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 Post subject: FRANCE: Court Ruling on Scientology cases *** GUILTY ***
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:17 am 
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Summary:
1. GUILTY Alain Rosenberg. 2 years prison (suspended) 30,000E fine *+
2. GUILTY Didier Michaux 18months Prison (suspended) 20,000E fine *
3. GUILTY Jean-François Valli 18months Prison (suspended) 10,000E fine *
4. GUILTY Sabine Jacquart 10months Prison (suspended) 5,000E fine *+
5. GUILTY Aline Fabre 2,000E fine ~
6. GUILTY Marie Anne Pasturel 1,000E fine ~
7. GUILTY Celebrity Centre 400,000E fine *. Ordered to publish details of judgment.
8. GUILTY Scientology Bookstore 200,000E fine *. Ordered to publish details of judgment.

* = organized fraud
+ = complicity in the illegal exercise of pharmacy
~ = illegal exercise of pharmacy

Note: (7) & (8 ) are ordered to pay for the details of the conviction to be published in the major French and English-language news outlets including Le Monde, Le Figaro, Libération, the Herald Tribune and Time Magazine – and their websites.
Other individual orders and penalties such as for damages and costs awarded to the plaintiffs add further 27,450 Euros to the total.
For further details, see journailst Jonny Jacobsens court coverage on his excellent blog, "Infinite Complaceny" at: http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com ... uling.html


Will tidy up the following into a few decent detailed english reports as it comes in....

VIDEO: BBC: French Scientology fraud conviction
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8328506.stm

VIDEO: CNN, TV news Report...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXwPZEx9ivU
(unresrticted mirror: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgbQ3cS3r-s )

VIDEO: More CCN reports. Interviews scientologist Eric Roux.
http://us.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2 ... victed.cnn (1m:53s)
http://us.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2 ... d.reax.cnn (5m:30s)
[some fantastic still footage of protest signs from about 3m:40s... including an advert for xenu.net :)]

VIDEO: AP News Report - Scientology convicted of Fraud
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/ ... 4&src=news
(youtube version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9lHmFpICb8 )

VIDEO: AFP News Report - Scientologists convicted of fraud in France

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k-TGQQ477M

VIDEO: CBS2 News report - French court finds scientology guilty of fraud
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/ ... 8&src=news

VIDEO: Scientology fraud conviction in France- Today Tonight report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQeUtfFoRG0

VIDEO: FRANCE24: French court convicts Church of Scientology of fraud (in English)
http://www.france24.com/en/20091027-cou ... rance-sect

VIDEO: MSNBC Today Show with Matt Lauer
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/ ... 4#33504754
YouTube version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yelv7ncivi8

VIDEO: Australia. SunriseOn7 Scientology defends their very bad week on The Morning Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSnU_rVOR9k

VIDEO: Netherlands: Freezoner Interviewed on Morning Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsPZGv37PQA (subtitled)

VIDEO: XenuTV - Scientology Convicted of Fraud in France
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnFkPYBNIDg

Audio: BBC World Service Radio, Newshour 9pm GMT 27/10/09 .....
Interview with ex-scientologist, critic and author of "The Complex", John Duignan, scientology PR Graeme Wilson, and religious commentators.
General analysis, Cult vs. Religion.
BBC I-Player: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p004t1vb
(scroll to 26m:35s for the scientology report)
If you can't use the i-player facility or when it scrolls off their system....
Here's an Audio download (8Mb):
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yzliru0zydy
(it's ogg format which should play in most decent media players)


BBC News...
Scientologists convicted of fraud
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8327569.stm

Quote:
A French court has convicted the Church of Scientology of fraud, but stopped short of banning the group from operating in France.

Two branches of the group's French operations and its leader in France have been fined, reports say.

The case centred on a complaint by a woman who says she was pressured into paying large sums of money after being offered a free personality test.

The Church denied that any mental manipulation took place.

France regards Scientology as a sect, not a religion and prosecutors had asked for the group's French operations to be dissolved.

Instead, a judge ordered the Church's Celebrity Centre and a bookshop to pay a 600,000 euro (£544,000) fine, AFP news agency reported.

Alain Rosenberg, the group's head in France, was handed a two-year suspended jail sentence and fined 30,000 euros, the report said.

In ruling that the group did not need to shut down, the court argued that it would be likely to continue its activities anyway, "outside any legal framework".

[EDIT: This report has been updated. Click above link for more]


I'll keep 1st hand hand english reports in this top post. Most 2nd hand english reports over the next few hours will likely be based on what we already have on the AP, AFP & Reuters feeds here .....

AFP Feed......
Scientology convicted of organised fraud in France
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... OwQxcAnMmQ

Quote:
Scientology convicted of organised fraud in France
(AFP) – 1 hour ago

PARIS — A French court convicted the Church of Scientology and one of its leaders of defrauding vulnerable members on Tuesday, but stopped short of banning the group's activities in France.

