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Excellent points Wieber, and thank you for starting and continuing this great thread. Anyone who wants to understand how scientology stats work should read from page one.

If the stats weren't set up the way they are, the scientologists would have thought past Thursday at 2pm in timing their "handling" of the Stu problem.

As it is, they might be having a big win right now patting each other on the back for "striking an effective blow against the enemy SPs" and getting their stats up for the week, but let's look at what they really accomplished.

By having Stu arrested on Thursday before 2, the cult has managed to energize and anger all of anonymous just before a massive worldwide picket. Stu will be out in 24 hours at the latest, well before the picket. Taking his tapes and equipment doesn't prevent anyone else from using theirs, and does not remove the videos from public view on all the boards and youtube. In fact, those videos will now be seen by thousands more people just because of the cults outrageous behaviour. Also, by rushing to get it done before Thursday at 2, I'm sure they missed a few things that will come back and bite them hard when the truth about this obvious set-up gets exposed to the authorities and the media.

Silly scientologists just never learn.

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Silly scientologists just never learn.


Actually, Ladybird, I think some of them do learn. You and, I hope, I are proof of that. When they do learn they stop being scientologists.

Have a great weekend everyone. Aarr!

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There's a periodical publication that scientology sent out regularly for a long time. I don't know if they are still making it though. It was in a newspaper format and called "The Auditor."

For a very long time every month it would report on how many 'clears' there were. In 2000 or 2001 - around that time - I received a copy of "The Auditor" that said, 'there are now 50,000 clears.'

Keep in mind that at that point I was still "in."

When I read that I was really pissed off. This was my response: "In fifty years scientology has produced 50,000 clears and scientology is supposed to be clearing the planet? Like, the game is "fun" but if we're going to have a clear planet don't you think we should be making more clears at a faster rate than that? What the hell is wrong with scientology management that in fifty years scientology has only produced 50,000 clears?"

OK, back to my present state of mind, which is "out." Let's just do some math here. There are 6.7 billion people on this planet, approximately. 6,700,000,000. Of that number of people in fifty years scientology has managed to clear 50,000 of those people. That means, at that time, scientology had not cleared 6,699,950,000 people approximately.

Now I took these numbers and my frustration with them to people on staff. They were not alarmed at all. "We don't have to clear everybody. We only need to clear a percentage and the rest will follow." That opinion was expressed by an executive director in the seventies who has since been declared suppressive. More recently, "All it will take to clear the planet is getting 10,000 people on OT VII." "The levels above OT VIII deal with society and mankind. People doing those levels will remotely handle other people's cases. They will handle people's cases in large chunks, as well." The quotes aren't exact, but reconstructions of what was said to me.

The funny thing is after that issue of "The Auditor" it stopped reporting the number of clears that scientology had produced.

Now just to do a little more number crunching and discounting the conditions - meaning the ongoing climb in production, if scientology wishes to produce a 'clear planet' within say fifty years it will have to ramp up its production of clears to a little over 11 million a month.

Lurking scientologist, how is that going? How are your stats?

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Informative program, informative article. This very much applies to
the scientology Sea Org. Sleep deprivation creates a slave state of mind.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/ ... 9721.shtml
Excerpts from the article:

"McRobert told Stahl the sleep-deprived flies rarely if ever mate."
"I would say that sleep deprivation may be a new risk factor for
diabetes," Van Cauter says."
"The Exxon Valdez spill happened after midnight with a man at the helm
who'd slept only four hours the night before; Chernobyl and Three Mile
Island also occurred late at night and involved human error. And the assistant
captain who crashed the Staten Island ferry into a pier, killing 11, admitted that he felt exhausted before the accident."
"And what's more, in the sleep-deprived subjects, Walker discovered a disconnect between that over-reacting amygdala (a region of the brain) and the brain's frontal lobe, the region that controls rational thought and decision-making, meaning that the subjects' emotional responses were not being kept in check by the more logical seat of reasoning. It's a problem also found in people with psychiatric disorders."
"Well, the first finding, and it stunned us, was there's a cumulative
impairment that develops in your ability to think fast, to react quickly, to remember
things. And it starts right away," Dinges says. "A single night at four hours or five hours or even six, can in most people, begin to show affects in your attention and your memory and the speed with which you think. A second night it gets worse. A third night worse. Each day adds an additional burden or deficit to your cognitive ability."

