C of $ "Ethics" Crap

[SchwimmelPuckel]

A little story about CoS ethics shit, complete with picture! .. With me as a badass(not) Guardians Office gestapo officer..



The Publications Org, NEPI needed/wanted a giant (2,5 meter high)Dianetics book for a bookfair in Copenhagen.. So I was asked to do that. Make a big wooden box and paint it. ASAP, because the book fair was in a couple of days.

Work was done at Pubs Org's storage area. The Guadian's Office EU was in that same building complex at the time.

When I started painting, somebody from Pubs org came around and started complaining about me being there.. I was in the way and so forth. I was Def-T in scientology parlance.. And who the hell was I anyway? - I could'nt get to answer the guy, since he yelled 'shit - fuck' at me and explained all over that I was a bloody nuisance and why.

Someone else from Pubs hurried over and explained to the complainer that I was from the GO and me being there was OK'ed by the CO.. That made him shut up instantly, looking apprehensive.

So I said: 'Hey, Relax! - I'm not going to report anyone!', and I explained that I'd be done by day after tomorrow.. And that the damned thing was for Pubs Orgs own blasted bookfair.

Heh.. After they left I got on with the painting.. But I wondered if -I- would now get a Knowledge Report written on me, for being 'reasonable' and failing write one on the complainer!


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Ask not what Scientology can do for you, ask what the F*arck! is going on.

[I_feel_great!]

OK, this isn’t about an ethics handling exactly, but it’s similar to Tory’s story re her stolen FSM commission:

When I was on staff, between having a well-paying “moonlight” job and enough auditors that there was more free staff auditing than at most orgs, I had quite a bit of auditing. It used to annoy the hell out of me that every time the objectionable behavior of someone else came up in session, I just HAD to be guilty of some withhold. I would always hope that the ARCx question wouldn’t read because of the latest asshole behavior of our snotty bitch of an ED, because I knew if it did we’d have to waste time finding and talking about some inconsequential thing I did, or a made-up “whole track” thing if I couldn’t think of anything else. My needle would eventually float, but I would think “I still think she’s an asshole!” but keep my mouth shut so that we wouldn’t waste more session time.

I assumed at the time that my situation was unique, but now I wonder how common this sort of thing is.

Thanks for giving me this opportunity to vent, Tory
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I may have written it before but it applies to this thread.

This happened when I was on staff at a class 5 org.

My sister came to visit for a month from another country. I could only take two weeks off post to be with her full time. The first two weeks I worked and tried to leave the org on time, so I could arrive home around 7 PM.

At that time I was nearing the completion of my full hat course,(which of course was done after post time, in the evening). A full hat completion is very good for (as I recall) the stats of HCO (Hubbard Communication Office) and the Ethics Officer is in the HCO department.

After the first day that I left on time, the EO came to see me, about 30 minutes before the end of the working day and told me that I need to go on course. I told him about my sister, and that I would make up the time I missed after my sister gone back.

His reply was that if I didn't go back on course, straight away, I wouldn't be allowed the two weeks off and I would be put into the condition of Treason. . But I realised that I had no choice but do as he said, so I just told him that I'd be back in the academy that night. When he left I cried and cried.

I finished the course and everybody cheered for me, but even though I smiled (I couldn't afford to show any sign of bad indicators for fear of ethics or re studying some of the materials) I was very upset.

BTW, the completion of the course was a huge charade, because it was very close to the end of my contract and I made it very clear to the Ethics Oficr (EO) that there was no way I was going to sign another contract, But as I said, it was great for his stats . He was both the HAS and the EO and he himself has barely done any studies at all in the academy while he tried to push every other staff member to do their "enhancement."

I took the two weeks off, only because I was able to pay someone two weeks salary for holding my post. The person was happy to replace me because what I paid him was much more than he earned on staff.

I had a good time with my sister, but the whole affair has left her with a very bad impression of the cult.

Opter

[SchwimmelPuckel]

[RedPill]

By late 79 I had the definite feeling that something was very wrong, and that only intensified thru 80 and 81. I got into trouble in 80 being assigned "doubt" but did nothing about it whatsoever and eventually the condition was lifted. By late 81 I was notified that I was more "org public" and didn't need to come around the mission anymore, but, by that time, I largely didn't give a shit, and, had a job offer out in California and was moving anyways.

What did I do to piss them off? Besides some personal issues that I was dealing with that I was accused of letting spill over into the mission and "enturbulate" ... there were three themes of J&D that seemed to get under the ED's skin. First ... I would constantly refer to the ethics officer as the "ethnics officer" and the various conditions would be various ethnicities, the lowest one being "Irish Immigrant circa late 1840's" (they were not all that welcome here during the patato famine in Ireland) Next, with all of the (at the time) latest reports of various old-timers, known OT mission holders, being "out ethics" or declared ... I would do this routine in a Russian accent about whoever it was being a "Trotskyite revisionist counter-revolutionary", pointing out the similarity between the power plays during the Stalin era of the USSR and what was going on in Cof$. This seemed to strike a nerve and cause raised eyebrows. Finally, my ongoing joke of selling "Scientology pre-requisite insurance" as more and more arbitraries were added, making it increasingly difficult to make progress on the "bridge". This got a few laughs at first, but eventually caused more raised eyebrows.