The Celebrity Centre and a bookshop -- the two branches of Scientology's French operations -- were ordered to pay a 600,000-euro (900,000-dollar) fine for preying financially on its followers in the 1990s.

Scientology's leader in France Alain Rosenberg was handed a two-year suspended jail sentence and fined 30,000 euros on the same charge.

A lawyer for Scientology's French operations said he would appeal.

The Paris case was launched after a complaint from two women, one of whom says she was manipulated into handing over 20,000 euros for costly products, including an "electrometer" to measure mental energy.

A second plaintiff alleges she was forced by her Scientologist employer to undergo testing and enroll in courses in 1998. When she refused she was fired.

Prosecutors originally asked the court to order the Celebrity Centre and bookshop to be dismantled in addition to a hefty fine.

But last month the French courts were alerted to a little-noticed legal change voted in by parliament in May -- the month the trial opened -- which bars French courts from dissolving an organisation convicted of fraud.

Although the change has since been dropped, this was not retrospective and thus Scientology was protected from an outright ban in the ongoing case, forcing the court to downgrade the sentence.

"A ban on its activities would have risked taking us outside the framework of the law," said judge Sophie-Helene Chateau.

Founded in the United States in 1954 by science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the Church of Scientology is officially recognised as a religion by US authorities and claims a worldwide membership of 12 million.

In 1995 it was officially classified as a cult in France, where it claims 45,000 followers.


AP Feed.....
French fraud conviction for Church of Scientology
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... AD9BJCG1G1

Quote:
(AP)
French fraud conviction for Church of Scientology

PARIS — A Paris court has convicted the Church of Scientology's French branch of fraud and fined it euro400,000 ($600,000) but stopped short of a ban on the group that was sought by prosecutors.

The court on Tuesday convicted four of six leaders of the group of organized fraud for pressuring members into paying large sums of money for questionable financial gain. It handed them suspended sentences of between 10 months and two years. The other two were given fines of euro1,000 and euro2,000.

The court did not order the group to shut down, ruling that it would be likely to continue its activities anyway, "outside any legal framework."

Prosecutors had requested that the group be dissolved in France and be fined euro2 million.

Updated AP report....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091027/ap_ ... cientology


Reuters....
French court fines Scientologists, allows operations
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNew ... HD20091027
Quote:
French court fines Scientologists, allows operations
Tuesday, October 27, 2009

PARIS (Reuters) - A Paris court on Tuesday fined the French branch of the Church of Scientology a total of 600,000 euros ($902,200) after finding it guilty of fraud but allowed the group to continue operating in France.

When the hearing opened, there were expectations that the court could order the group to be banned in France but due to a mixup over a law that passed in parliament just before the start of the trial in May, that option was ruled out.

Under the law it is no longer possible to punish a fraudulent organization with dissolution.

The court handed down suspended prison sentences ranging from 10 months to two years and fines of 5,000 euros to 30,000 euros to four leaders of the group in France.

The case was brought by two former members who said they were cajoled into spending 21,000 euros and 49,500 euros on personality tests, vitamin cures, sauna sessions and "purification packs."


Scientology, which is officially considered a sect in France, denies fraud and is expected to appeal. (Reporting by Thierry Leveque; Writing by Sophie Taylor)

Updated Reuters report....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091027/ts_ ... ogy_ruling
Image
"Spokeswoman for the Church of Scientology Danielle Gounord speaks to
the media after a hearing at Paris court October 27, 2009. A Paris court
on Tuesday fined the French branch of the Church of Scientology a total of
600,000 euros ($902,200) after finding it guilty of fraud but allowed the
group to continue operating in France. REUTERS/Jacky Naegelen"


UK Press Association......
Fraud conviction for Scientologists
Quote:
Fraud conviction for Scientologists
(UKPA) – 25 minutes ago
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpres ... GJ3b2wL9-Q
A Paris court has convicted the Church of Scientology of fraud and fined it more than half a million euros - but stopped short of banning the group as requested by prosecutors.

The group's French branch immediately announced it would appeal against the verdict.

The court convicted the Church of Scientology's French office, its library and six of its leaders of fraud after investigators said the group pressured members into paying large sums of money for questionable financial gain and used "commercial harassment" against recruits.

The group was fined 400,000 euro (£362,000) and the library 200,000 euro (£181,000). Four of the leaders were given suspended sentences of between 10 months and two years. The other two were given fines of 1,000 euro (£907) and 2,000 euro (£1,814).

The court did not order the Church of Scientology to shut down, ruling that it would be likely to continue its activities anyway, "outside any legal framework."

Prosecutors had requested that the group be dissolved in France and be fined two million euro.

