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I'mglib



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: Protests at Gold: cops, noise, PIs, you name it
Subject description: 9/27/08 Operation Creepout
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Benny's Friend should be posting an awesome report about this tomorrow, we're exhausted, but a couple of protests went down today at Gold.

Five of us arrived at around 2pm with signs, music, cameras, etc. I have to say, for 5 people we looked pretty awesome. The cops were already there when we drove by to check things out. We had lunch and then went back, and they immediately turned on these speakers they had set up with a noise that sounded like a long car honk. This didn't deter us, though. As soon as the noised stopped we'd yell, "Stop the Beatings" and other things.

Apparently earlier Smurf and some friends had also executed a protest. Benny's Friend should have more details, along with photos and video.

Then, as we were driving home, we noticed we were being followed, of course, and had a very exciting encounter with the PI, that was all caught on video. This should be posted soon.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speakers, huh? LOL

I'm glad to hear that the protests were able to happen today. Can't wait to see these videos and hear more about this PI encounter!

Please post this raid report where more anons will see the news, too! Many are very interested in what happened today at Gold.

http://forums.scientology-exposed.com/50-raid-reports/

Thanks! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Time to hunker in the bunker Reply with quote

This is beginning to remind me of April, 1945, with the Soviets rapidly closing in on "the bunker". When all is said and done, I hope that the oinksters who were harassing the protestors get prosecuted as well.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vincent Price-Miscavige as The Abominable Dr.Phibes, At Gold Base!



Scientology: Operation CreepOut, arriving at Gold Base
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RFDHAgIvQJg
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Things will get MUCH more interesting, keep watching the upcoming videos.


Scientology: Operation CreepOut, Walking up to the gate
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gEMSQznmXSw
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Nothing special here, just getting our stuff together to walk up to the gate.

Check out the NEXT video !!


Scientology: Operation CreepOut, The death organ blares !
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rtzIIrMqn0s
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As we arrived at the gate, they started BLARING this weird organ tone at a 120-130 dB. It was SO surreal, you just had to be there.

This cult is going down so fast, it's simply unbelievable what they're trying to do.


Scientology: Operation CreepOut, Creepy Frankenstein sound
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjw1pHKJKBY
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When you're out in the middle of NOWHERE, you can run your CULT any way you want.

Sorry for repeating the word "Amazing" so much, but it really was.

If it's scientology, it's going to be weird ! Magoo.


I'm speechless at the moment. Miscavige has absofuckinglutely lost it. This is hilarious and beyond.

Scientology Operation CreepOut, Pole Cam Creepy Pole Cam !
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=J9DUQrxbHqw
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Setting up pole cam to get a better view over the fences, bushes and trees. Some of you may see stuff I can't.

Creepy music will be on for most of the rest of the videos.


Scientology Operation CreepOut, More Pole Cam work !
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6o3IqUH9SH8
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This is where the police officer gave me the first verbal warning. Even though I was clearly away from the road, he complained that I was interfering with traffic.

The officer held us to the LETTER of the law all day. More exacting police work to come !

Oh, and the 130 dB music didn't change.


Scientology Operation CreepOut, good Pole Cam view !
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=a-drIRPjuU8
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Walking further along with the 16 ft pole cam. Note that the sign attached to the pole cam says "Call 1-866XSEAORG TO BLOW".

Throught the entire raid, we didn't a single person look at the sign except the two guards in the shack, which quickly pulled down the blinds.

Also, you'll note the CHP cops not doing anthing about the sound. They allowed the cult to act as crazy as they wished, which is fine by us. It's not for the whole world to enjoy.

(Sorry about pole cam motion, it was quite windy up there !)


Scientology Operation CreepOut, cars told not to stop !
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FGBNxEfrwA4
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The police told us not to stop cars. We didn't, but several cars that did stop were told by the officers to continue and not stop. Some people U-turned to ask us what was going on. That was fairly dangerous considering it's a pretty small curvy road with a 45 limit.

Personally, I think the LEAST the cops could have done is to set up some flares before the protest areas.


Scientology Operation CreepOut, lousy view of Bonneview !
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QA0nVijZTU8
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Well folks, a 16 ft pole cam just doesn't cut it when you want to raid Gold Base. I hesitated buying the 30 ft fiberglass pole, thinking there's no way I would need such a long pole to get a good view of the cult.

