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Part One: The Scientology Diaspora

There is now a global Scientology Diaspora Movement that is linked by the internet. The Diaspora operates under the names of the Freezone and the Independents. There are also many informal groups in the Scientology Diaspora.

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A diaspora (in Greek, διασπορά – "a scattering [of seeds]") is any movement of a population sharing common national and/or ethnic identity. While refugees may or may not ultimately settle in a new geographic location, the term diaspora refers to a permanently displaced and relocated collective...

In all cases, the term diaspora carries a sense of displacement; that is, the population so described finds itself for whatever reason separated from its national territory; and usually its people have a hope, or at least a desire, to return to their homeland at some point, if the "homeland" still exists in any meaningful sense. Some writers have noted that diaspora may result in a loss of nostalgia for a single home as people "re-root" in a series of meaningful displacements. In this sense, individuals may have multiple homes throughout their diaspora, with different reasons for maintaining some form of attachment to each. Diasporic cultural development often assumes a different course from that of the population in the original place of settlement. Over time, remotely separated communities tend to vary in culture, traditions, language and other factors. The last vestiges of cultural affiliation in a diaspora is often found in community resistance to language change and in maintenance of traditional religious practice.

ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora

In thinking about labels and terms, I have decided to label Marty Rathbun and his increasingly militant group as follows:

1. "Scientology Diasporas" or just "Diasporas." I will be calling them "SD's" for short. Like the OG and Anonymous, the SD's now have a distinctive identity.

1A. The SD's are not critics. They are not OG or Anonymous. They are SD's. My view is that the SD's are, in pragmatic terms, allies only on the subjects of David Miscavige and exposing the abuses of CoS. Aside from these two important aspects, SD's are dedicated Scientologists. I have never opposed the peaceful, nonviolent practice of Scientology. To the extent that the SD's become belligerent Homo Novis, I will oppose them by nonviolent means. In practical terms, this means documenting their writings and actions that are doctrinally consistent with that of CoS.

2. "Diaspora Scientology" refers to the practice of doctrinaire Scientology by Diaspora Scientologists. The SD's as a class oppose David Miscavige and OSA while embracing Scientology doctrine.

3. Based upon the inherent fascism of Scientology that SD's embrace, I am henceforth rejecting as misleading and false these labels:

Freezone: There is nothing "free" about Scientology. Scientology is psychological slavery and idolatry. Scientology is a Cult of Personality. There is nothing to praise about L. Ron Hubbard's demented, toxic system. We have sixty years of evidence showing that doctrinaire Scientology inevitably results in a fascist worldview.

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There is no independence in the ball and chain of LRH Scientology. DM is simply the most malignant indicator in the larger overt product known as Scientology.

As with any group of dispersed people who share a common identity, Diaspora Scientologists appear to be having an extremely hard time living outside of their traditional identity in CoS. This is seen in the insular aggression developing in the so-called "Independent" members of the Scientology Diaspora. The epithet "Scientology Haters" is being used by Diaspora leaders to effect and enforce a Psychological Isolation-in-Exile under the pretense of esprit de corps. Disconnection and Dead Agenting seem to be alive and well the Scientology Diaspora. Thankfully, the budget of SD leaders is extremely limited. They are forced to defend on the even playing field of the internet. Gone are the unlimited OSA budgets to which certain SD leaders were formerly accustomed.

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Part Two: Scientology as a Borderless Psycho-Police State

Properly understood, the Church of Scientology is a borderless Psycho-Police State that immerses its members into an increasingly intrusive system of interrogation, thought control, and unquestioning obedience. CoS is able to do this by falsely calling its ideology The Bridge to Total Freedom.

CoS indoctrinates its members into a militaristic-occult, ideological "plug and play" identity system known as Homo Novis. While the CoS Homo Novis system cannot be as forcefully applied in the SD Movement, the essential CoS elements of isolation and propaganda continue in the SD Movement.

