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Continuing from the earlier post of media links on Round #1 of the senate vote. If you need to catch up on this week, go here......
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?p=375045#375045

2UE's Steve Liebmann interviews Nick Xenophon Friday 12th march, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tECJ6g_QfjM
Source: http://www.2ue.com.au/blogs/2ue-blog/xe ... -q28a.html

Senate inquiries: sport yes, abuse no
Crikey 12th March 2010
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/03/12/sen ... -abuse-no/


Round #2. Ding-Ding!

Xenophon pushes for Scientology inquiry
AAP / The Age 12th March 2010
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news ... -q3wh.html

Scientology insider's nightmare childhood
A former Scientologist who says she was a "child slave" and alleges she saw a six-year old boy
chained up in a ship's hold is disappointed the Senate has blocked a full inquiry into the religious organisation.

ABC News 12th March 2010
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 844150.htm

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13th March 2010 ........

Xenophon attends Brisbane CIFS conference on cults. Some related articles....
(related thread: http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?p=375080#375080 )

AAP Newsfeeed, various outlets....
Xenophon vows to keep heat on Scientology 'cult'
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nationa ... -q4sg.html
Scientology a 'cult', Xenophon tells forum
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/quee ... public_rss
Scientology a cult: Xenophon
http://www.theage.com.au/national/scien ... -q4ro.html

more...
Xenophon vows to pursue 'cults'
The Age
http://www.theage.com.au/national/xenop ... -q4xz.html

Xenophon ramps up anti-Scientology crusade
ABC / Yahoo7
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/australian ... y-crusade/

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and commentary from Paul Adams at the Global Atheist Convention in Melbourne....

Govt urged to back Scientology inquiry
Sydney Morning Herald
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... -q4rq.html
also...
http://www.smh.com.au/national/pollies- ... -q547.html

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Sydney radio station 2SER-FM 107.3 sought comment from anon regarding the push for a Senate inquiry into Scientology.....

Anonymous praises Xenophon’s stance against Scientology
http://2ser.podomatic.com/entry/eg/2010 ... 4_25-08_00
MP3 download:
http://2ser.podomatic.com/enclosure/2010-03-13T03_34_25-08_00.mp3

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14th March....

Sky News...
Xenophon pushes for Scientology inquiry
http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/ar ... ?id=439736

Brisbane Times...
Pressure grows over Scientology abuse allegations
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nationa ... -q51t.html

Marc Headley interviewed on Ch.7 Sunrise, Australia.
http://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunrise/video/-/18610219/

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Just in from the AAP newsfeed, 17th March 2010...

Former Scientologists keen to spill beans on church to Rudd, Abbott
TWO former members of the Church of Scientology are keen to tell Kevin Rudd and
Tony Abbott of their concerns about the church, Independent senator Nick Xenophon says.

Herald Sun 17th March 2010
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/nation ... 5841737373
also here...
http://www.news.com.au/national/former- ... 5841737373
Daily Telegraph....
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/n ... 5841737373

and the same AAP report, different headline, here in The Age....
Ex-Scientology members to meet MPs
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news ... -qdjz.html
Brisbane Times....
http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaki ... -qdjz.html
Sydney Morning Herald....
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... -qdjz.html
WAtoday....
http://www.watoday.com.au/breaking-news ... -qdjz.html
The West Australian....
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/na ... -meet-mps/
Sky News....
http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/ar ... ?id=440997
Big Pond News....
http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Nationa ... 41021.html

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From the Senate website:

http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/pubs/daily/2010/140310.pdf

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page 3 - Senate Daily Summary–This week at a glance

18 March 2010
 Matters relating to the Church of Scientology–Community Affairs References
Committee–to report by 18 March 2010


http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/work/journals/jnlp_117.pdf (pg.10)