So, if anybody want's to try thin again, get the longest pole you can get.


Scientology Operation CreepOut, 2nd police warning !
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uZJ4AJqGf2I
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Police warns me a second time. This time it wasn't for walking in the street (which I didn't), but for walking on their property. Basically we had a narrow 2 feet wide cement siding to walk on to be "legal".

At this point I had to give ID to to the cops. Next step was arrest/jail.


Scientology Operation CreepOut, Are we done yet ?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C9dAEU22HYM
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Winding down operations, we think ! (Wait for more great action in a couple of videos)

BTW, just before that I asked Glibby if she wanted to do FOUR MORE HOURS of this and she said YES ! Resistance was quite disappointed that we had to leave. The other guys would have stayed too.

That's the spirit !


Scientology Operation CreepOut, final discussion with CHP
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EBXC3gMrpbI
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The CHP guy was nice, but he's trying to make his job easier. He wanted us protest 1/4 further in front of the castle. He didn't understand that the purpose of our protest was to let people stuck on the inside that we're out there trying to help them. He said "they have cameras, they can see you". Sure the GUARD of the prison have cameras the 300-400 people held in there don't.

We'll be back at the main gate, unannounced. Anyone interested in a weekday raid ?


Scientology Operation CreepOut, the money shot
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YLwe4Ygxif0
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On the way back from protesting scientogy at Gold Base, we decided to stop at a scientology school called "California Ranch" If you have doubts whether or not they are a scientology school, go to their website: californiaranchschool (dot) org. (... study breakthrough made by educator, Mr. L. Ron Hubbard known as Study Technology...) This is the real deal, Applied Scholastics, playdough school. I will post the pictures and story on ExScientology Kids.

But that's not the best part. From Gold Base to that school, we had detected what seemed to be a PI tailing us. Black truck, tinted windows, keeping back 2-3 cars. Our hockey mom played the usual maneuver with the mini-van and we got besides the PI. We took a picture, but to our surprise, he was short hispanic guy with his wife. We laughed our thin foil hats off.

Many miles later after a few turns the guy was still on the same roads with us and we noticed he had no license plates. We though, well it's just a coincidence and we almost reached for our thin foil hats again.

We got to the school (in the middle of nowhere), had a good look, took a few pictures, and on the way back to the car, Resistance noticed there was a strange truck parked down the highway that wasn't there 5 minutes before. Without flinching, we start walking towards the truck, but the sun was in our eyes.

I start recording, with Glibby narrating our day (too much wind, sound is bad). As we get closer, the guy tries to leave. I decide I don't want him to leave since I want a good picture of him. I step onto his path, expecting him to stop. (That has worked before with other scilons !) This guy instead makes a sharp turn to avoid me and risks hitting the two soccer moms.

This PI clearly had no respect for human life and he MUST BE TRACKED DOWN. The Church of Scientology MUST be served with court papers on this specific action.

Police: if you are from San Jacinto, Riverside or the CHP, please pursue this to the fullest extent of the law. I have now been followed 6 times after leaving scientology protests.

Someone will get hurt soon. Please be proactive.


Scientology Operation CreepOut, Scientology dog !
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Clx0Umhvj84
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Just like the cult, all bark and no bite.


Message to the Inmates from Bennys Friend
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qo6UdqE3sNM
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The final video.

Resistance and her wonderful powerpoint presentation. The guards had the blinds down and could not watch it.

The whole world can now.


Other video of the protest:

Anonymous pickets International Gold base
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=trU9d4YpWFI&fmt=18
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From: gonehome1433
Added: October 01, 2008

September 27 five so cal anons pickets gold base in hemet california after being threatened with arrest by the riverside pd the previous weekend. David Miscavage brought the noise which was an utter fail.


and from AgryGayPope's channel....
Gold Bells Ringing & Ringing
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=t84aDpM_thU
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From: AngryGayPope
Added: September 28, 2008

Absurd video! Four other Anons and myself protested at the Scientology cult world HQ in Hemet CA. We were met with a polyphonic multi-speaker surround sound system designed to mute us! Sci's don't want us shouting things. They want us to go away. During the few times of silence I heard similar speakers going off within the compound spouting a slightly less irritating noise. That was to deafen the cultists. The noise you heard was to mute us. Please, turn the volume down for this one.

