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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:25 am 
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The uniform in the photo where LRH was in a kahki uniform was a commissioned officer/chief petty officer only style dress kahki Navy uniform, not a Marine Corps uniform and has nothing whatsoever to do with weather or not LRH was or was not a non-com in the Marine Corps reserves, SM. To be honest, your alibi game here for the hubturd is about as lame as one of those Nigerian banker letters.


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LRH was a lieutenant j. g. in the US Navy during WW II.

What's your point?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:30 am 
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J. Swift wrote:
USMC (Reserves) Sgt. L. Ron Hubbard was living in the US Naval Hospital DC during 1933-1934. LRH was discharged from the US Marines on the condition that he would never be allowed to re-enlist.

Question SuzanneMarie: Why was LRH banned for life from re-enlisting in the USMC? Was it related to any deep psychological problems for which he may have been hospitalized long term in the US Naval Hospital? CoS has never explained why LRH was living in the US Naval Hospital.


Haven't we been over this before? The US Naval Hospital in Washington, DC, was no longer in use as a hospital when LRH was living there.

It was converted into housing for veterans and their dependents, years before.

From 1907 to 1911, it was a Hospital Corps Training School.

From 1911 to 1922, it was an emergency hospital and HQ of the Naval Reserve, between times when it was vacant.

From 1922 to 1966, it was a temporary home for soldiers, sailors and marines.

http://www.oldnavalhospital.org/History_Main.html

http://www.oldnavalhospital.org/pr_main.html

You never read my links, do you? Scared of uploading a virus, or finding out stuff you did not know?

I'm sure you can make up some reason why LRH was designated not eligible to re-enlist in the Corps. To me it is one of those unsolved mysteries--speaking of which, here's 45 reasons to re-enlist:

http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm442786.html


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Is Suzanne Marie a "real" person? Or a persona?
Hmmmm .... :wink:

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lucy skywalker wrote:
Is Suzanne Marie a "real" person? Or a persona?
Hmmmm .... :wink:


Oh fine.

Make this thread about me. How is that not a de-rail?


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SuzanneMarie wrote:
lucy skywalker wrote:
Is Suzanne Marie a "real" person? Or a persona?
Hmmmm .... :wink:


Oh fine.

Make this thread about me. How is that not a de-rail?


Just asking a question.

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I think you're missing the true significance of the symbol out there in Trementina. It is actually a Venn diagram that describes the nature of Scientology critics. One circle represents gays. The adjacent circle represents outpatients. The area where the circles overlap is criticdom.


Along with stigmatizing gays, you are stigmatizing people with legitimate mental disorders.


Only if pointing out that people are church critics stigmatizes them.


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J. Swift wrote:
Hubbard claimed in his brief 1935 biography to magazine readers that he had seen the world while in the US Marines. This is a lie. Hubbard was a Marine reservist who was offloaded from the USMC for perhaps being a mental defective.

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No, take a look at your magazine article. He claims to have known the Corps from Quantico to Peiping. This is not a claim to have served in the Corps from Quantico to Peiping. It is merely an assertion that he has known Marines in both far-flung places.

How do you explain the fact that LRH was rated excellent while serving as a sergeant in the USMC Reserve? Do you think a mentally defective person would have been so rated?

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Sue, how do you explain the fact that Lafayette Ronald was admonished for having ordered his ship to fire on the mexican coast for no good reason?

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 Post subject: Re: uniform in foto
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:49 pm 
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SuzanneMarie wrote:
RedPill wrote:
The uniform in the photo where LRH was in a kahki uniform was a commissioned officer/chief petty officer only style dress kahki Navy uniform, not a Marine Corps uniform and has nothing whatsoever to do with weather or not LRH was or was not a non-com in the Marine Corps reserves, SM. To be honest, your alibi game here for the hubturd is about as lame as one of those Nigerian banker letters.


Pete


LRH was a lieutenant j. g. in the US Navy during WW II.

What's your point?


One of the photos had some sort of caption regarding Hubturd as a Marine officer, the dress kahkis were in fact Navy.

