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Post by lermanet_com » Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:04 am

I was sitting in a chair, on Ida Camburn's patio, I had a bad day, got a kink in my back and standing was painful... so I am sitting there in pain... and I recalled my own words describing that all one had to do to hypnotize someone deeply was to have them repeatedly IMAGINE something...

And the depth of the trance state is proportional to the lack of sensation in the body!!

So I thought I'd practice what I preach to you guys

So I did the following a half dozen times...

I imagined an orange basketball, rolling onto the porch, curving, then bouncing off the door, then continuing off to the left

Then I "imagined" "envisioned" or "mocked up" the same thing a few more times.

Damn!

I no longer felt the pain!

Wheee I can go Clear for FREE all I have to do is imagine a basketball repetatively!
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Post by lermanet_com » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:39 pm

Reply to a thread on WWP about Magoo saying they after Tiger Woods

yes, and remember... Scientologists are ambulance chasers.. they seek to target folks who are in a trauma...(and for OSA's B1 targets, they will often CREATE the trauma) the FACT of trauma increases a persons suggestibility...just like the fact of emotionally laden psychological attacks appear to stay in ones memory longer, in both the memory of the target AND the spectators...which is because the FACT of trauma increases a persons suggestibility...This is what 'works' in Scientology.

(and the early psychiatrists learned that it did not matter whether it was a real incident (like the pinch in the pinch test or an engram) or the recall of a real incident (the pinch test) or- and this is amazing.. an IMAGINED incident - (this is called abreaction) (past track, OT levels etc for it to act as the hypnoid inducing TRAUMA)

So Tiger Woods is having a bad PR month... he must be feeling some STRESS and TRAUMA... a bit like a family in Haiti...or "the shattering series of snaps" in Incident 1?

Because of the Stress he is in what is called a hypnoid state, where he is more suggestible.. thus Hubbard's dreck will be more likely to WORK for him.. to CLEAR him of his troubles and cares...

To the tune of Oklahoma:

DDDDDiiiiiaaaanetics....
where the wind goes roaring through your BRAIN
boy that piece of MEAT
will sure feel NEAT
when it's rid, of every ache and PAAAAAAIN!

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OOOOOO ENGRAMS!!!! EEEEEECK!

Post by lermanet_com » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:06 pm

OOOOOO ENGRAMS!!!! BTs!!! EEEEEECK!


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and Hubbard told us we had Engrams and BTs....

The image above is from the best known stage hypnotist in the US, who played Carnegie Hall 7 times, and in 1943, in a Life Magazine article claimed that his technqiues used in reverse, could wake up the German people from the trance that the worlds best hypnotist, Hitler, put them in!

Here is a rather large PDF, (I like big clear type) of Ralph Slater's powerful little book, that I scanned for you guys, published in May 1950 titled HYPNOSIS and Self Hypnosis, enjoy..

Ralph Slater quotes:
"The truth about the mysterious, near miraculous science of hypnosis"
"The amazing cures that properly applied hypnotic techniques can effect to many obstinate and long standing illnesses!"
"It may make a difference to your whole life"



LINK to PDF ( suggest right click & save ass) of HYPNOSIS and Self Hypnosis by Ralph Slater
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Post by lermanet_com » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:07 pm

"From 80 to 90% of the population can be hypnotized to varying degrees...At least 5% (10,000,000) of the U.S. population is extraordinarily hypnotizable, so easily hypnotizable that they are in a constant state of exaggerated suggestibility, even when awake and going about their normal daily routine. They are at the total mercy of all forms of influences and can easily be persuaded to do things and afterward have no idea why they did them..."
Dr. Tobias H. Brocher, Director, Center for Applied Behavioral Sciences, Menninger Foundation, Topeka, KS.LINK
"In the last ten years physicists have been extraordinarily noisy about the immense powers, that largely through their efforts, but through other efforts as well have come into the possession of man, powers notably and strikingly for very large scale and dreadful destruction. We have spoken of our responsibilities and our obligations to society in terms that sound very provincial, because the psychologist can hardly do anything without realizing that for him the acquisition of knowledge opens up the most terrifying prospects of controlling what people do and how they feel. This is true for all of you who are engaged in practice, and as the corpus of psychology gains in certitude and subtlety and skill. I can see that the physicists pleas that what he discovers be used with humanity and be used wisely will seem trivial compared to those pleas which you will have to make and for which you will be responsible."
page 214 in The Journal of Atomic Scientists.. physicist Robert Oppenheimer..implying that the nuclear bomb is "trivial" compared to threat of the techniques of covert hypnotic mind control while a guest speaker to the American Psychological Association in 1955 -
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Post by Don Carlo » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:50 pm