At present, the negative force of the CoS Scientology system is exceeding the threshold and tolerance of even the most robust OT's. The phenomenon knowing as "snapping" appears to be occurring more often within CoS. From a Non-Scientologist perspective, a "Psych Break" could be seen as snapping. Likewise with PTS Type III. CoS self-servingly reinterprets well-documented psychological phenomena in any case.

As a general prediction, snapping events in CoS will intensify in 2010. The Scientology Diaspora Movement will continue to exacerbate the extreme tensions in the CoS Police State in 2010.

The SD Movement is creating a space into which CoS Scientologists can escape. SD's are promoting themselves as a better alternative to CoS. However, doctrines such as "Homo Novis" remain fascist in any frame of reference. Unless the SD Movement ideologically reformulates Scientology to negate the worst aspects of doctrinaire Scientology, the SD's have accomplished nothing meaningful except to repudiate DM and OSA. Can the SD Movement re-conceptualize Scientology for the 21st century? Can the SD Movement make the needed changes?


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Food for Thought: The future of Scientology altogether may be as a Diaspora. If CoS suffers a series of "Big Tabacco" type of class action lawsuits and loses, Scientology may come to only exist as a Diaspora. In this quote below, replace "homeland" with CoS:

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To understand a diaspora's politics, one must first understand its historical context and attachments: A diaspora is a transnational community that defined itself as a singular ethnic group based upon its shared identity. Diasporas result from historical emigration from an original homeland. In modern cases, this migration can be historically documented, and the diaspora associated with a certain territory. Whether this territory is in fact the homeland of a specific ethnic group, is a political matter. The older the migration, the less evidence there is for the event: in the case of the Roma people the migration, the homeland, and the migration route have not yet been accurately determined. A claim to a homeland always has political connotations, and is often disputed.

Self-identified diasporas place great importance on their homeland, because of their ethnic and cultural association with it - especially if it has been 'lost' or 'conquered'. This has led ethnic nationalist movements within several diasporas, often resulting in the establishment of a sovereign homeland. But even when these are established, it is rare for the complete diaspora population to return to the homeland, and the remaining diaspora community typically retains significant emotional attachment to the homeland, and the co-ethnic population there.

Ethnic diaspora communities are now recognized by scholars as "inevitable" and "endemic" features of the international system, writes Yossi Shain and Tamara Cofman Wittes[1], for the following reasons:

1. First, within each of a diaspora's host states, resident members can organize domestically to maximize their political clout.
2. Second, a diaspora can exert significant pressure in its homeland's domestic political arena regarding issues of diaspora concern.
3. Lately, a diaspora's transnational community can engage directly with third-party states and international organizations, in effect bypassing its homeland and host state governments.

Diasporas are thus perceived as transnational political entities, operating on "behalf of their entire people", and capable of acting independently from any individual state (be it their homeland or host states.)

ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora_politics

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Part Three: The Litmus Test: Homo Novis

My personal Litmus Test in assessing Scientologists is their acceptance or rejection of L. Ron Hubbard's hateful, pernicious doctrines of Homo Novis and PTS/SP.

1. L. Ron Hubbard declared that Scientologists exist at a level above human. Homo Novis is the belief in racial superiority that justifies the attitude that Scientology is above the law. Homo Novis is the belief that only Scientologists are the authorities on the mind, education, drug treatment, business management. In essence, Homo Novis is blatant contempt and hatred directed at all Non-Scientologists who are not in agreement with the aims and purposes of CoS. In other words, those below 2.0 who should be disposed of quietly and without sorrow.

2. Homo Novis gives rise to the doctrine of PTS/SP. Essentially, anyone who disagrees with the Scientologist is branded PTS or SP and handled in one of two ways. The Scientologist seeks to get someone who is PTS to comply with the aims and goals of Scientology. Failing this, the Scientologist disconnects. An SP, as has been shown, is subject to Fair Game by the Scientologist. PTS/SP is the mindset of violence. The PTS/SP doctrine is a hateful attack on any disagreement towards Scientology. PTS/SP is the angry violence of Scientologists threatening to harm people in various ways if Scientology does not get its way.