Quote:
Senator Xenophon: To move on 18 March 2010—

(1) That the following matters be referred to the Economics References Committee
for inquiry and report by 24 June 2010:
(a) allegations of abuse, recently widely reported in the Australian media,
against employees, volunteers and followers (including ex-employees,
ex-volunteers and ex-followers) of the Church of Scientology and any
associated entities, including:
(i) coerced abortions,
(ii) unsafe occupational health and safety practices,
(iii) unconscionable, misleading and deceptive conduct in the context
of goods and services provided and charged for by the Church of
Scientology and any associated entities, and
(iv) the harassment of followers and ex-followers of the Church of
Scientology and any associated entities;
(b) the adequacy of the Model Criminal Code and its application in respect
of the offence of psychological harm;
(c) the adequacy of current consumer protection laws in respect of goods
and services provided by the Church of Scientology and any associated
entities, and its fundraising practices generally;
(d) the adequacy of current occupational health and safety laws and
workplace relations laws in respect of the allegations of conduct
occurring within the Church of Scientology and any associated entities;
and
(e) any related matters.

(2) That in undertaking this inquiry, the committee will not inquire into the validity or otherwise of the belief systems of the Church of Scientology and any
associated entities.

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following on from yesterday....

AAP Newsfeed....

Ex-Scientologist coerced abortion claims
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/n ... 5841973460
    * Woman says she was "forced to abort child"
    * Claims she was forced to work till 2am
    * Allegedly threatened by church members

A CANBERRA woman has given a tearful account of how the Church of Scientology allegedly
coerced her to have two abortions, as a fresh attempt was being made for a Senate inquiry into the organisation


More national newslinks for the same AAP story ...

Former Scientologist tells of abortions
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... -qdjz.html
http://www.news-mail.com.au/story/2010/ ... abortions/

http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaki ... -qdjz.html
http://www.watoday.com.au/breaking-news ... -qdjz.html
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news ... -qdjz.html
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1216 ... -abortions
Scientologists forced me to have two abortions, ex-disciple says
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/nati ... 5841994979
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/sc ... 5841933897
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/br ... 5841994979
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/brea ... 5841933897

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Nick Xenophon is demanding an inquiry into the Church of Scientology
as one ex-member opens up about her experience.


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9 NEWS .....
Former Scientologist tells of abortions
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/102 ... o-meet-mps
(INCLUDES VIDEO)
EDIT: added Youtube version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyOZKD0PZCM
(this is the full interview. 3min 30sec. Video freezes part way in but audio is OK)

ABC NEWS.....
Ex-Scientologist 'pressured' to have abortions
A woman who claims she was pressured by Scientologists to have two abortions
has urged the Prime Minister to support an inquiry into the church.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 848720.htm


Thank you :bowdown: Janette.
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Other World reports....

Belgium...
"Scientology dwong mij tot twee abortussen"
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/959/Bizar/arti ... ssen.dhtml

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March 18th 2010

AAP....
Scientologists reject claims they forced abortions
http://www.smh.com.au/national/scientol ... -qfyc.html


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Comment from Will Fry, ex-scientologist, ex-Sea Org member, on what happens in the Sea Org after a girl has been coerced into having the abortion:

willhaven720, posting in WWP, wrote:
One thing I'd like to point out, which I haven't seen anyone talk about since I've been following everything on WWP...

When girls in the Sea Org actually get an abortion, some are punished for wasting production time. Specifically, "lower conditions" are done. Where the person is assigned the condition of "Treason, Enemy, Doubt, Confusion or Liability".

Again... that's if they actually DO have an abortion. So they have to stay up late at night, work passed quitting time and through their meal breaks in order to work extra for "making up the damage done".

Then they have to write up a "conditions formula", wherein they have to tell everyone in the org what they did wrong (got pregnant = Dev T) and explain exactly what they did to make up the damage (i.e. number of hours worked outside of production time) and then ask them if they can become part of the group again. They have to get everyone in the org to sign yes or no, and need the majority to get out of trouble.

Yes. I have actually seen this.

