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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:14 am 
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Holy shit! A most beautiful chapter.

It describes how one can recuperate from Scientology; how the recuperation process itself brings about a realization of the futility and ineffectiveness of Scientology-application. It shows how someone can start over with next to nothing except for the will to go on, build up from there, and get over the experience, and can in the end win jobs and friends and sanity.

And most of all, it shows how when one leaves, one THINKS one is alone -- but only to discover that you are now part of the huge camaraderie of EX-scientologists.

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Jeff, what a great wrap up of your story. You've created something epic here. I think it will reverberate across the internet. I'm going to read the whole thing again -- All the best...Pete M.


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Wow! What a story! As much as I believed at one point (I always had some reservations) I, quite simply, would never have had the tenacity to stay the course for as long as you did and put up with as much crapola and abuse to get at the Scientological OT carrot that was being dangled before me.

Jeff, what is not clear to me though, having read the entire 17 chapter piece of work ... exactly what was THE specific incident, the straw that broke the camel's back, that caused you to say "ENOUGH ALREADY!"?


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Thanks, Jeff.

An amazing story told with honesty, dignity and KINDNESS. All the best to you and your family and CONTRATULATIONS on your new life and freedom!

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songbird wrote:
salino wrote:
What a puny, pugnacious, paranoid etc., skitso coward DM is.

All that and more! :lol:

Now, today, here on OCMB, I predict that we are going to see former Int staff who suffered the sorts of abuses that Jeff has described return to Gold Base. We are going to see them en masse, at Gold, flanked by reporters and TV cameras, as they tell the world what is going on behind those razor-wire-topped fences.
It will not happen today. It will not happen this week. But, mark my words... it will happen. :cheers:


I'm ready for the huge party afterwards! :bigcrowd:


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I have read the whole story, what an experience, I felt with you all the way. Lots of what you wrote was very real to me. Thank you Jeff. I have emailed your blog to some people that I know that are sort of still on lines. Hopefully after reading your story, they will make the break completely. So glad that you found Kim again, amazing ending.


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Thank you Jeff.

Your story is truly amazing, and you have written it so well that that it feels like a documentary on film/tv.

I can only wish you all happyness for the rest of your life, you deserve every little bit of it.

..Julenissen


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julenissen222 wrote:
Thank you Jeff.

Your story is truly amazing, and you have written it so well that that it feels like a documentary on film/tv.

I can only wish you all happyness for the rest of your life, you deserve every little bit of it.

..Julenissen


This would make an amazing documentary/film ... think about it Jeff! :)

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[/quote]This would make an amazing documentary/film ... think about it Jeff! :)[/quote]

Yes, it would - "My Life in Scientology"
and NOW is the time
The media in the past year has published more stories critical about Scientology than in the past 50 years combined.
The genie is out of the bottle and the OSA cannot do their Nazi SS routine on every media story because there are too many of them and their revenues are shrinking.

Jeff, shop this story to the media

(what a great way to "make amends" and "rejoin the group" meaning us "wogs" in the "wog world" after you did successfully dupe us with your "dianetics campaign" success.


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Thanks, you made my day. I am so happy for you.

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lucy skywalker wrote:
Oh gawd! Another Scio-believer!
Read my two posts about "taking responsibilty"


Umm, no. I'll leave that Scio believer stuff to you.

Why is it that Scios/ExScios think common every-day expressions like 'taking responsibility' somehow all derive from the old Fraud ???

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Did it occur to you that, by writing his story, Jeff is taking responsibility, and using his experience to 1) warn otthers from getting into Co$ and 2) helping current members get out?


Good for Jeff in doing what he's doing, but his story is nonetheless all about Jeff, Jeff, Jeff and how much he suffered and what a wimp he was but nonethless how triumphant he was in pumping out false propaganda to get more people into the mind-fuck he was into. WTF ??

Will it help prevent getting people in ? Mmm, maybe but I doubt it.

Will it help getting people out ? NO. Those in won't be reading it, just as he never read anything similar.

It's a readable story, but as I said, same, same, same.

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All the same, I find it rat arse rude for Chad to write such a thing. Not very compassionate at all, and actually missing the point of the cathartic writings.


Well, being accused of being 'rat-arse rude' doesn't faze me in the slightest.

As far as feeling compassion for Jeff - no, I don't.

As he said, he's doing well. Successful business, solid family support, couple of wives, couple of grand-kids. All's cool, eh ?

But for those other thousands of suckers he recruited who in most likelihood didn't fare anywhere near so well, and may now be broken or even dead - yeah, that's where I'll direct my compassion. If I may ?


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chad wrote:
lucy skywalker wrote:
Oh gawd! Another Scio-believer!
Read my two posts about "taking responsibilty"


Umm, no. I'll leave that Scio believer stuff to you.

Why is it that Scios/ExScios think common every-day expressions like 'taking responsibility' somehow all derive from the old Fraud ???

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Did it occur to you that, by writing his story, Jeff is taking responsibility, and using his experience to 1) warn otthers from getting into Co$ and 2) helping current members get out?


Good for Jeff in doing what he's doing, but his story is nonetheless all about Jeff, Jeff, Jeff and how much he suffered and what a wimp he was but nonethless how triumphant he was in pumping out false propaganda to get more people into the mind-fuck he was into. WTF ??

Will it help prevent getting people in ? Mmm, maybe but I doubt it.

Will it help getting people out ? NO. Those in won't be reading it, just as he never read anything similar.

It's a readable story, but as I said, same, same, same.

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All the same, I find it rat arse rude for Chad to write such a thing. Not very compassionate at all, and actually missing the point of the cathartic writings.


Well, being accused of being 'rat-arse rude' doesn't faze me in the slightest.

As far as feeling compassion for Jeff - no, I don't.

As he said, he's doing well. Successful business, solid family support, couple of wives, couple of grand-kids. All's cool, eh ?

But for those other thousands of suckers he recruited who in most likelihood didn't fare anywhere near so well, and may now be broken or even dead - yeah, that's where I'll direct my compassion. If I may ?



I call your bluff, now show us A**HOLE Chad!

Quote us where Jeff plagerize other people, since you clearly have read the book/blog. Or have you?

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(You need quotes from Jeffs blog and others to reply to this, if not, dont bother, and your bluff has been called)


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I'm probably an odd one to defend Chad, but listen, the guy has a right to his opinion. I never expected universal accolades for my account. I am sure it has many faults, just as my life had many faults.

Autobiographies do have the liability of being somewhat self-absorbed. It goes with the territory. I tried to write my account honestly, even when I knew it made me look bad. Was I a wimp? Certainly at times. Am I proud of everything I did? Certainly not.

By telling my story as honestly as I can, I hope others find it enlightening and cathartic. From the many PMs and calls I've received, I know it has helped many. It has already helped several that I know to break their bonds with the Church. If my account can be of any benefit in this way then it was worth writing.

Some, like Chad, may find it boring or noxious or self-absorbed. So be it. That is his opinion and he has the right to it - and I respect his right to express it.

As to whether or not he wants to withhold his compassion - that too is his right. I do not need or ask for anyone's compassion. Believe me, I learned to live without any compassion, sympathy or charity from others at the Int Base.

Jeff


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Hey Chad ... please go back and reread the posts. You misquote me. I was commenting on Sea Horse's comments, which you mistook for mine. The very last section you got correct. I did think your responsibility statement was rat arse rude. We both have our opinions.

Thanks, lucy

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