2A. Scientology created a series entitled Can We Ever Be Friends? A section of the audio is played on this video: http://noolmusic.com/google_videos/scie ... riends.php

2B. The PTS/SP doctrine is Scientology's extremist rejection of Western Democracy and its demanding multicultural, pluralistic, secular orientation.

2C. The PTS/SP doctrine is Scientology's way to ideologically justify its extremist agenda while calling it religion.

2D. The PTS/SP doctrine is Scientology's ideological justification for Cultic isolation as a way to conceal its Master Race agenda from the outside world.

3. As L. Ron Hubbard said, and David Miscavige repeated, "Suppression" is the only thing that can stop Scientology's expansion. In Scientologese, "Suppression" is broadly defined as any disagreement with the Master Race aims and purposes of Scientology. Hence, Scientologists become increasingly isolated, paranoid, and angry over time because so many people in Culture do not agree with the aims and purposes of Scientology. Scientologists, it seems, can only ever be friends with other Scientologists. Even then, Scientologists write KR's on each other. As Marty Rathbun and other SD's and ex-Scientologists have documented, CoS seeks to deny justice to Scientologists who have been the victims of other Scientologists. Financial fraud, domestic violence, and sexual assaults are alleged to have been covered up by CoS. This is CoS acting to suppress its own members and to deny justice.

3A. In socioeconomic terms, Scientologists are warned about being "PTS to the Middle Class." This means that Scientology calls upon its members to reject "Wog" middle class values such as home ownership, a college education, and retirement savings in favor giving all to CoS. I have not seen "PTS to the Middle Class" emerge in the SD movement to date.

4. Once Scientologists embrace the Master Race doctrine of Homo Novis, L. Ron Hubbard's PTS/SP doctrine is next invoked as the ultimate justification for CoS and SD's to engage in extraordinarily self-serving, and self-justifying interpretations of life and events. Paradoxically, the Homo Novis and PTS/SP doctrines allow Master Race members to also claim Ultimate Victim Status in the "Dangerous Environment Racket" identified by Gerry Armstrong. Scientologists will play the religious persecution card or the "we are the authorities" cards and others as needed. Scientology doctrine can be as glib as it is sinister.

Will the Scientology Diaspora reject the doctrines of Homo Novis and PTS/SP?

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Part Four: Culture Shock and Newly-Blown CoS Scientologists

1. One of my major concerns is that some in the SD Movement are taking a hard turn left into a radicalized, Mini-CoS mindset after their initial period of leaving CoS proved more challenging than expected. The initial period of leaving the Culture of CoS is called the "Honeymoon Phase" by sociologists. The Honeymoon Phase is generally followed by a period of difficulties and disillusionment. The temptation to blame "Haters" for one's disillusionment and Culture Shock is counterproductive, for it can force a newly-blown Scientologist back into a defensive Scientology posture.

1A. SD's need to understand that open, robust debate is a major part of Western Democracy and its demanding multicultural, pluralistic, secular orientation. If you push, you get pushed back out here. There is no OSA to protect you, buffer reality, or handle critics. The process of Re-Acculturation can be difficult. That is why support from former Scientologists is important. However, if such support comes with the demand that one observe and practice KSW, then what has a person really gained by leaving CoS?

2. IMO, newly-blown Scientologists experience Culture Shock when they leave CoS and re-enter Society at large. IMO, the major M/U in the SD Movement is incorrectly interpreting Culture Shock as Suppression. I have come to the conclusion that Culture Shock upon re-entering Society is a bigger problem for newly-blown Scientologists than Scientology indoctrination per se. One reason I am such a fan of Jeff Hawkins' Counterfeit Dreams is that Jeff describes the difficulties of re-entering society after leaving CoS with a great deal of insight and self-compassion. People who leave CoS need to regain their self-compassion and dignity, for these are two of the main things that CoS strips from its members. If one understands the phases of Culture Shock, then they are far less prone to interpret the sometimes painful transition back in Society in terms of the PTS/SP doctrine.