But, lets examine your quote ... LRH was a Lieutenant JG in the Navy during WWII. In fact, he mad full Lieutanant, equivalent to Captain in the Army, paygrade O3. But he CLAIMED to have made full Captain in the Navy, paygrade O6, equivalent to a full Colonel in any of the other branches. This was, in fact, on a tape that the Hubturd recorded at a lecture of his, the one where he described how if he turned up one collar, the one that for other than line officers, i.e., medical corps doctors, he could pass for a doctor and get into the libraries where he claimed to have done at least some of his research.

But phug all of that. Just go to your local org and report for a good redging.

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Haven't we been over this before? The US Naval Hospital in Washington, DC, was no longer in use as a hospital when LRH was living there.

It was converted into housing for veterans and their dependents, years before.

From 1907 to 1911, it was a Hospital Corps Training School.

From 1911 to 1922, it was an emergency hospital and HQ of the Naval Reserve, between times when it was vacant.

From 1922 to 1966, it was a temporary home for soldiers, sailors and marines.

http://www.oldnavalhospital.org/History_Main.html

http://www.oldnavalhospital.org/pr_main.html

You never read my links, do you? Scared of uploading a virus, or finding out stuff you did not know?

I'm sure you can make up some reason why LRH was designated not eligible to re-enlist in the Corps. To me it is one of those unsolved mysteries--speaking of which, here's 45 reasons to re-enlist:

http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm442786.html


SuzanneMarie, we are talking about two different hospitals -- and this is where it gets embarrassing for you: The ONH "Old Naval Hospital" only allowed veterans of the Civil War, or veterans (as in former military and not active duty or active reserve personnel. LRH was active duty) to stay for up to ten days. IIRC, Hubbard was not a Civil War veteran. Here is the actual quote from your link on the Old Naval Hospital; It looks like you quote the years in your post above, but then conveniently omitted the paragraph right under the years:

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1922 to 1966 - Temporary Home of Union Ex-Soldiers, Sailors and Marines:

In 1922, the Hospital was leased to the "Temporary Home of Union Ex-Soldiers, Sailors and Marines" for $1 a year. Operated by the Grand Army of the Republic, a Civil War veterans organization, it was essentially a hostel for veteran's who had business with the government in Washington. Veterans could stay for up to ten days if they met modest standards of proper behavior and assisted in cleaning duties



Suzy, my dear one, L. Ron Hubbard listed his address as the US Naval Hospital and not the Old Navy Hospital. These are two different and distinct names:

Old Naval Hospital -- For Civil War and other Veterans. Not for active duty personnel.

US Naval Hospital -- For active US Navy and Marine personnel.


Suzy, it appears that I have caught you in another Danny Sherman type of escapade. You want and need to sugarcoat LRH's biography. However, it all falls apart upon even the merest inspection. For example, you have claimed that the 3.5 year old Hubbard was used as a human ballast to help break broncos. Your claim was that wild horses are trained by placing small children upon them first and then working one's way up to an adult man. Well, Suzy, I went and looked at pictures of broncos being broken. There is no way any sane adult would put a small child on one these hombres:

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There are many "Suzanne Marie" personas posting here. I think when one of them gets too enturbulated by the SPs here they send in another one. New registrations are closed on OCMB you know so they have to keep sending in new trooops on the same old SM account. It is interesting and amusing to see faulty cult logic at work. Thank you OSA for providing us the evidence and entertainment via "Suzanne Marie".

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Bring back Pitbull.
He was more amusing.


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Ladybird wrote:
There are many "Suzanne Marie" personas posting here. I think when one of them gets too enturbulated by the SPs here they send in another one. New registrations are closed on OCMB you know so they have to keep sending in new trooops on the same old SM account. It is interesting and amusing to see faulty cult logic at work. Thank you OSA for providing us the evidence and entertainment via "Suzanne Marie".


You may be right, Ladybird, but I doubt it.

OSA Int lack the personnel to do that.

They're only ten of them, including Gavino.

But, hey, I may be wrong, maybe there is actually two overworked OSA types that spent their entire lives on message boards, trying desperatly to make things go right.

