casual perusal of the Sumerian dictionary evidences that the minds of their scribes, when presented with the purely lexicographical problems of how to combine two ideas to the end of making a third, functioned in a fashion which in no respect differs from the mind of the man in the street of to-day. From this it is evident that the purely foreconscious intellectual processes of these ancient Central Asian people were quite the same some 9,000 years ago as are the thinking processes among our contemporaries. This holds vfifth especial force when the qualitative phase alone is considered.

When the term primitive thinking is used, and above all when it is applied to a race, it should be clearly stated what is the subject matter with which the thinking is concerned. Freud has conclusively adduced overwhelming evidence to the effect that when the savage tries to explain thunder, or a child endeavors to account for the origin of babies, or a neurotic essays to excuse to himself his neurosis, and further when the unconscious mind of all three functions during sleep in the dream, it is to these that the term primitive thinking applies. It also manifests itself when mankind attempts to contemplate metaphysics and allied subjects which are not well understood.

When, however, the mind of man is engaged in the reality occupation of developing a written system for conveying speech, it seems as though foreconscious thinking was very much in the foreground. It is also certain that the foreconscious thinking of all mankind is far more alike than the superficial somatological differences between the different races have led us to believe.
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Post by Fanboy The Great And... » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:36 pm

How did I miss THIS thread?

Ugh. It's too much to take in just after waking up. I think I'm gonna go get some breakfast and think about this.

But everything's coming together...
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Post by Don Carlo » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:51 pm

Has anyone seen a pre-1974 LRH passport? That would show what countries he went to. Gaps between school and work might have been in a mental hospital. What better explanation for an embarassing gap than turning a simple trip into an "explorer" expedition?
LRH was issued passport * Z-1889248 on 23 April 1974. The State Department will not say whether LRH was ever issued a passport previous to 1974

...* In September of 1928 a hurricane destroyed much of the coffee crop there (Puerto Rico) and the American Red Cross sent a great many volunteers to help with the re= planting and rebuilding as well as medical aid. (67)

* LRH was sent there to help the Red Cross by his father. LRH left Hampton Roads, Virginia on 26 October 1932, aboard the military transport USS Kittery for the island of Puerto Rico.
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Post by brownjedi » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:22 pm

Don Carlo, that makes a lot of sense. For the known delusional like hubbard it makes sense that he would turn a trip to the mental hospital into an expedition.

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Post by peter » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:39 am

Soderqvist1: I have two links here which can be of interest regarding the old time!
Erich Fromm’s Critical review of the Dianetics 1950, and European Institute for General Sematics (Korzybskis’ Institute) review of Scientology!
The rest is only “foreword”!

Frieda Fromm-Reichmann
When Adolf Hitler rose to power in Germany and Jews began to be persecuted,
Frieda moved to France and then later to the United States where her husband Erich Fromm, from whom she had long been separated, got her a job as a psychiatrist at Chestnut Lodge, a mental hospital in Maryland. The founders of the William Alanson White Institute, famed psychoanalytic institute in New York City, were Fromm and Clara Thompson, joined by Harry Stack Sullivan, Fromm-Reichmann, David Rioch and Janet Rioch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frieda_Reichmann

"Dianetics" - For Seekers of Prefabricated Happiness by Erich Fromm (1950b)
http://eqi.org/fromm.htm

Korzybski
The statements by LRH in the early 1950's about the initial research round 1945 on Dianetics (trademark owned by Religious Technology Center) are unequivocal. The jump was from Spencer to Breuer to Korzybski to Dianetics.

William Alanson White (1870-1937).
"I met him in 1923, and since then, until his death, we were warm friends and sort of co-workers. Through his help I was permitted by the Department of the Interior to study in St. Elizabeth's hospital for two years. I realized that I needed for my further work to have first-hand informations about psychiatry, not only through theoretical studies but also through empirical observations of actual psychobiological reactions, and White was my teacher and guided my researches in the study of mechanisms. White realized his need of scientific methodology, and in this respect I trained him in the new methodological aspects of modern science, which with me was equivalent to training in extensional physico-mathematical orientations." (A. Korzybski, letter of 10 May 1946, Collected Writings, etc., 1990, p. 899.)
http://www.geocities.com/paultabaka/