3. I urge newly-blown Scientologists to study the phenomenon of Culture Shock

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Culture shock refers to the anxiety and feelings (of surprise, disorientation, uncertainty, confusion, etc.) felt when people have to operate within a different and unknown cultural or social environment after leaving everything familiar behind and they have to find their way in a new culture that has a different way of life and a different mindset [1] such as in a foreign country. It grows out of the difficulties in assimilating the new culture, causing difficulty in knowing what is appropriate and what is not. This is often combined with a dislike for or even disgust (moral or aesthetical) with certain aspects of the new or different culture.

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1. "Scientology Diasporas" or just "Diasporas." I will be calling them "SD's" for short. Like the OG and Anonymous, the SD's now have a distinctive identity.


Mr. Swift, you know I am one of your biggest fans, and this is a powerful thread which I will be plagiarizing for my own purposes --- however...there's something I need to get off my chest. Please forgive this brief derail.

You've come up with something really clever here with this idea of SD's, but I am tired of all the "identifying" labels. I'm tired of all this us/them stuff. I am tired of the segmenting and imposing of broad stroke cultural definitions. OG, Anons, Scilons, Exes, Independents, and now SD's --- bah! No more!

Why do we need to draw up such hard fast battle lines? Can't we just be people with certain commonalities and certain differences? Sorry I'm being such a pain.

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You've come up with something really clever here with this idea of SD's, but I am tired of all the "identifying" labels. I'm tired of all this us/them stuff. I am tired of the segmenting and imposing of broad stroke cultural definitions. OG, Anons, Scilons, Exes, Independents, and now SD's --- bah! No more!

Yes, BF, labels can be tiring but writers, sociologists, psychologists, religiologists and sometimes regular folk just need to put things into categories. It helps to organize thoughts and ideas and aids in seeing where things are going.

As a person who was in scientology for many years who left, I can identify with Swifts's description of cultural shock. I think he's right, the movement of people away from scientology is very much a diaspora. I agree there is not much freedom in the "free"zone nor independence in the self-proclaimed "Independent Scientologist" group. They may be free of a dictator but they still have not freed themselves of a dictatorial ideology. These people made these labels for themselves. If they are inaccurate then they are misleading to that degree. These self-imposed labels indicate a continuation of the illusion. I do not think it is an "us and them" thing. That's what scientology does. We label ourselves as "critics" for a reason. They are the ones who turn that into "scientology haters". Though "scientology haters" may very well exist, it is very unfair and polarizing to be so disingenuous as to try and make those two very different things into the same thing. It is a point worth making.

A real commentary on your post, Swift, requires much thinking and my brain is taxed right now. Maybe later.


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Part Five: Warning: A Serious J. Swift Screed on the Inconsistencies and Hypocrisies in the Scientology Diasporaist Movement Follows!

This is a Screed of Three Parts.

Part One:
The Scientology Diasporaists cannot have it both ways: They cannot attack David Miscavige while defending and embracing LRH's inhumane policies. The Scientology Diasporaists need to do the formula and decide whose side they are on.

Are they Humans or Homo Novis?

If Human, then denounce Scientology in all of its forms in order to protect and safeguard Humanity.

Scientology's goal is the destruction of Human Civilization and the Establishment of a Scientology Civilization in its place. Is a Scientology Civilization factually what you want to support and empower? If so, then you are Homo Novis. If Homo Novis, then STFU about DM's behavior. From a Homo Novis perspective, DM is doing exactly what Ron did. The only difference is that the internet exists now. The internet did not exist when Ron was ripping the Humanity out of Scientologists like a dentist working on a rotten molar with a pair of with metal pliers.