But I doubt it. I think Sue is really what she says she is. A deluded illegal PC who hopes that by posting extensivly on OCMB, she will be allowed to buy overpriced thought reform session from CoS, in spite of the fact that one of her brother, whom she loves, belives and publicly says that scientology is an evil UFO cult. And in spite of the fact that she still cares for a mentaly ill familly member that should be disposed of instead of beeing loved.

Don't underestimate the power of self destruction.

These cases are well known and well documented in psychiatric research publications.,

But again I maybe wrong and maybe the nick is actually fed by an army of OSA robots.

But frankly, I don't think so.

Think Ockham's Razor:

If she writes like an old hag, well then she's probably an old hag.

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But I like her, like I used to like my old aunt Amy.
Amy was so nice when she was taking her meds.


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J. Swift wrote:
SuzanneMarie wrote:

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Haven't we been over this before? The US Naval Hospital in Washington, DC, was no longer in use as a hospital when LRH was living there.

It was converted into housing for veterans and their dependents, years before.

From 1907 to 1911, it was a Hospital Corps Training School.

From 1911 to 1922, it was an emergency hospital and HQ of the Naval Reserve, between times when it was vacant.

From 1922 to 1966, it was a temporary home for soldiers, sailors and marines.

http://www.oldnavalhospital.org/History_Main.html

http://www.oldnavalhospital.org/pr_main.html

You never read my links, do you? Scared of uploading a virus, or finding out stuff you did not know?

I'm sure you can make up some reason why LRH was designated not eligible to re-enlist in the Corps. To me it is one of those unsolved mysteries--speaking of which, here's 45 reasons to re-enlist:

http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm442786.html


SuzanneMarie, we are talking about two different hospitals -- and this is where it gets embarrassing for you: The ONH "Old Naval Hospital" only allowed veterans of the Civil War, or veterans (as in former military and not active duty or active reserve personnel. LRH was active duty) to stay for up to ten days. IIRC, Hubbard was not a Civil War veteran. Here is the actual quote from your link on the Old Naval Hospital; It looks like you quote the years in your post above, but then conveniently omitted the paragraph right under the years:

Quote:
1922 to 1966 - Temporary Home of Union Ex-Soldiers, Sailors and Marines:

In 1922, the Hospital was leased to the "Temporary Home of Union Ex-Soldiers, Sailors and Marines" for $1 a year. Operated by the Grand Army of the Republic, a Civil War veterans organization, it was essentially a hostel for veteran's who had business with the government in Washington. Veterans could stay for up to ten days if they met modest standards of proper behavior and assisted in cleaning duties



Suzy, my dear one, L. Ron Hubbard listed his address as the US Naval Hospital and not the Old Navy Hospital. These are two different and distinct names:

Old Naval Hospital -- For Civil War and other Veterans. Not for active duty personnel.

US Naval Hospital -- For active US Navy and Marine personnel.


Suzy, it appears that I have caught you in another Danny Sherman type of escapade. You want and need to sugarcoat LRH's biography. However, it all falls apart upon even the merest inspection. For example, you have claimed that the 3.5 year old Hubbard was used as a human ballast to help break broncos. Your claim was that wild horses are trained by placing small children upon them first and then working one's way up to an adult man. Well, Suzy, I went and looked at pictures of broncos being broken. There is no way any sane adult would put a small child on one these hombres:



Dear Swift,

The Old Naval Hospital was originally a training school, then a hospital, and then after 1922 a temporary home for soldiers, sailors and marines (not just Civil War Veterans, as you erroneously claim.)

LRH was not on active duty in the Marines when he gave his address as the Naval Hospital in Washington DC. If you think that LRH was actually a patient residing at the Naval Hospital on 23rd Street in Washington DC in the 1930s, I suggest that you obtain the patients' records from that institution and prove it.

Your ideas about horse training are evidently all based on lookin' at pictures of bucking broncos, which are not fit to be ridden except in rodeos.


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Ladybird wrote:
There are many "Suzanne Marie" personas posting here.


Liar.


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