The Psychoanalytic Roots of Scientology by Silas L. Warner, M.D.
(p. 352) Clara Thompson went on to become a psychiatric resident at Phipps Clinic in Baltimore, working underDr. Adolf Meyer, the well-known psychobiologist. In 1923, during her second year of psychiatric training, she met Harry Stack Sullivan, beginning a long and fruitful friendship. During her last year of training, Adolf Meyer honored her by placing her in charge of his private patients. "This was the greatest recognition a psychiatric resident could be given at Phipps. At the same time she began psychoanalytic treatment with Dr. Joseph C. Thompson.
http://aapdp.org/forum/forum43_1.html#4312


Alfred Habdank Skarbek Korzybski A Biographical Sketch by Charlotte Schuchardt
The following two years he studied psychiatric manifestations at St. Elizabeths Hospital, Washington, D.C., with the permission and under the guidance of Dr. William Alanson White, with whom he shared his study of mathematical methods as applied to psychiatry. There he had the freedom to read case histories, to watch and talk with the hospitalized patients. He regularly attended the staff meetings at the hospital and meetings at the psychiatric societies in Washington, discussed papers with Dr. Harry Stack Sullivan and others, etc. Two lectures given by him during this period are published in his second paper on time-binding, which was an elaboration of the first: June 25, 1925 before the Washington Society for Nervous and Mental Diseases, and March 13, 1926 before the Washington Psychopathological Society. In the short bibliography given for this second paper, he made the following classifications: Science, Method; Mathematics, Mathematical Philosophy, Logic; The Theories of Relativity; The Newer Physics; Psychiatry; Miscellaneous; Human Engineering. 'The material presented here so roughly,' he wrote, 'is being worked out in a book form under the title Time-Binding, The General Theory: An Introduction to Humanology.' The title of this next book, as we now know, was changed to Science and Sanity.

In June, 1938 in Chicago a long-hoped-for goal was realized: Through the efforts of some of his students, particularly Dr. Douglas Gordon Campbell, and with a two-year grant from Mr. Cornelius Crane, an institute was incorporated as the center for training and carrying on his work, with Korzybski as its Director. It was called the Institute of General Semantics, for Linguistic Epistemologic Scientific Research and Education. A long list of distinguished scientists and others who had known him or his work for many years encouraged him by becoming Honorary Trustees of the Institute – Dr. Abraham Brill, David Fairchild, Dr. Clarence Farrar, Earnest Hooton, Dr. Smith Ely Jelliffe, Edward Kasner, Cassius J. Keyser, Dr. Nolan D.C. Lewis, Bronislaw Malinowski, Dr. Adolf Meyer, Dr. Winfred Overholser, Roscoe Pound and many others.
http://www.time-binding.org/inner.php?m ... =5&spid=28


General Semantics vs. Scientology
Many of those who got interested in general semantics were attracted by it after reading the Null-A series by A. E. Van Vogt (AEVV). These novels had such an impact on their readers that general semantics soon became a fad among some Sci-Fi writers and fans, during the 50's of last century. At that time, the anti-science movement was not as strong as today and 'scientific progress' was positively loaded, from an 'emotional' point of view. Then, AEVV became interested in another discipline, Dianetics, invented by one of his colleagues, Lafayette Ronald Hubbard (LRH). Dianetics later evolved, mainly for financial motives, into the Church of Scientology.
http://esgs.free.fr/uk/art/jk8.htm

Soderqvist1: Caroline your link to Silas Warner’s paper doesn’t work!
http://carolineletkeman.org/sp/index.ph ... Itemid=240

Nor does The American Academy of Psychoanalysis and Dynamic Psychiatry’s link to their own Silas Wardner’s paper by Ann-Louise S. Silver, M.D.

It will work if you change sa into dp as in the bold type above!
so this one by me will do!
http://aapdp.org/forum/forum43_1.html#4312

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Post by caroline » Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:47 pm

Good additions, Peter.
peter wrote:Soderqvist1:
Korzybski
The statements by LRH in the early 1950's about the initial research round 1945 on Dianetics (trademark owned by Religious Technology Center) are unequivocal. The jump was from Spencer to Breuer to Korzybski to Dianetics.
Can you post a cite where Hubbard says this?

Thanks also for the new link to the Silas Warner article.
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