Worse, yet, teenagers can be taught the basic hypnotic/auditing technique in a few hours, and be so impressed how they can boss-around-the-parishioner, that they'll work slave wages to hypnotize other people.

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Post by Sea Horse » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:50 pm

Don Carlo wrote:Worse, yet, teenagers can be taught the basic hypnotic/auditing technique in a few hours, and be so impressed how they can boss-around-the-parishioner, that they'll work slave wages to hypnotize other people.
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Post by caroline » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:19 pm

Hi Arnie and Maureen,
Maureen posted a great Hubbard quote today on a.r.s. re: hypnosis. (Was it republished in a book of quotes?) It's from a Philadelphia Doctorate Course lecture in which Hubbard defines reality, illusion, delusion, etc. The whole thing is really quite mad, but I thought his admission about hypnosis was useful, as it clarifies "Scientology Zero," Hubbard's Chaos Tech for luring people in with "Solutions to the Dangerous Environment." I've expanded your excerpt a little, Maureen. Thanks for bringing it up... :)
L. Ron Hubbard wrote:So, if we just lay off any confusion about "Is this illusion?" or "What do we mean by illusion?" we merely mean by illusion the technical definition, that which one makes which can be experienced.

And what do we mean by reality? We mean that which is made and which is commonly experienced by agreement. That which is made or one or many make and can be commonly experienced. That we will define as reality just for our purposes.

And what’s delusion? That which somebody else makes and tries to push off on us as an arbitrary necessary experience. Arbitrary, necessary experience.

So… uh… what we’re trying to do with processing and with this slight dissertation on illusion here, what we’re trying to do with processing is to give the preclear back a choice.

We’re giving him back his power of choice on whether or not he has to experience THIS. And we’re giving him back that by one route only, and that’s rehabilitating his power to create and experience a universe.

If we can get him to create and experience a universe independently, the odd part of it is… is he has greater choice on his ability to experience this: it isn’t as bright as people tell him it has to be, it’s as bright as he wants to make it.

An awful lot of people have an awful lot of trouble with this stuff, you know. People go around, they say, "The light’s too bright, the dust is blowing too hard… uh… I’m too warm, it’s too cold, I’m uncomfortable, I’m too fat, I’m too thin, I’m this, I’m that, this, I…" They’re complaining all the time about an arbitrary necessity to experience.

They’re saying, "I don’t like to experience that dust. I don’t like to have to experience, without any consultation with me, this, that, warmth, heat, cold. I… I… that’s… it’s… it’s just these darn arbitrary experiences uh… that… uh… I just don’t like it that’s all.

Now, how do you get up their level of selection? By letting them run away from them?

No, because to run away from something is to agree even further not only that it exists, but that it exists and is dangerous.

So, you see, that’s an extension of agreement.

You know that you can frighten a person suddenly and they go into a hypnotic trance? And if you were to frighten a person suddenly and to say something real fast to them, you’d lay in a beautiful engram? You show them "this is dangerous"; they desert it quickly. You put right in that spot an experience; when they try to move back over and take over that spot they just move right back into that. And that thing commands them thereafter.

That is the TRICK on making an agreement. You could say… you can s… watch this in experience: people become that of which they are afraid. People create that which they fear.


Hubbard, L. R. (1952, 2 December). Gradient Scales of Handling Space, Energies and Objects. Philadelphia Doctorate Course (PDC-05). Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
INTELLIGENCE SPECIALIST TRAINING ROUTINE – TR L
Purpose: To train the student to give a false statement with good TR-1. To train the student to outflow false data effectively.
Commands: Part l “Tell me a lie”.

