List Of Former Members Who Have Spoken Out

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List Of Former Members Who Have Spoken Out

Post by Sponge » Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:02 pm

ref: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/12-activ ... out-48237/
The Wiki project on this:
http://wiki.whyweprotest.net/List_of_ex ... spoken_out

EDIT: 22 July 09. Was 271 names, Now 400 and counting...
EDIT: 12 Nov 09. Now 771 names.
EDIT: March 2010 has 963names.
EDIT: April 2010: We have now passed the bi one thousand with 1021names
EDIT: September 2010. Now 1159 names
EDIT: October 2010. Now 1332 names
EDIT: JAN 2012. Now 1705 names *new back-up site: http://sites.google.com/site/biglisttha ... ientology/


Do you know, there are more ex-scientologists who have spoken out publically than there are Class VI auditors in scientology?

I will not be maintaining updates of the actual list here. Either go to the thread on WWP and add the name and any links/info and the OP will update the list over there. Alternatively, if you don't have an account on WWP post the info here and I or someone else here will repost it on WWP (or PM me).
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/12-activ ... out-48237/
WWP Wiki: http://wiki.whyweprotest.net/List_of_ex ... spoken_out
*Edit: the WWP wiki is broken again. There is a back-up site here: https://sites.google.com/site/biglistth ... ientology/

Edit: Changed title of thread -I'mglib
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Post by Sponge » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:38 am

edit: old list removed see above for links to the latest wiki
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Post by SuzanneMarie » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:56 am

Since when was Cynthia Kisser ever a Scientologist?

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Post by I'mglib » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:34 am

You're so funny SM. At least we know you are taking this list pretty darned seriously, most likely realizing how incredibly damaging it is.

So here you have combed through the 300+ names looking for an tiny question mark.

I'd be sweating over this if I were you, too.
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Post by Sponge » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:46 pm

I'mglib wrote:You're so funny SM. At least we know you are taking this list pretty darned seriously, most likely realizing how incredibly damaging it is.

So here you have combed through the 300+ names looking for an tiny question mark.

I'd be sweating over this if I were you, too.
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Post by newclear » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:07 pm

As they say in the Church: Everyone's a Scientologist, they just haven't cognited. So, shouldn't there be 6 billion names?
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Post by SuzanneMarie » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:59 pm

I'mglib wrote:You're so funny SM. At least we know you are taking this list pretty darned seriously, most likely realizing how incredibly damaging it is.

So here you have combed through the 300+ names looking for an tiny question mark.
No, I read the list over looking for names of people I know personally (not from this forum).

There wasn't anyone I know there, except Martha Greene, and I barely knew her; not sure if I ever spoke to her.

How do you figure that this list is incredibly damaging?

Are these people more dangerous to CoS now that their names are on a list?
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Post by Sponge » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:38 am

SuzanneMarie wrote:
How do you figure that this list is incredibly damaging?

Are these people more dangerous to CoS now that their names are on a list?

It's not the size of your list, its what you do with it, as they say.

Well, for one thing, when it is webbed and wikified, with additional background material, etc then it will be more accessible for the mainstream media in search of source when researching stories damaging to your cult.
Increased popularity of such a resource, something which anonymous is particularly good at, will encourage more to speak out.

Also, it must be pretty disheartenting to your average longtime scientologist who may have known a few people on that list, including some top auditors and other higher-ups who they once looked up to, perhaps having some good times with, and are now supposed to believe they are all evil people on the say-so of OSA PR.

Do you think they are all bad people?
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Post by newclear » Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:50 am

Practically all of the staff who built the original Saint Hill are actually evil suppressives.

http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/article ... -it-strike
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Post by Wieber » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:57 am

newclear wrote:Practically all of the staff who built the original Saint Hill are actually evil suppressives.

http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/article ... -it-strike
I have asked this question when I was in scientology and I got blank stares, glib comments and a changed subject. I'll ask it again after I set it up.

If you click the link and look at the list you will see many people who have been "declared suppressive" who are shown to have attained the "state of clear." If those people had attained the "state of clear" then according to Hubbard's writings those people must have had "case gain." Also according to Hubbard's writings the primary attribute of a suppressive person is that they do not have "case gain."

If a person has attained the "state of clear" or become any level of "OT" then per scientology's own writings that person has had "case gain."

Here's the question.

How is it that a person who has had "case gain" can be a "suppressive person?"

Now back to the thread topic.

One thing that makes the list valuable is that it puts in one place all the names of all the people who were members of scientology who have spoken or written out.

Going through the list, I recognized some names I had heard before and went and searched them with Google. Oh my my, what I found showed me that yet one more time again scientology is worse than I had thought.

For researchers and journalists this is an excellent resource as it will save them much time and effort in their search for information about scientology.
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Post by daisy » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:24 pm

SuzanneMarie wrote:
I'mglib wrote:You're so funny SM. At least we know you are taking this list pretty darned seriously, most likely realizing how incredibly damaging it is.

So here you have combed through the 300+ names looking for an tiny question mark.
No, I read the list over looking for names of people I know personally (not from this forum).

There wasn't anyone I know there, except Martha Green, and I barely knew her; not sure if I ever spoke to her.

How do you figure that this list is incredibly damaging?

Are these people more dangerous to CoS now that their names are on a list?
Ewww, I just threw up in my mouth.

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Post by SuzanneMarie » Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:39 am

daisy wrote:
SuzanneMarie wrote:
I'mglib wrote:You're so funny SM. At least we know you are taking this list pretty darned seriously, most likely realizing how incredibly damaging it is.

So here you have combed through the 300+ names looking for an tiny question mark.
No, I read the list over looking for names of people I know personally (not from this forum).

There wasn't anyone I know there, except Martha Green, and I barely knew her; not sure if I ever spoke to her.

How do you figure that this list is incredibly damaging?

Are these people more dangerous to CoS now that their names are on a list?
Ewww, I just threw up in my mouth.

Martha Greene
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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:56 am

Having some fun on clambake SuzzanneMarie?

I'm glad.

Because being a scientologist right now can't be too
much fun.

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Post by Sponge » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:22 am

Some great responses on wwp. More added to the list. Last count was about 350. Check out the wwp thread link for the latest
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/12-activ ... out-48237/

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Post by Sponge » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:57 pm

Sponge wrote:Some great responses on wwp. More added to the list. Last count was about 350. Check out the wwp thread link for the latest
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/12-activ ... out-48237/
List is now at 400+ names. The OP quoted list in this thread has been updated.

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