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Thank you, Ladybird, for this picture.
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Hey, you three, how are your stats?

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Wieber wrote:
Now just to do a little more number crunching and discounting the conditions - meaning the ongoing climb in production, if scientology wishes to produce a 'clear planet' within say fifty years it will have to ramp up its production of clears to a little over 11 million a month.

Lurking scientologist, how is that going? How are your stats?


Assuming no population growth, there's still a factor that needs to be taken into account: attrition. I looked at the first 35 clears, to see how that worked out, and at least 22 of them, 63%, have been declared suppressive (1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, 17, 18, 20, 21, 24, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 31, 34, and 35). A couple of the remainder I believe are in good standing, the rest I don't know anything about; my SP tally is almost certainly low.

So even if they cleared 11 million people a month, and there were no population growth, they might end up with 2 billion clears and 4 billion SPs. And even that assumes that nobody gets declared until after they've gone clear.

It all seems rather hopeless, doesn't it? :lol:

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I looked at the first 35 clears, to see how that worked out, and at least 22 of them, 63%, have been declared suppressive.


Ok, ok, ok, she goes, she goes . . . (And if you know where that reference came from you have been paying attention.)

So anyway, I always thought it strange that people achieved 'clear' or 'OT' and were then declared suppressive. Huh? How could someone who has had case gain be a suppressive person?

The core definition and all the Hubbard bulletins on the subject have a very clinical description of what exactly a suppressive person is. According to Hubbard's fantastic technology a suppressive person is one who does not get case gain. Therefore anyone who has achieved the state of 'clear' or 'OT' cannot be a suppressive person.

I risked saying something like that three or four times while I was "in." I got some kind of 'glib' 'verbal data' on it every time.

So, lurking scientologist, remember the song, "Don't Fear the Reaper?" Well, you don't have to fear the goldenrod. Just blow.

If you do fear the goldenrod, let me ask you this. How are your stats?

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That trio is the most unhappy triad I have ever seen. Stats are down and their sour looks blocking the doorway are not helping anything.

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"We have had a really bad week. I am not
looking forward to that phone call from
the Chairman of the Board."




Here we are a week away from the end of J. Swift's latest high strangeness alerts. Have the new-people-in, new-names-to-central-files, and public-reg-paid-starts statistics hit bottom and flat lined? I speculate that only the rock hard core staff remain in the public divisions now, enduring lower conditions and severe pressure from "up-lines."

If you are a lurking scientologist reading this site, I advise you to blow now. I have normally ended postings on this thread with asking, "How are your stats?" That was a dig and intended to rub in the hard time staff must be going through. I wanted to hurt you enough mentally so that your thinking processes would kick in as far as your own self preservation is concerned.

I think in the past few months you, as a scientologist, have gone through a very difficult and probably, for you, very painful time. Should you decide to stay on let me advise you that there will not be any respite from what you are going through. Your very best option is to blow. Take back your life.

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Here we are January 1, 2009, the first day of a brand new year. It also happens to be a Thursday, which is the last day of a scientology week. I hope this is prophetic somehow that the year begins with a day that's an end of week to scientology.

To those of you reading this, the few, the brave, who dare to read this, who are on staff in scientology, it's really too bad that you have to work your ass off trying to get your effing "stats" up on a day when almost everyone else in the world is enjoying a day off, and a day off with family and friends no less.

I sought out this thread intending to use it to taunt you. I guess I have a cruel streak. But, hey, it's a new year. There's a tiny spirit of optimism in the world right now, and I have been where most of you scientology staff members have been - not as severely as those of you in the sea organization perhaps, but still dedicated to the achievements of scientology's goals and aims, to the extent where I was willing to do without and to set aside my own personal goals and aspirations.

scientology took my life away from me. I am convinced that it eventually takes away the lives of everyone who is brought into it, and that includes its chairman of the board.

I'm not going to wish you happy new year. What I do wish you is that today you will get to have your lunch at about noon. I wish that today you will not be yelled at. I wish that today no other staff member senior to you will threaten you. I wish that today you will get to go to your home or your berth early and get a good night sleep. I wish that today you will get to smile and even laugh. I wish that today you will have a little extra money to buy yourself a little luxury. I wish that today for a little while you will get to actually be you and not your post. I wish that today you may spend some time with your family or at least with some people who are your friends.