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Using Hypnosis - Chapter 9, Hypnotism and Hitlerism

Post by lermanet_com » Sun May 02, 2010 5:51 am


The ONLY defense to covert mental manipulation is to become familiar with the techniques being used to manipulate you, and then point out who is using those techniques to others.


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Hypnotism and Hitlerism by George Estabrooks

As the reader will recall, we have several times made the statement that Hitler was the worlds best hypnotist. Moreover, we have said that we were not playing on words. We can best understand Hitler's success by understanding hypnotism, which is merely exaggerated suggestibility. One psychologist defined suggestion as "the acceptance of a proposition in the absence of adequate proof." Let us take an example which may apply to any one of us in the next five years, and work our way back to our explanation from that.

You are seated in front of your fire on an evening with your thoughts centered on the latest best-seller. Your neighbor, Graves, arrives for a friendly chat. He is quite calm and mentions that another of your neighbors, Smith, has come in for a little gossip lately. It appears that his name was Schmidt before he changed it and that he was born in Germany. You like Smith even if he was once Schmidt. Besides, you are very comfortable and don't wish to be disturbed. Graves mentions the fact that Smith is suspected of being a German spy, but Graves is not all excited, and you let the matter drop there.

This is situation number one. Note very carefully what happens next when we hear more rumors or facts concerning Schmidt and proceed to whip up your emotions, in other words, to use suggestion. Two hours later Graves returns. He has obviously been drinking and is very excited. He has heard again that this man Scmidt --alias Smith -- is a German spy. We are at war with Germany. Graves has a son in the army. So have you. Why wait until this man has a chance to do his dirty work. Let's go over to his house, take him out, and lynch him!

Now, what happens? That depends pretty largely upon you. Probably when you realize Graves has been drinking and that Schmidt is likely the victim of gossip you try to quiet grave's obsessions, but if you are one of those individuals who is highly suggestible himself, if you belong to the "one in five" club he may very easily convert you to his point of view and the two of you set off to arouse the town.

You may, of course, be one of those people who are "negatively" suggestible, who react contrary to all suggestions. In that case you will do your best to argue with Graves, to point out to him the fact that he has no real basis for his suspicions and that the whole matter is one for the police. You might even call up the authorities after he has left and warn them that Schmidt may need police protection.

But you are probably one of those individuals who likes to be fair-minded and also likes to keep out of trouble. The chances are you will decline to go with Graves and simply sit at home confused and worried over the whole affair.

Now let us go along to situation number three. Two hours later you hear a tremendous commotion across the street. Graves has been successful and a mob of fifty men have assembled in front of Schmidt's house intent on lynching him. You rush out to see what it is all about, and ask the first member of the mob what is happening.

"This man Schmidt is a German spy. we are going to lynch him."

"How do you know he is a spy?"

"Everybody says so. Come on. Let's get him."

Now what do you do? As you read this book you are convinced you would rush to the front and beg that howling mob to use reason. But probably you would do no such thing. A mob is a very ugly proposition. It takes a very brave man to stand in front of one of these emotional avalanches, and few of us have the courage.Experience shows that you probably will hang around the edge of the mob, feeling very unhappy with everything but make no actual attempt to stop the lynching.

Then something curious is very liable to happen. You slowly become interested in the mob. After all, you are an American, you have a son in the army. Schmidt was born in Germany. Why shouldn't he be a spy? Everyone says so and who are you to combat the will of the group. Your open hostility to the mob changes to acquiescence. They can do as they wish, so far as you are concerned.

Study of these situations shows us that the next step is liable to follow in very short order. Your passive acquiescence changes to active participation. You yourself become one of the mob and are just as to determined to bring Schmidt to a summary justice as is any other member of the group. Quietly reading this book, such a statement can seem absurd, but we can assure you it is anything but absurd. The mob has a fatal habit of engulfing those who come merely as passive spectators.

