Shawn Lonsdale Found dead

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Post by PTS » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:17 am

THE END!!!!!
Sorry folks but one more day would have been too much. I was in traffic early in the afternoon and a car pulled up and the guy yelled that "he was gonna fuckin kill me"...i reported it after trying to get close enough to get his tag but coulden't. He looked strangly familar!
This has to pause for a few till i can get some concrete rules down to start filming the second episode in this long series.
Now with a broken camera to replace i will take the down time to recouperate my mind and purpose.
I was served with a supbeona on sat. morn. to be deposed here in Clearwater on the LMT crapola....and recieved a 6 dollar check too!
Here are copies of all i have recieved to date...
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/ ... T10CVR.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/ ... 10-pg1.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/ ... 10-pg2.jpg
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http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/ ... MT10-p.jpg
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http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/ ... MT-sup.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/ ... -sup-1.jpg
Sorry i had to post this way but it's here...so..i want to thank you all for your support with this so far but remember it ain't over yet...this series will go on for a very long time. I will have to hit the streets frequently to gather as much as possable all the time so stay tuned for the video of the deposition as i plan to tape and air it.....hehehehe

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Post by PTS » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:24 am

Kilia wrote:PTS..where did you get this text from his videos?

Sorry, I'm pretty tired and bummed out.
I miss my Shawn!! :cry:
Kilia,
Be happy for having known him.

I have posted all that I have.
A lot of his posts contain some video.
Some of the vids no longer work.
I hope you enjoy.

All My Best.
PTS

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Post by Sponge » Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:26 am

Thanks indeed, PTS.

Kilia

Post by Kilia » Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:58 pm

Had a good nights sleep and thank you so much for everything, Sponge and PTS.
Much appreciated. :)

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Post by moontaco » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:20 pm

Echoing the appreciation--I was on vacation and missed this. (I am also glad to see that J Swift and Daywatch were able to come to an agreement not to continue duking it out here. :))

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Post by tom_ » Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:29 am

Thankyou PTS for all your archiving of Proflex's activities here.

I have taken a rather lengthy leave of absense from the $cn message board/s scenes, but upon my return, learning of Shawn's passing was a real whopper for me. Still having a hard time understanding this.

Again much appreciation PTS,

Tom
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Post by Sponge » Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:44 pm

tom_ wrote:Thankyou PTS for all your archiving of Proflex's activities here.

I have taken a rather lengthy leave of absense from the $cn message board/s scenes, but upon my return, learning of Shawn's passing was a real whopper for me. Still having a hard time understanding this.

Again much appreciation PTS,

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That was one of the reasons why I had started a "Tom - welfare check" thread recently. Since what had happened to Shawn, I now always remain vigilant and suspicious if any regulars suddenly disappear from the boards.
One can never be too careful.
Take care mate.

kindest regards,
Sponge

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Post by flippantmage » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:11 am

If anybody has been wondering why I've had a bug up my ass about the great defections of Marty Rathbun, Mike Rinder and Amy Scobee this thread should remind you why. These fucks know what happened to him and while they're getting touchy-feely about getting beat up by Slappy Miscaviage Shawn is still dead.

I am not going to argue with anybody about the suicide theory. I have never known anyone who could be depressed enough to kill themselves to have enough energy to go to such an elaborate way to commit suicide.

I firmly believe that his death was cooked up in a conference room where more than one of these ass-holes were present. A lot of good people who never had anything to do with this cult have been destroyed helping people leave, the least you exes can do is start coming forth with the truth. I don't want to hear anymore of this "I knew a guy who did this" or "some guy suggested that". Every ex I see comes out and says that DM is a sociopath while they compartmentalize all the horrific shit they've done to critics, other scientologists and their family members. Well guess what?, the ability to compartmentalize is the foundation of a sociopath.

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Post by Benny's Friend » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:00 am

I hear you, flippantmage. I arrived at OCMB the very same day Shawn Lonsdale’s death was announced --- and it totally sucked. I will never forget the look in Shawn's eye and the sound in his voice when he talked about those terrible signs about him posted on storefronts and telephone poles all about town. In my opinion, no matter who connected that hose to his window that day, Scientology is to blame.

That's what I thought then, and that's what I think now.
The more who speak out, the more who get out.

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Post by Don Carlo » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:45 am

I'm suspicious too, but who's going to spill the beans?