DM uses the techniques LRH taught and described in the Tech. DM is using the Tech to its full potential. The Scientology Diasporaists cannot confront the full realization and application of Scientology Power by COB. The Diasporaists seem to want human qualities such as mercy and compassion. These qualities are not available in Scientology. They are rather low-toned from the Homo Novis point of view.

The Scientology Diaspora Movement is telling horror stories and blaming them all on COB. The fact is that COB is just doing what comes naturally to a Scientologist at his level. Any Scientologist operating Scientology at the Planetary Level would appear to be cruel and inhumane from a human point of view. Humans do not understand that "too gruesome" is the only correct form of compassion in Scientology.

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How can Scientology Diasporaists embrace the Master Race doctrine of Homo Novis while attacking DM for being inhumane? That is the point of Homo Novis: It is inhumane because it is was designed to be inhuman. The entire purpose of Scientology and RPF is to rip the humanity out of people. An obedient, unquestioning, Homo Novis is the EP of both RPF and Scientology: You get exactly what you donate for! That is why CoS must declare you an SP if you ask for a refund. Only a human would want a refund.

Marty Rathbun and other SD's flunked RPF and blew. They now rage against DM while embracing the inhumane Tech that created and perpetuates DM and the RPF. King Solomon spoke to this nonsense in a very blunt way:

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As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his foolishness.
(Proverbs 26:11)

Let me get this straight. Let me make sure I understand: Scientology fucked you over and ruined your life, and, you blew from CoS to do more Scientology? Okay. I understand the part about Scientology fucking you over and ruining your life. Doing more Scientology is the part I do not understand. Was RVY correct? Are you like the abused wife who comes back for more?

Look, it is this simple for Scientologists: You're either in or you're out of Scientology. If you are in, expect to have your humanity violently and painfully ripped from you. That is what Scientology is all about. LRH clearly tells Scientologists early in the game that their Humanity is aberrated and will be fully handled by Scientology. The only difference between CoS, FZ, and Indies is the gradient. Other than the gradient, it is all Scientology. The Scientology Diasporaists still want to Clear the Planet and build a new Scientology Civilization. They share the same core goals as CoS.

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Part 5A: The Screed Continued

LRH was a goddamned Satanist. Ron was not fucking around when he said. "The only way out is through." If you want to be a Scientologist, then take Ron at his word: You are Homo Novis, and, Scientology will eradicate the human emotion and reaction from you. Don't cry when your humanity is being ripped from you in Scientology's private prison or in a locked room at Flag.

The pain, crying, anguish, and psych breaks are just the feeling of Humanity leaving your body.

Deal with it so that Homo Novis can emerge.

If you cannot deal with having your Humanity ripped from you in some Scientology Hell Hole, then stop claiming to be a Scientologist. Stop being a candyass dilettante who wants auditing and consolation but does not want to submit to the Reality of what it takes to dehumanize you. Again, take Ron at his word: "We would rather have you dead than incapable."

LRH was most decidedly not fucking around when he sat about to create the Master Race of Homo Novis. Ron did not give a shit about any of the considerations, money, or even the pain that Scientologists had to endure as he systematically used his Tech to strip them of their Humanity.

Taken at his word, LRH is quite willing to see Debbie Cook and her petty homo sap dramatizations destroyed once and for all in his RPF. After all, Debbie signed on with LRH for a billion years. If at all possible, Ron would like to destroy the Humanity of all Sea Org members in their current lifetimes. By destroying it in this lifetime, SO members can reincarnate as Homo Novis and be of far more service to Ron for the remainder of the billion years. DM is just following Ron's orders. It was no different when the Old Man was around. LRH treated people like shit, paid them slave wages, gang banged sec checked them, and threw kids in chain lockers.

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Part 5B: The Screed Continued

Where is this fucking romantic Diasporaist notion of LRH coming from anyway? Ron let Mary Sue go to prison for his crimes. Ron created RPF, sec checks, hard sales, crush regging and everything else that is cruel and inhuman in Scientology. I sure as hell do not recognize the LRH that Freezoners and Indies speak of and glorify. They are talking about some false mental image picture of LRH they mocked up to justify their attacks on COB. LRH never allowed any attacks on CoS from within on his watch. What makes the Diasporaists think they are justified in violating KSW?