Why? Let us look at the actual working of your own mind as you leave the house to reason with that group of angry men. Emotion is one great sensitizer of the human brain and so leaves the individual very open to suggestion. You suddenly plunge yourself into a highly emotional situation.

The first emotion to make itself felt, if you wish to interfere, will be plain fear. If you attempt to thwart that mob you do so at the risk of your own life, and there are not many people in this world who will gamble their lives to oppose a group of their own friends and neighbors. On the other hand, you may realize that you should do just that thing. You are torn betwixt duty and fear, a very upsetting emotional state.

But there is another peculiarity of emotion which will tend to make you, the innocent bystander, more suggestible and may very easily drag you into the mob. This we term emotional contagion.

Emotions are as contagious as measles.

We see this clearly in any social situation. At the movies we laugh together, weep at the same time or all become patriotic when we see the flag. If we see a group of men laughing before a store window we are probably smiling very broadly before we have the least idea what is in that window. Should we see another group collected on the road and looking very serious we will suspect an accident and will not approach that group, ourselves, prepared to burst into laughter.

This fact of emotional contagion is very important in mob psychology. More than one writer on the subject has noted how easily the mob absorbed into itself the stranger who certainly had nothing in common with that mob and might never see its members again in all his life.

It is very difficult in dealing with this question of the mob and its high suggestibility to say which of certain factors come first. One very important factor, however, which probably helps emotional contagion is that which we term restriction of the field of consciousness. In normal life we are always attending to many things at once. This does not allow any one thing to monopolize our attention. But in the mob we are attending to only one thing for there is nothing else to distract our attention. The roaring of the mob, or the wild exhortations of the leader are effective in blotting out every other stimulus.

The result is clear. One train of suggestions and only one fall on the ears of the listener. He already has his emotions aroused, so he is hyper suggestible. These suggestions he is now receiving are also highly emotional in character. As a result we have that peculiar "avalanching" of emotional fury which we see in the mob. The more suggestible, the more emotional; the more emotional, the more suggestible, a terribly vicious circle which can easily get out of hand and cause great trouble.

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Post by lermanet_com » Wed May 05, 2010 11:07 pm

Nota Bene - this was written 50 years ago..
Hypnotism and Hitlerism by Estabrooks continued...

The writer was visiting a small American town in the north one New Year's Eve. Everything seemed quite normal. At the head of Main Street the crowd became rough.Perhaps the police were not as tactful as they might have been but it was all very obscure. The crowd started breaking windows. the police interfered, and the fat was in the fire. the mob thoroughly"beat up" two policemen and raged through half a mile of that town smashing and looting according to the very best mob traditions. Only a detachment of regular troops finally got the situation in hand. The next morning both the town, the authorities and the mob members were completely puzzled as to what really occurred.

In another city the writer was present when a lynching occurred. It was the usual story of a white woman insulted by a Negro. The crowd went wild, wrecked the Negro quarter and finally hanged the culprit to a lamp post. Unfortunately it was not the culprit but a man who, as later investigation showed, could not possibly have been associated with the crime in question. But the mob had its way and the man was dead as might have been anyone, white or black, who interfered with that group at the height of its fury.

Restriction of the field of consciousness and emotional contagion undoubtedly are very important factors in determining the high suggestibility -- hypnotizibility, if you will, -- of the mob. It is difficult to say which precedes the other, whether the high emotion tends to restrict the field of consciousness or vice versa. But once we have our mob well under way there are two other factors which tend to give it that irresistible fury so characteristic of these groups.

One of these we term social sanction. Man is a social animal. As one authority puts it, every situation is a social situation. We simply must conform to some group somewhere. That group may even be an ideal one and have no real existense, but to the average man the group is not ideal but very real. His religious sect, his political party, perhaps his secret fraternity command his loyalty. He is very dependent upon the opinion of this group and will go a long way to have his conduct conform to its ideals.

In the mob he suddenly finds himself in another group and here, as a member of that group, he acts under group sanction. He has the feeling of omnipotence. Everyone in sight agrees that he should hang Smith or that he should join the Marines. In his highly emotional and suggestible state of mind he is quite willing to do either. This "group sanction" is all that is necessary to turn the scales and he acts accordingly.