In other words, never mind your "stats;" have a great day.

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bumped for the good of the general education of the masses...

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bumped for the good of the general education of the masses...


Thanks for the bump. I'm not nor ever was COS, was almost a JW years ago. Haven't visited here for a couple years.

But learned something today. "Stats". Again, one of my favorite phrases, it's prima facie crazy. "Stats" are a Ponzi scheme on a personal level. A pyramid scheme of One.

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Here's DM feasting on his "power" stats at the 2008 IAS event:
David Miscavige in ISN 40 (c) 2008 CSI wrote:
Celebrating the 24th Anniversary of the INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SCIENTOLOGISTS

Chairman of the Board Religious Technology Center, Mr. David Miscavige, opened the IAS 24th Anniversary Event at Saint Hill, England.

WELCOME TO THE CELEBRATION WHEREIN WE ASSEMBLE AS THE IAS. If you sense something akin to a "sigh of relief" in the wind, or an electromagnetic charge in the air—who knows if it's not somehow linked to the LRH datum:

"When all strengths and forces are aligned to a single thrust a tremendous amount of power can be developed."

Granted, we meet once again at a juncture in history when all the wolves of the world are howling and Merchants of Chaos are feasting--in particular, on a financial meltdown being fueled by ill omens and dire warnings in the media that the whole economic house of cards is collapsing. But if such are the calamities, catastrophes and mishaps that "news hounds of Fleet Street" habitually use to rattle populations, let's not forget our own stock in trade: To uplift individuals to levels where they can resolve any problem life might throw their way, and from there, to heights where there is no word for "bad news." In light of that, today's headlines are tantamount to what Shakespeare described as: "A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, yet signifying nothing!"

Before we finish, you will see a Scientology that is all-inclusive, all-embracive and that works for all of humanity. Because for all the talk of economic bailouts, we show you a spiritual bailout. For all the talk of stopping mortgage crises, we show you how to stop a moral crisis. And for all the talk of "troubled asset relief," we show you how to bring relief to whole populations.

While as for aligning all strengths and forces in a single thrust for tremendous power...

If you have heard it said our press, laid out page by page, would stretch to the top of Mount Everest, you now need a new descriptive phrase—because if you stack the pages on top of each other, they've just popped through the stratosphere.

If you've heard it said we're not just in the news, we are the news, you likewise need a new phrase. In fact, you'd have to glue yourself to a television screen every evening for 716 years, just to catch all the media clips on Scientology.

Then again, if you've heard we are reaching out on the worldwide web, that's the understatement of this century. Because with ten million visitors to our new sites since last March, there's no religious or humanitarian organization on Earth with our kind of Internet pull. Scientology.org draws more visitors than United Way, CARE, Peace Corps, Salvation Army and Human Rights Watch combined.

But of course, that's not even half of our saga—not with our phalanx of IAS-sponsored mailings, PSAs and online Fourth Dynamic campaigns. And lay it out, add it up—we're now bringing word of humanitarian solutions through 6 million publications across 140 nations.

Yet that's only a fragment of the story, because in reply to what we unleashed now stand 1,508 government representatives on board with our programs.

Even so, that's still not the full cast of players in this epic, because you also have to add in more than 5,000 disaster relief, emergency response, human rights and social service networks—now likewise embracing our frontline technologies. Then again, if we're not an equal-access organization, nothing is—hence, our outreach of Scientology solutions to no less than 841 million people of every persuasion in just the last year alone.

In addition to offering help, we're also placing total freedom in reach of 1.7 million people through a global infusion of Scientology: An Overview DVDs in the last six months. However, we're not only describing Scientology with our DVD, we're also presenting it in full with LRH Basics Books now on the shelves of 84,218 libraries. That means 86 percent of all lending libraries on Earth are now stocked with a total of 1.6 million LRH titles—and as librarians themselves will tell you, LRH books are moving through checkout lines every 0.8 seconds.