The LRH created by the Diasporaists is Santa Claus with a bag full of Theta. Go read the facts to find out about the historical LRH.

The actual L. Ron Hubbard was a bastard and a sadist. He engaged in recreational drug use and money laundering. He lied prolifically. Even when the truth flattered him, LRH preferred to lie. What LRH was crystal clear about was his complete willingness to harm people and lie to them and be okay about it. LRH defined his willingness to harm and lie as part of what he as a "Big Being" could and should do. Big Beings are above the law. The law is for small beings, for ant colonies and such. Ron slept at night with a full belly while starving people shivered at night in his RPF. DM enjoys all of his creature comforts while people in his RPF suffer.

LRH and DM are no different. Therefore, the Diasporaists are not LRH Loyalists; they simply have counter-intention on COB and are calling it something else.

DM shares thetanic DNA with LRH. DM is doing exactly what he is doing because Scientology allows no case on post. The stats must always rise. The gradient is vertical. Fuck reasonableness. Write up your crimes. What are your false purposes? You personally are the reason that Scientology is not expanding. You must pay for your crimes. Hard MEST work and extensive sec checks will rehabilitate you.

When will FZ'ers and Indies grant DM his beingness so that he can continue LRH's ethics policies and Homo Novis agenda?

CoS looks exactly like what CoS should look like. CoS is what KSW gets you. KSW gets you a Dictator because Ron hated democracies. If you want to vote or a voice, then you are some dramatizing, hypnotized homo sap. You are not a Scientologist if you are nattering online about how unfair RPF was. You are unflat on RPF and upset. A-E will handle the unflatness.

Homo Novis are supposed to be immune to pain, they are supposed to be at cause over MEST and meat body considerations. The correct action in a too gruesome RPF is to exteriorize and allow the GE to run out and boil off the implant called Humanity. Any thetan can do that because they have the power and self-determinism to do so. LRH said so:

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Part Six: The "SD" Label

BF, I argue that the "Scientology Diasporaists" label should be used because it is a true and accurate description. There are Scientologists living in a Diaspora. This distinct group embraces LRH's inhumane policies while simultaneously criticizing DM. I see this as the fundamental SD contradiction. The "Why" underlying DM's sadism is LRH's policies. If one wanted true reform of CoS, LRH's policies would have to be changed. Without changing policies in CoS there will simply be a Revolving Door of Dictators.

Aaron Saxton's YT videos are singular and powerful because Aaron recovered his Lost Humanity. What is needed by Scientologists is the Recovery of their Lost Humanity. This cannot happen in a Scientology context because Humanity is defective and unwanted in Scientology.

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SD's appear to be looking for some unworkable middle ground in which Homo Novis and Humanity meet and compromise. IMO, what Marty and the rest of the SD's actually want is Dianetics. IMO, Pre-Scientology is the only place where they will ever find the Original Hubbard.

Alan Walter told people that LRH went dark in 1964 with KSW. This is something SD's should consider: What is Scientology w/o KSW? It is basically Dianetics if you think about it. Dianetics had the OT levels w/o calling them that. LRH described entities and the handling of them as early as 1951.

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I see no Scientology Diasporaists calling for any meaningful doctrinal changes to anything about Scientology. The SD's are making a request for only one personnel change. To believe that David Miscavige alone is responsible for everything gives DM far too much credit. The System of CoS is what is wrong. Even if DM left tomorrow for Chilean Exile, those parts of CoS that can be so easily manipulated to cause harm and suffering would continue on in DM's absence:
    KSW
    Sea Org Slave Wages
    Forced abortions in SO
    Staff Slave Wages
    The Billion Year Contract
    GO/OSA
    The private Scientology prison system known as the RPF
    The sadism of CoS
    KR's used as weapons
    Gang Bang Sec Checks
    Comm Ev's
    Disconnection
    The use of confessional material to coerce or blackmail Scientologists
    Hard sales and crush regging
    Stats
    Arbitraries
    Contradictions
    Lying for the highest Good
    Stats
    Crush Regging of publics
    Writing KR's on others
    Malicious Comm Ev's
    Separating married SO couples
    Ordering SO divorces
    Elder Abuse
    Forced IAS, Super Power, and other status "donations"
    Offloading SO after decades with $500
    Not offering adequate medical or dental care to SO