Comment source: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/318-sena ... ost1198633

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The Senate - Order of Business
Thursday 18th March 2010
from 9:30AM
http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/work/red/red.pdf

Senator backing inquiry into Scientology
The Age 18th March 2010
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news ... -qgge.html

Xenophon is speaking in the Senate as I type this.
Some notes on the fly......
Janette Lang's statement to the press yesterday about the coerced abortion etc is going on the Senate record.
Although support and concern is greater than before, once again the motion for an inquiry will not be supported by the government.
The opposition won't support it either but, after speaking to the visiting ex-scientologists yesterday, has promised to report to the Fair Work Ombudsman to look into the cult regarding wage/work violations.
Greens Senator Chistine Milne rounded on the government for not supporting the inquiry.
Result: 6 to 33. Motion not carried.

Scientology inquiry fails again
ABC News 18th March 2010
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 849501.htm
AAP....
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... -qgge.html

Onto Round 3, next time parliament resumes in May.
Xenophon has vowed to bring the motion up each time
On this occasion he got more private support and progress is being made. Who said this was ever going to be easy?

EDIT:
Once again, thanks to mnql1 on WWP for YouTubing latest Senate proceedings

Video from the March 28, 2010 session of the Senate of Australia:

YouTube- Scientology Inquiry Debate in Australia, March 18, 2010 (1/10)
YouTube- Scientology Inquiry Debate in Australia, March 18, 2010 (2/10)
YouTube- Scientology Inquiry Debate in Australia, March 18, 2010 (3/10)
YouTube- Scientology Inquiry Debate in Australia, March 18, 2010 (4/10)
YouTube- Scientology Inquiry Debate in Australia, March 18, 2010 (5/10)
YouTube- Scientology Inquiry Debate in Australia, March 18, 2010 (6/10)
YouTube- Scientology Inquiry Debate in Australia, March 18, 2010 (7/10)
YouTube- Scientology Inquiry Debate in Australia, March 18, 2010 (8/10)
YouTube- Scientology Inquiry Debate in Australia, March 18, 2010 (9/10)
YouTube- Scientology Inquiry Debate in Australia, March 18, 2010 (10/10)
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Transcript:
http://www.aph.gov.au/Hansard/senate/da ... 180310.pdf
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/318-sena ... ost1199961
Full video in one, on Vimeo....
http://www.vimeo.com/10263119

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Radio: Senator Nick Xenephon, whose motion was defeated in the Senate, speaks to 3AW Drive.
3AW 963 NewsTalk 18th March 2010
http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-generic ... -qhxa.html
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Senator Nick Xenephon, whose motion was defeated in the Senate, speaks to 3AW Drive.

REPORT: The Government and the Opposition have again blocked Independent Senator Nick Xenephon's moves for a Senate Inquiry into the Church of Scientology.

There have been various media reports that you are no doubt aware of over the past weeks detailing alleged cases of abuse by the church against its followers.

Forced abortions and brain washing have been two of the more serious allegations.


Is Xenophon unfairly targeting Scientology? Or are his calls for an inquiry warranted?

Audio in link. Blog comments open. If you haven't already, please watch the previously posted 10 part youtube video of yesterdays Senate.

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AAP newsfeed......
PM to take advice on Scientology inquiry
SMH 19th March 2010
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... -qixb.html

Quote:
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says he shares "real concerns" about the Church of Scientology but isn't convinced the parliament is the best place to hear criminal allegations about the organisation.

The Senate has twice rejected calls for an upper house inquiry into the organisation, which has been the subject of claims of coerced abortions and workplace breaches.

Mr Rudd told the Seven Network on Friday he would take further advice on whether criminal and other allegations could be dealt with separately.

"I've just got to be very careful about how you... shine a light on a problem, deal with it, but at the same time don't interfere with criminal justice matters," he said.

"That's not where politicians should go."


AP world Newsfeed...
Via New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/19/world ... ralia.html
Quote:
Lawmakers Reject Inquiry on Scientology
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: March 19, 2010

The Senate on Thursday rejected a call for an inquiry into accusations against the Church of Scientology made by former members who said they had been abused and harassed and, in some instances, coerced into having abortions. A motion to authorize an investigation into the church received only 6 votes in the 76-seat chamber. (AP)


ABC News...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 850384.htm?