Being assigned "doubt" was a major ARC break for me, and, having to jump thru all of the hoops when I felt that the condition was horseshit seemed overwhelming. Even after the condition was lifted, I really didn't want to come into the mission anymore, the "bridge" seemed increasingly out of reach and was becoming a huge failed purpose anyways.

When I went out to California, I considered getting on lines at the San Diego org, but, time wise it seemed an impossibility and I was dealing with two jobs at the time plus a hot affair with some chick. The affair was a whole lot more interesting to me than constantly shlepping down to San Diego from where I was living in what little spare time I had. Finally, I got the word in January of 82 that the Connecticut missions under Brown McKee broke away from Cof$, causing me to realize that something was definitely wrong. Nevertheless, I still had a teeny tiny reservation about it all until I read the Corydon book in 1989. I remember my heart pounding as I read the OTIII material. I nearly died ... of laughter! The spell was completely broken, until the internet and my obsession with being an "ex".

I am hoping for closure with news of the final collapse of the Cof$. I just hope that it doesn't happen in such fashion as to cause people here in this country to reconsider their rights guaranteed via the first ammendment.

Meanwhile, having read the accounts of abuse and hardships on the part of various sea ogres ... I find it amazing how some have been able to bounce back, recover, do well, etc. In spite of my involvement being not nearly as heavy, I still feel deeply scarred and wounded nor in all this time have I been able to really bounce back or do well.

Pete

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[ZenuEtrawl]

Sorry to hear about your weird experience, Tory. Bob and Sherese are some of those old school reg types (going back to Martin Samuels' mid-70s Sacramento). I expect that you were one of many, over the years.

As for myself, most of my creepy experiences with Ethics were on a different flow, since I was HCO staff a lot of the time. I was involved in many disconnections (at least 3/4 of those were from family), many and various "justice" actions against staff and the occasional public, and a lot of other ridiculous things, like attempting to counsel gay and lesbian members who were forbidden from acting on their feelings, but who continued to have the same feelings no matter how close to bankruptcy they let the regges take them.

Maybe that's a good topic, since the CoS denies it so completely.

Back when there were still laws telling consenting adults what they could or could not legally do in their own bedrooms, it was considered a high crime to be GLBT, with anti-sodomy laws as the justification - doing something illegal put scientology at risk. (In the jurisdiction I was in, there were no laws that would have applied to lesbians, but they would be treated identically, just because. I'm thinking that it was considered a risk of PR flap, even if no laws were broken.) LRH had never been the least bit sympathetic towards the GLBT community, clearly considered them perverted/insane, and really excluded them from ever being able to say that their orientation was ethical. When making babies is the core of the definition of "second dynamic," how could you ever do a 2D doubt formula (or any ethics action, for that matter) and decide that it was okay to do something which was incapable of making babies?

I knew of two execs who were abruptly offloaded for being lesbians, although there were (inevitably) other charges added to their comm evs to make them seem categorically awful and give a bit of smokescreen to the real reason. But the staff all knew the real reason, and when discussing it among themselves, never brought up any of that other stuff...

I remember one guy, in SoCal, who was public, and just as gay as could be. It wasn't that he SEEMED especially gay or anything, most people who knew him probably had no idea. He was being celibate, in order to keep from being crucified by yours truly, and the "Ethics" machine in general. Hubbard had made it clear that dn/scn was supposed to be able to cure his queerness, and he really WANTED to be straight. He had spent every penny he could come up with on auditing, was still attracted to men, had gone ridiculously into debt to get more, and was still attracted to men. When I talked to him, he was at wit's end, and was quickly approaching the point where he might have been considered a suicide risk. I tried to help him feel better, but really, my hands were tied. I couldn't tell him that it was okay to be gay, or in any way suggest that he couldn't be "cured" of it.

Some "ethics cycles" seemed terrible at the time, but the sting faded over the years. That one, on the other hand, just seems worse and worse as time goes by. When it was happening, it was just difficult and unpleasant to deal with, but I was still too brainwashed to feel guilty about it personally. I still thought that maybe he'd be "cured." Now, in retrospect, my role, and the role of everyone in Dept 3 who dealt with GLBT folks, seems horrible. What we did was simply WRONG. I only hope that the poor guy got out before he killed himself.

Another interesting topic could be punishing people for finding out bad things about scientology. Yes, you could get yourself dragged into a very serious ethics action for knowingly reading "entheta." But I'll save that subject for another time.