If DM leaves what changes? This is where I do not understand the SD's. If DM leaves, then how does CoS improve? I ask an SD to please describe how DM leaving changes anything. For example, do LRH's Org finance policies change? Do SO and Staff get paid a living wage? Do Orgs get adequate toilet paper when DM leaves?

While the SD's oppose DM, what do they affirm?


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Debbie Cook, Marty Rathbun, and others flunked RPF and blew. They now rage against DM while embracing the inhuman Tech that created and perpetuates DM.

Actually, Debra Cook has not uttered a word about these alleged abusive experiences. Debra Cook is not included in the Diaspora of scientology. Debra Cook is a bona fide CoS member, believe it or not. The accounts of both her abuses and of being abused have all come from 3rd parties. And this will add to your inconsistencies: there are many oddities and unanswered questions surrounding Debra Cook and Wayne Baumgarten.

They both blew the SO. Were they declared? Did they do their A to E? How is it that they seem to be so successful and well-connected relatively shortly after having left, while so many others who leave the Sea Org are considered degraded beings, shunned and kept off all lines of communication with other scientologists? Debbie has a high school diploma. Did she make enough money while in the Sea Org to come out and immediately buy or start a successful company that she is now the CEO of? How is it that she blows the Sea Org right out from under Dave Miscavige, then suddenly she's a scientology field upstat rubbing elbows with scientology celebrities? How many other blown Sea Org members have had such support from CoS so quickly bestowed upon them by after blowing from Int? Does it make sense that she suffered these abuses under Dave, then seems to have nothing to say about all of that? When her husband blew, he did so under the risk that he would never see his beloved wife ever again. The future of staying in the Sea Org was much worse, apparently, than a future without his wife. And now he has nothing to say about the experiences that would drive him to do such a thing?

This all smells very fishy to me. It smells like a payoff and an agreement to keep silent about their experiences. This is about more than just being a believer. Rathbun is a believer. What is the main difference between Rathbun and Ms. Cook? He communicates about his experiences, and she doesn't. She is in "good standing" and he is not. No, the high profile face of Flag, known to all as the happy smiley lady-face Captain of the Mecca, on every piece of Flag promo for years, would be well worth the investment to silence. That would explain their quick acquisition of start-up capital for their company and their sudden carte blanche in the Truman Show of the scientology field.

When Debbie disseminates and FSMs in the field now, does she tell her "friends" that a percentage of their donations go towards Dave's paying off former Sea Org members to keep silent about his abusiveness? True, I am alleging this theory about the Baumgartens. I have no proof, only a keen eye for inconsistencies. Maybe Dave decided not to declare them out of the kindness of his heart. Maybe they did months and months of amends, passed their A to E's, got an inheritance or family gift money to pay off their exorbitant freeloader bills and pay for loads of security checks, and had money left over buy their new home and start their new companies. Maybe. Yeah. Right.

Gee it would be great if someone in the know could confirm or disprove my theory. Sorry for the slight thread derailment, Swift. But I felt a correction about Debbie was necessary. All the data on Debra Cook Baumgarten and her husband Whayne is a matter of public record. Her Facebook page alone contains quite a bit of information.


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The problem with abstract and impersonal generalizations is that they don't account for individual's ebbing and flowing personal ways of being.

I love your work ITT, Swift. It's brilliant as usual.

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Dorothy, that is just stunning news on Captain Debbie Cook. I stand corrected. I got the impression from the blog of a former IG/RTC that D. Cook had related details to him. Perhaps said former IG/RTC is third partying Captain Cook?