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Not all grievances are created equal in politics
Brisbane Times. Mark Davis - National Editor. 19th March 2010
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion ... -qiws.html

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When allegations emerged that shonky insulation installers operating under the Federal Government's home insulation program had exposed householders to the risk of fires and workers to injury or death, the Liberal and National Parties promptly referred the matter to a Senate inquiry.

And when trade unions claimed that Australia Post was cutting its workers compensation costs by using company doctors to force injured employees back to work prematurely, the Labor Party was more than willing to ask a Senate committee to inquire.

But yesterday, despite credible accounts tabled in Parliament of harassment, assault and fraud by the Church of Scientology, Labor, Liberal and National Senators all joined forces to defeat a move by the South Australian independent Senator Nick Xenophon for an inquiry.

You might have thought the role of Senate committees should include investigating serious grievances and claims of mistreatment by citizens who have nowhere else to go because of gaps in the legal system.

But not all grievances, it seems, are created equal.



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A big thanks for all your efforts, Spongey. You make it easier to track specifics of what media are reporting here.

Ever since XenUphon stood up in Parliament the first time, I've always held the belief that politicians would slowly but surely head down a previous direction with relation to the cult of scientology in AU.

After reading the transcript from Parliament yesterday, it is becoming clearer, the longer this goes on, the more pollies are starting to listen.

I think it is now only a matter of "terms of reference" being the obstacle to overcome. The actual inquiry almost seems a given now, IMHO.

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SENATOR v SCIENTOLOGY - CH 7 - The Morning Show 19th March 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXN6VA6u2EI
Interviewed together....
Senator Nick Xenophon, Ch.7 Reporter Brain Seymour, Rev Dr. David Millikan. Also replayed comments by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on the Sunrise breakfast program.
Cult of scientology representatives galantly chickened out or appearing but left a statement.

Senator Xenophon on 2gb Radio, 18th March 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS1kSOSr0nc

Cults should be given nowhere to hide
Despite criminal investigations, these groups continue unfettered.
The Age 21st March 2010
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/societ ... -qn87.html

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Senate will back Scientology inquiry this time: Xenophon
AAP / Various news outlets. 21st March 2010
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nationa ... -qnpf.html
Xenophon certain about Scientology probe
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/na ... ogy-probe/

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Independent senator Nick Xenophon is confident there will be a parliamentary inquiry into the Church of Scientology.

The Senate has twice rejected his calls to launch an inquiry into the organisation, which has been the subject of claims of abuse, including coerced abortions and workplace law breaches.

But Senator Xenophon isn't giving up, and says he's heartened by the change of language on the issue, noting Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's comments on Friday that he too has concerns about the church.

"It's inevitable that there will be some sort of inquiry into the Church of Scientology," he told Network Ten.

"Anything that's of a criminal nature ought to go to the police ... but there are a whole range of other issues that can be looked at by a senate inquiry."

These include law reform, health and safety practices, industrial practices, consumer law and reform of the criminal code, he said.

"These victims of Scientology deserve an inquiry, deserve a platform for their concerns to be heard."

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ASK THE P.M. - SUNRISE CH7 AUSTRALIA 19th March 2010
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvbfzZJLe2U

MEET THE PRESS CH10 AUSTRALIA 21st March 2010
Senator Xenophon interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZXvrB2xIcA

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Some vaguely related political news popped up today in the Herald Sun. It's basically an opinion article critical of Prime Minster Kevin Rudd for not fufilling his promises (and scientology gets a mention amongst a list of hot topics)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/rud ... 5858531109

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It's easy to go on Sunrise and say you are concerned about things and that you want to fix them.

Rudd says: "I'm concerned about child care, I'm concerned about pokies, I'm concerned about the banks, I'm concerned about Scientology."

Well, being concerned is not the same as being part of any solution.


Right on! The last one is easy to fix. Just tell your dumb assed MPs to vote for Senator Xenophon's request for an inquiry into scientology.

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