Even 9 News, which typically tends to pander to the cult, can't do them any favours in this
report on last nights 4Corners documentary....
Anonymous gets a good mention and Senator Xenophon is on too.
The cult has a new spokeshole downunder. Some old trout called Julia Hargrave who denies everything or does the usual "I have no data on that" style of robotic cult shite.
What happened to Cyrus Brooks or Vicki Dunstan? Damaged goods I expect.
When is cult ever going to put someone up know actually knows something? To the casual viewer it sounds like incompetance. To the rest, it's lies.
9News. A Currrent Affair
.Scientology under Siege.
Transcript of the interview with Scientology spokesperson.Scientology under siege on MSN Video
Interviewer: Tracy Grimshaw. 9 News, A Current Affair.
Interviewee: Julia Hargrave, Church of Scientology.
(note: JH starts fidgeting with her fingers when she begins answering those questions which she knows she has to lie about ...which is most of them, and she blinks far too much).
Late today I spoke with Julia Hargrave, a councilor and senior member of the church of scientology who was an assistant to church founder L.Ron Hubbard. She was also a member of the elite unit known as Sea Org within the church.
Julia thank you for your time. Your church stands accused of alarming, damning allegations of bullying, abuse, human trafficking among others. What is your response to those allegations.JH: Well, I have been a member of the Church of scientology for over 40 years. I have personally worked with L.Ron Hubbard and many of the current management...people and those are absolutely not my experience[sic].
One of the accusations last night was a woman who was paid so little that she could not afford birth control pills and consequently got pregnant and was compelled to have an abortion.JH: I don't know that woman and I no instance of that type of thing occurring. I can only speak of the organization I work in here in Australia that the staff members are very well cared for. They have all their medical and dental expenses, anything that they need and I know of no occasion where that has been a problem.
Let me get this straight. Are you qualified only to speak from your personal experience because we did ask for a spokesperson who could speak about the church as a whole and we understood that you would be that spokesperson.JH: Ok, er I just don't know of that instance that you are discussing now with regard to birth control pills.
What is it about the Sea Org that would be repellant to children?JH: It isn't that it's repellant, it's just they need to attend schools, erm.. we don't all the facilities for large numbers of children and so it's just more practical. But er.. it's an individual choice, if they wish to have children then they can do so.
And yet a 14 year old, Jordan Anderson, was recruited at that age to Sea Org and as part of her recruitment process was asked whether she'd ever watched porn.... a 14 year old... whether she had ever had sex with animals.JH: That.. is something I.. find very hard t-to believe....absolutely it...I know of no precedence on that. I don't not believe that is the truth, quite frankly. It is.. it's not part of our..erm... recruitment procedure. At all.
The scientology spokesman last night also admitted that members are not allowed to stay in touch with other members of the church after they have left the church. Do you not concede that that tears families apart.JH: That's actually not a true ..er..statement and I don't believe it is what Mr.Davis said exactly. Many people... many people decide to leave the church and they're very free to do so and stay in communication with other family members who are in the church. Er.. It's only if the person begins to attack the church. That's a different matter entirely.
Given that some of the other allegations, that your church is facing, is of brainwashing is it not open to us that young Fiona Peachy was brainwashed by the church?JH: That would be completely a false statement. Fiona is a very determined young lady, and she...erm... does what she wishes to do. She's a very free individual, and she does what she chooses.
We heard last night that when young Jordan Anderson finally wanted to leave the church and go to her mother who was parked outside, she was kept inside the church building for four day and was interrogated before she was finally allowed to leave.JH: Mmm, I know that's absolutely to be non-factual. Erm.. she was not outside the church for 4 days. She was in communication with ..erm.. her ex-husband and it was known very well, when Jordan had finished her routing out procedure... it was not interrogation but it was erm.. church policy to complete cycles of action before she left and then she did so freely.
Why would these families lie? Why would these people lie? What is their incentive? JH: Well, I can only give my opinion on that and I would say that some of those people who made those allegations are themselves suing the church and I could imagine that they my think the TV exposure will aid their case and help them to win. They're a very small minority probably less than two and a half percent of the whole church population so it is a really very small minority group and er.. I think they <shrugs> are possibly doing it for their own vested interests. That's my opinion.