The tone was polyphonic, so even if you held your ears the highest notes still played in your head like a mousquito.

Funny, though. When the noise was turned off the event lost it's "magic." It was just a dusty country road. But with the noise on there was a melodramatic sense of urgency and irony. It will be really good if they play the noise in the winter when most people have their car windows down.

Please note in the close up of the fence at 2:30 you can see the sharpened barbs facing INWARD.

CA Hwy Patrol was somewhat hard assed and pretended to enforce the letter of the law but nobody got tickets. It was posturing.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of 1945, the noise from the speakers did sound just like air-raid sirens.

It was SO BIZZARE. People driving by were looking around, like WTF is that? Then they saw us with our signs, honked and gave us the old thumbs up.

Here is AnonOrange's Youtube channel, where he will post some videos. He got the great footage of the encounter with the PI. He followed us down this long country road where we made numerous turns and U-turns. Again, BIZZARE.

http://www.youtube.com/user/gnssengr
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I wasn't so blasted tired...but it's been a long day and I ain't no spring chicken.

Nevertheless, here are a couple of today's highlights. First, the afternoon raid crew:



A small group, but solidly determined.

Second, seven seconds of the earsplitting wall of noise we dealt with all afternoon -- roughly 130 decibels of a freaky Frankensteinian cord coming from approximately seven giant speaker towers strategically placed around the protest area and designed to completely incapacitate the average SP.......(which explains our resilience!)

Warning, this is not a pleasant sound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsNT5ohjtI
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are awesome!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome stuff..I really hope somebody blows from there soon so we can get the inside scoop on who the hell came up with that one! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if they bussed out the staff for the day. Maybe somewhere nice like Happy Valley? Wink. If not then just what the holy horsefuck would they be thinking I wonder.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject:
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(This is not an actual report of what happened, but a 90% accurate guess based on 15 years of experience on the Int Base.)

Ever since the last time that the raid went there and talked to the Gold Cine crew guys with cameras, a number of the Cine people have been in doubt, especially in terms of what “SPs” are telling them versus what DM is telling them based on their last encounter. Some of them may have had thoughts of leaving or someone may have even attempted to blow as a result.

DM heard about this, read the sec check KRs of the people and decided he cannot have any more in-person contact between the Int Base people and the protesters so as to prevent any outside information reaching inside and causing last dregs of his support to vanish. So he ordered the Port Captain Gold to handle it. He probably came up with the handling himself and ordered speakers to be lined up along the highway. It is more likely than not that this was a DM order for many reasons, main one being that it is countering his own order of reducing the noise from the highway, and nobody else dares to counter his orders. Besides hiring that kind of equipment is an expense that would have to be authorized by him.

No, the people on the base would not be taken anywhere else during the raid, they would just be ordered to stay inside, out of sight from the highway and “keep working.” How anyone can keep working with that kind of noise going on is another story entirely; in real life, you will have 400 people there doing nothing else but talking about the picket for its duration and long afterward. So the strategy to “reduce the distraction” is a complete and utter failure, more like maximizing it by making sure NOBODY can work while the picket is taking place by making maximum noise out of it. Good going, Dave.

There will be official internal “explanation” as to the use of the speakers which is along the line of “protecting the base staff from exposure to OT data” (always the same story).

So we know a couple of new things: The initial raid had more than a little impact, with many of the Cine crew that you saw last time now being in doubt. It was effective enough to make DM order not to have base staff interact with you any more. For if this wasn’t the case, they would be there again, doing the same exact thing. Forced change of tactic = you won.

And we now know that DM is directly involved in the “handling” (no one else there comes up with handlings as crazy as this, especially not ones that counter his own orders).

I believe you have just managed to pull off one of the biggest shutdowns in the history of the operation of the Int Base apart from natural disasters (flood, fire, earthquake) and unnatural disasters (DM).

Can you imagine if YOU had brought massive speakers with organ sound blaring for the duration of the raid?! Not only is did he assist you in ensuring you get maximum attention, it is being paid for out of CoS coffers -- and he can't blame you for making "all that noise that makes shooting films impossible" (the excuse that has been being used for more than a decade in trying to shut down Gilman Hot Springs road of traffic).