While even beyond what it means to the world at large, what The Basics now represent to the world of Scientology takes us to another dimension entirely. More than 50 million Basics Books and Lectures are now in the hands of Scientologists. That, in turn, fueled 2.7 million people
stepping onto The Bridge this year, and they're doing so every 5.8 seconds. What that, in turn, sparked through the same twelve months is 53 times the number of Scientologists on course, as compared to any other time in history. Add into the equation 5.2 million hours of auditing delivered this year and our expansion has tripled just since the Wake-up Call.

As for where we're going now, we added 1.7 million square feet of Ideal Org premises during this last calendar year, for 10.7 million worldwide—a total five times greater than where we began as the IAS.

While as for the "right here" and "right now," Saint Hill is where it all began. And as is traditional, we celebrate our collective advance as the IAS: our global humanitarian campaigns, our worldwide missions to succor those in distress, and our next decisive steps toward achieving the Aims of Scientology.

[DM's] FACTS & FIGURES wrote:
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2.7 million people started on The Bridge this year ... 10.7 million square feet of Ideal Org premises...
1,668,348 LRH BASICS BOOKS IN LIBRARIES
89,000 lives salvaged with our criminal reform programs.
16 million people saved by our drug education and drug rehabilitation programs.
25 million using Study Tech.
LRH Basics Books now placed in 84,218 libraries.
86% of all lending libraries on Earth are now stocked with a total of 1.6 million LRH titles.
Librarians say LRH books move through checkout lines every 0.8 seconds.
50 million Basics Books and Lectures in the hands of Scientologists.

Below is a partial list of those sent a copy of Scientology. An Overview DVD:
2,000 religions and charitable organizations
11,000 professors of religion
21,000 TV, radio and newspaper outlets
Parliaments, senates, federal cabinets
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[DM's] FACTS & FIGURES wrote:
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2.7 million people started on The Bridge this year ... 10.7 million square feet of Ideal Org premises...
1,668,348 LRH BASICS BOOKS IN LIBRARIES
89,000 lives salvaged with our criminal reform programs.
16 million people saved by our drug education and drug rehabilitation programs.
25 million using Study Tech.
LRH Basics Books now placed in 84,218 libraries.
86% of all lending libraries on Earth are now stocked with a total of 1.6 million LRH titles.
Librarians say LRH books move through checkout lines every 0.8 seconds.
50 million Basics Books and Lectures in the hands of Scientologists.

Below is a partial list of those sent a copy of Scientology. An Overview DVD:
2,000 religions and charitable organizations
11,000 professors of religion
21,000 TV, radio and newspaper outlets
Parliaments, senates, federal cabinets
Business, cultural and community leaders

David Miscavige sure does throw a lot of big numbers, percentages & statistics around. I notice he didn't bother anyone with the boring details about how he arrived at all of those fantastic conclusions. Wasn't that nice of him? Now none of us have to worry our heads with all of those superfluous little bits of information. He has already done the math for us & we can just take his word for it that it is all true.

I mean really, David Miscavige ought to know if 10.7 million square feet of Ideal Org premises exists world wide, right? Hmmm, I wonder why he forgot to mention that most of it is empty?
I bet there are librarians all over Earth with stopwatches keeping track of all of those LRH titles moving through the checkout line every 0.8 seconds.
Nevermind that posters on this very board have visited their local libraries & noticed no such movement. Those libraries must be the exception.
Just because 'Scientology. An Overview' was sent to all of those locations does not mean that any of them were actually interested in it. I get junk mail all the time from the church but that hardly makes me a good statistic for them.
I bet David Miscavige himself visited every single one of those websites he mentioned & looked at the vistor counter for each of them & added them all up to conclude that "there's no religious or humanitarian organization on Earth with our kind of Internet pull." The fact that he only compared Scientology to five other sites is not really a basis to conclude that no other religious or humanitarian organization on Earth has their kind of internet pull.
Oh wait, he probably did look at every site on Earth & then he just mentioned the five closest forerunners. Yeah, thats probably what he did.

Just forget about all that, the fact that David Miscavige delivered a shining review of the growth status of the Church of Scientology should suffice.
Nobody should doubt one single statistic. We've come to expect nothing less than 100% pure scientific research from David Miscavige & the church of Scientology.


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In scientology it's not in writing but it is true that scientology's leader is exempt from all the organization's rules and regulations.

If I recall correctly a "false report" results in an assignment of "treason." Then again when your "stats" are consistently "up" you get "ethics protection" whatever that is.

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