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Post by J. Swift » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:01 am

flippantmage wrote:If anybody has been wondering why I've had a bug up my ass about the great defections of Marty Rathbun, Mike Rinder and Amy Scobee this thread should remind you why. These fucks know what happened to him and while they're getting touchy-feely about getting beat up by Slappy Miscaviage Shawn is still dead.
Flippantimage, your anger doesn't align to the timeline:

1. Shawn was found dead on February 16th, 2008.

2. Mike Rinder blew in June, 2007 right after the BBC flap. He went to Tom De Vocht's house. De Vocht had blown in 2005.

3. Marty Rathbun blew in 2004.

4. Amy Scobee left in 2005.

I have always believed that Scientology had Shawn killed. IMO, the Cult hired professionals for the job and make it look like a suicide. There is no proof of course and CWPD ruled it a suicide. The Cult always hires third parties to do its dirty work. Mario Majorski was shot and killed by a retired LAPD officer and not a Scientologist. This was a justifiable homicide that got rid of one of Scientology's problems. Mario was killed on Nov 22, 2008, a little over nine months to the day that Shawn was found dead.

IMO, the security people who work for the Cult have the same malevolent "wanna kill" attitude as mercenaries. The Cult likes former law enforcement who have a bad attitude or who *retired* mid career like that USSS guy in the OC. Eugene Engram is a perfect example of a bad former cop with a brutal attitude. He took his brutality to work for the Cult.

Now that the big secret is out that DM is a brutal Cult Dictator, the public can see that he likes to hire brutal hired guns who share his hatred of people who get in Scientology's way. DM likes to hire PI's and goons who can intimidate, harass, or worse.

The picture now becomes much more clear: There are no OT powers, but there are hired thugs who have bad attitudes, carry permits, and blackmail from confessional folders. That is the kind of shop DM is running to protect his racket. This gangster attitude at the top of Scientology needs to be busted up.

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Post by curiosity » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:21 am

Keep in mind, too, that in most places there is no statute of limitations for murder. If any ex had been involved in arranging a "hit," he or she is unlikely to admit it even after leaving Scientology, and even if genuinely remorseful about it.

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Post by Simonymous » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:29 am

Mage, Swift is right, the timeline doesn't fit. However, there are many in Scientology for whom the timeline matches like two peas in a pod.

I'm still really angry at the whole thing. It still breaks my heart that he's gone. The crazy thing is, he wasn't even out to be a critic - a Scientologist got into it with him on an unrelated matter at a town hall meeting and then Scientology started spying on him.

I know that if Scientology didn't put a hose in Shawn's window, their treatment of him was a major motivation to push him to such a tragic outcome.

But I'm not posting just to rehash my sadness. I think you're right, Mage, on an important part: Someone in Scientology DOES know something. Maybe that someone has blown, or is considering blowing. And to that person, I ask:

PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING. TAKE YOUR INFORMATION TO THE AUTHORITIES.

Shawn was not some evil bastard who deserved to die. He was just a man who didn't deserve posters everyone, didn't deserve to be hunted down like a wild dog by Tommy "Psychotic" Davis. If you have any information, don't just do it for Shawn, do it for yourself. You'll gain immeasurable self-respect, as well as the gratitude of people all over the world.

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Post by J. Swift » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:33 pm

Shawn had become such an important person that the BBC noticed it and interviewed him. When John Sweeney from the BBC was interviewing Shawn on the roof of the building, Scientology knew it and Tommy Davis barged in on the scene. Shawn, typically witty and self-deprecating, made Tommy look like an idiot. Tommy made himself look like an idiot. The BBC incident humiliated Scientology.

My theory is that the Cult got some people from the ABC islands to kill Shawn. The Freewinds operates in Aruba, Bonaire, and Curacao and has deep contacts there; possibly contacts to launder money off the ship since the RRF is gone. Alternately, one of the Cult's PI's had contacts in Florida among the Haitian or Jamaican communities where drug murders go on routinely. Scientology has always used concentric layers of outsiders to shield itself. A PI is usually 2-3 steps removed from the Cult. I seriously doubt that anyone in Scientology knows who killed Shawn except for one person who has complete deniability. IMO, the actual hitmen were not Scientologists and are long gone,.

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Post by ladyhawke » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:10 pm

Thanks for all the work PTS.

Reading this, it sure made me miss Shawn too.

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