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great job.

I love it. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's just, just... I'm searching my Thesaurus here... nope, 'bizarre' it has to be. How could DM have possibly have devised a better way of showing everyone on Gold Base that he can't handle Suppressive People?

Oh wait, I got one. Earplugs.

Plus, it occurs to me to ask, what happened to the 'Keith Henson and associates' tactic? Did someone at the DA's office do a reality check and realise that banning everyone who agrees with Mr Henson about Scientology isn't going to stand up in court?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'mglib wrote:
Speaking of 1945, the noise from the speakers did sound just like air-raid sirens.

It was SO BIZZARE. People driving by were looking around, like WTF is that? Then they saw us with our signs, honked and gave us the old thumbs up.

Here is AnonOrange's Youtube channel, where he will post some videos. He got the great footage of the encounter with the PI. He followed us down this long country road where we made numerous turns and U-turns. Again, BIZZARE.

http://www.youtube.com/user/gnssengr
Accolades to all involved. You guys showed great courage and professionalism. Yes "Professionalism". You gained massive credibility. The police seemed to take a "Neutral" stance. This is a good thing. Your crew has now opened the flood gates for bigger protests @ Gold. Now on to this as I'mglib noted "BIZZARE" noise generation. This tactic reminds me of a strange twist on what the ATF used in "WACO" Texas against the Branch Davidians. This tactic was also used on Manuel Noriega in Panama by the US military. Strange, very strange. I also found it rather disturbing law enforcement allowed this to occur next to a public road. If i as John Q citizen drove by, this air raid sound would be both a distraction to driving and to be honest, just plan freak me out. We here in Georgia have a similar siren warning system. It is used to let us know a tornado is in our area. IMO, something is not right about the use of this tactic against '5 PROTESTERS" @ the expense of the motoring publics safety. Do any of you know @ what Db level is legal? Within the county? If needed, i can provide you guys with a Db meter. We here in Georgia ran into a noise issue back in March. The police actually had a Db meter pointed @ the group of protesters. To see if we were violating any county noise ordinances.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gumby, I was thinking about you during this thing, and how YOU GUYS got cited for honking, and here they were blasting this air-raid siren for literally hours. The cops said since they own the land (1,000 acres?) that no one else was being disturbed. Huh?????

Anyway, the cops were pretty nice (except for being all over AnonOrange for where he walked...He got a big lecture about walking against traffic, meaning if we wanted to walk the opposite direction, we had to run across this busy street. This was for our own safety somehow. I don't want to bash the cops though. They had to wonder after it was done why this people would make the effort to come out there with these STOP THE BEATINGS type signs.

LBV, we talked about you all the way up there. Benny's Friend even printed out some of the things you had said to say, and we passed the list around in the car. Anonorange and AGP read it, too. AGP was great by the way. He even was THE VOICE OF REASON at one point when we were leaving and wanted to drop the list off at the guard shack. He said, NO that's going on their property and inviting trouble.

There was one point where the sound stopped and we shouted ourselves hoarse. Also it would stop for about 10 seconds every 10 minutes. And we would all start shouting.

FREE HEBER
FREE RICK CRUZEN
IS RICK CRUZEN STILL IN SHACKLES?
STOP THE BEATINGS
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the PI story:

So, we're driving away in the rented minivan, and after a while notice a black pickup truck. It has no plates, as it's brand new. We decide to pull over, and let it pass. It goes by, and now there's a huge distance between us. So we continue on, and a few signals later, there's the black pickup again. We didn't want to be too paranoid, but decide to pull up beside him. AO gets a shot with his camera, and it turns out to be a Hispanic guy with a girl in the passenger seat. We start to laugh, thinking now that we over reacted, because what self-respecting PI follows people with his wife/girlfriend in the car? In a big huge truck no less. So we continue on, taking back roads back to AO's place. It's very rural and spread out. Horses, cows, etc. We turn down an country road, and guess who's behind us? Yup, Mr. Black Truck. So we park, because we had actually taken this back road to check out this Scientology school in the middle of nowhere. After taking photos, we go back to the car, and guess who is parked 50 yards down the road? The black truck. AO and BF immeditately go, "Let's go up and talk to him."

This is what happens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLwe4Ygxif0
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