There are so many former, or apparently former, CoS players with other fish to fry. I reported some time ago that Mary DeMoss Panton had left CoS only to be corrected: No Mary is still in. She is just not on post in CCHR. Now, Debbie Cook and her husband Mr. Debbie Cook seem to be in fine fettle.

Perhaps I am right: Perhaps DM has sent his people into the Scientology Diaspora to reconnect with doctrinaire Scientologists before the TPark's and the Marty's of the world get to them? I say this because the SD is linked by blood and business to Scientologists who are still in. It could be that the SD is where the future of CoS is decided. The SD is the swing vote, so to speak.

If I were DM, I could see deploying D. Cook into SD circles to recover all of my ethics particles by use of love-bombing. If D. Cook had the informal power to lift SP Declares, this would bypass the IJC and allow SD's with cash to route back onto Basics at Flag. DM has made doing the Basics a precondition of routing back onto lines. In this scenario, D. Cook's stature as the former Captain of Flag who is still in good standing makes her far more powerful than Marty in the eyes of many in the Scientology Diaspora. I would not be surprised if D. Cook is a part of DM's strategic effort to save CoS from collapse. The big question then becomes one of an SD Recovery effort. Marty Rathbun is extremely viable against DM and his SD Recovery effort. DM knows it. Suddenly, one can understand why Marty is posting about Debbie's alleged humiliation at Int Base. He needs to put that incident onto SD radars to counter Debbie's FSM efforts.

If I were DM, I might well deploy D. Cook to out create former RTC execs. Short term, DM needs an "Ultimate Upstat" out in the field -- even if it means holding his nose and putting Harvey Jacques in Debbie's old post. I mean, it's not like DM has a deep bench these days. Further, DM has to find those 1,000 people to staff Super Power. Which is why someone like a Debra Cook might be the Uber-FSM who could flow ethics particles, publics, and new SO recruits into Super Power and the newly remodeled Fort Homicide. Scientology is, after all, bodies in the shop.

Marty could be resorting to his hardline doctrinal stance because Dave is outplaying him once again. Although he is a raging psychotic, Dave's money buys a lot of Free Theta, PR, and forgiveness. Money makes many people Tone 40. Money is the lubrication of Homo Novis. For enough money, Hubbard himself would come back from Target Two just to roll naked in all of that phat wog cash!

In religion, people are swayed by either doctrinal purity or money. Marty is the aggrieved "Preacher of Righteousness" appealing to the thetan's sense of justice and high-minded ideals. Conversely, DM's Flag has fat, overstuffed chairs, Class VIII auditors, scuba diving excursions, case cracking, and a theta environment. How can Marty counter the creature comforts and narcissistic pleasures of Flag except by preaching an Underdog Gospel in which the question is this: Who loves Mr. Hubbard more? Marty or Dave? In this drama, Dave is the rich Pharisee and Marty is the Scientology Jesus.

What theatrics! Here is the "Dave and Marty Show" at present:

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For the next twelve hours Debbie was made to stand in a large garbage can and face one hundred people screaming at her demanding a confession as to her “homosexual tendancies”. While this was going on water was poured over her head. Signs were put around Debbie’s neck, one marked in magic marker “LESBO” while this torture proceeded.

ref: http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/

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There are certain things which make people ill and that is when they get into certain zones and areas or positions which approximate the R6 position such as a body lying in the rain with a rat below the crotch. Guaranteed to give people colds and so forth. So they had colds from rain, yet, they take baths and get wet and don't get colds. When they get cold, it restimulates frozen alcohol and glycol, as a mix. And therefore they get into a dramatization, so that sickness is very closely tied in with R6. "

Ref: R3: ARC break process. HCOB 22 September 65


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Captain Cook- love it! Is that pronounced with "C" or "K"? :lol:

DeMoss still in? Shoot. I had high hopes for that girl.


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