The Los Angeles-based Church of Scientology, founded in 1954 by the late science fiction writer L Ron Hubbard, has been active for decades in Europe, but has struggled to gain status as a religion. It is considered a sect in France and has faced prosecution and difficulties in registering its activities in many countries.

Defence lawyer Patrick Maisonneuve said during the trial that neither the Church of Scientology nor the six leaders on trial had gained financially from the group's practices.

The original complaint in the case dates back more than a decade, when a young woman said she took out loans and spent the equivalent of 21,000 euro (£19,000) on books, courses and "purification packages" after being recruited in 1998. When she sought reimbursement and to leave the group, its leadership refused. She was among three eventual plaintiffs.

Investigating judge Jean-Christophe Hullin spent years examining the group's activities, and in his indictment criticised what he called the Scientologists' "obsession" with financial gain and practices he said were aimed at plunging members into a "state of subjection."


CNN......
French court convicts Church of Scientology of fraud
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europ ... ogy.fraud/
Quote:
Paris, France (CNN) -- A French court on Tuesday convicted the Church of Scientology and six of its members of organized fraud, but stopped short of banning the church.

The court also fined the members as much as 400,000 euros ($595,000) each.

The decision follows a three-week trial in May and June, during which two plaintiffs said they were defrauded by the organization, which is classified as a sect in France.

The Church of Scientology has about 45,000 followers in France, and some of them were in court Tuesday.

The church had said before the verdict that it would appeal any judgment against it.

The judge at the Correctional Court in Paris said the church may continue its activities in France, but he said those activities must remain "on the correct side of the law."

As part of the penalties, the church was ordered to publish the results of the verdict in several national and international magazines to warn people, the judge said, about what Scientology offers and what was discovered at trial.

The plaintiffs focused their complaints on the use of a device that Scientologists say measures spiritual well-being. Members used the electropsychometer, or E-Meter, to "locate areas of spiritual duress or travail so they can be addressed and handled," according to Scientology's Web site.

The plaintiffs said that, after using the device, they were encouraged to pay for vitamins and books. They said that amounted to fraud.

Prosecutors had asked for the dissolution of the church and its Paris bookstore.


Expect more as and when the full judgment gets digested and translated

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Scientology convicted of organised fraud in France(AFP) – 30 minutes ago

PARIS — A French court convicted the Church of Scientology and one of its leaders of fraud on Tuesday, but stopped short of banning the group's activities in France.

The Celebrity Centre and a book shop -- the two branches of Scientology's French operations -- were ordered to pay a 600,000-euro (900,000-dollar) fine for preying financially on vulnerable followers.

Scientology's leader in France Alain Rosenberg was handed a two-year suspended jail sentence and fined 30,000 euros on the same charge.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... OwQxcAnMmQ


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http://www.connexionfrance.com/news_art ... hp?id=1158
Same info as previous reports except:
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The lawyer for the organisation said they would appeal immediately.

Lol, That'll be interesting, whilst the cult continues to fall apart around them.
They should consider themselves lucky and risk getting a higer sentence on appeal (if it works the same in French law).

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Fantastic and it gets even better

According to CNN

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europ ... ogy.fraud/


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As part of the penalties, the church was ordered to publish the results of the verdict in several national and international magazines to warn people, the judge said, about what Scientology offers and what was discovered at trial.



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First take summarising the verdicts and sentences up now at
Infinity Complacency.
http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com ... uling.html
More follows (after lunch!)...
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^^Awesome Jonny. I've updated my brief summary and added your link at the top post.

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Oh... HAPPY DAYS!!!!!!!!!

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I wonder if the Church of Scientology will declare SP ALAIN ROSENBERG and the other convicted guilty defendants. After all, the now have a CRIMINAL RECORD which should minimally make them PTS Type B.

Oooooo... and Alain has a wife and son and daughter in law in Scientology. I wonder if they get declared, too, or pressured to disconnect. Hmm...

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MOST EXCELLENT!

As I said earlier, I had 10-27 marked on my calendar.


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Nice to see the RULE OF LAW is still alive and well in france. I hope this has some impact here in the states. Talk about waking up to a cup-o-WIN!


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CNN scrolling headlines at bottom of screen.

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Edit: Thank's Sea Horse, it makes all the text on forum page much easier to read without scrolling left-right due to mega-wide inline images.

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Vive la France!


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Awesome news.

I just heard it on the radio this morning while I was getting ready for work. Woot!

The radio station will do a whole segment on it later after noon sometime.

KFI640.com

I wonder if they will take callers....

Does anyone know Jonny Jacobson's number?

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At Infinite Complacency, I've updated details of the sentencing and how it
effects the various plaintiffs, with a little more detail on the defendants'
obligation to publicise the convictions.

http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com ... uling.html

A detailed breakdown of the ruling will have to wait I'm afraid.

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