The final factor we would call the readers attention in considering the mob is the removal of inhibitions, a result of the three factors already mentioned. The individual, highly suggestible, in a storm of emotion and acting with the approval of the group will commit acts of which he would never dream in a normal state. Destruction of property, looting, even murder are all familiar phenomena to those who have studied mob activity. Yet take almost any member of that mob, propose to him individually after a good meal that he break a plate glass window, steal a fur coat or murder his neighbor and he wold recoil in horror. Man does not do that sort of thing unless he is acting under the influence of suggestion or perhaps certain drugs. At any rate, he is not normal according to his own higher standards.

Let us now note the very close resemblance between the psychology of the mob and the factors underlying hypnotism. Both emotion and hypnotism desensitize the brain. There is one large school of thought in psychology which would claim hypnotism or exaggerated suggestibility to be simply an emotional state, that the suggestion we get as a result of high emotion is identical with that which we obtain from hypnotism.

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Post by lermanet_com » Thu May 06, 2010 4:52 am

In this school of thought we would find the psychoanalysts and many others who cannot agree with psychoanalysis and all its teachings. We ourselves agree with their viewpoint and claim that the study of hypnotism is one excellent way of approaching mob psychology.

Take the five factors we have outlined as the essentials of mob psychology.

First, an appeal to the emotions by prestige or direct suggestion. To the writer there can be no doubt that we do the same in hypnotism. This is not quites so evident in the laboratory technique, perhaps, but it is clearly seen in the approach of the stage hypnotist. His whole technique consists in throwing his subject off balance emotionally and then following up his advantage before the victim has a chance to regain composure.

The writer once had one of these professionals as his guest. Several students who were majors in psychology came around to make his acquaintance. They asked him to demonstrate and he demonstrated one or two simple tests which located for him couple of good subjects. Then the real demonstration began. These men knew that, in theory, he could not hypnotize them without their consent, and were inclined to be a little contemptuous of this illiterate stage hypnotist, illiterate in that he was a "show man" and knew nothing whatsoever of academic psychology. This attitude nettled the visitor and decided that a lesson was in order.

Approaching one of those he decided were good subjects he made a blunt announcement, "I'm going to hypnotize you."

"Thanks, but I don't want to be hypnotized."

"That doesn't mean a thing," replied the professional. He stepped up quickly in front of his victim, seized him by both arms, looked straight in his eyes and said "Now, listen, my child, I'm going to give a lesson in manners. You can't take your eyes off mine, so don't waste time in trying. And you can't sit down in that chair, so stand where you are. You are going sound asleep. I will count to five. By the time I get to five you will be out on your feet."

And he was. The subject was obviously angry, made abortive attempts to strike the hypnotist but went into a deep trance, a very neat display of the highly emotional nature of the "professional" attack. If any of our readers will take the opportunity of watching the stage performer work on his subject for the first time, they will clearly see what we mean. He does not "play around," but goes right to the point with a direct, domineering, frontal attack. Such an approach is highly unpleasant to most people and awakens strong emotions closely akin to fear an anger. This, of course, plays directly into the hypnotist's hands. The emotion sensitizes the brain so that his suggestions then become irresistible.

This emotional factor is not quite so apparent in the psychologists laboratory but the elements are present. The average individual approaches an hypnotic experiment with mixed feelings, generally curiosity and some slight degree of fear. With certain individuals this emotional outlook is more to the fore that with others and it seems probable that these people turn out to be the really good subjects. Why these particular subjects should react with high emotion while others do not is a point in theory which is beyond the scope of this book.

After this direct appeal to emotion, which if successful makes the individual highly suggestible, we have as our next step in mob psychology a restriction of the field of consciousness. It is difficult to say whether this precedes or follows emotional contagion but we will presume it comes first. This of fundamental importance to the success of hypnotism as well. All out techniques aim at confining the subjects attention to some very limited field. the early "mesmerist" accomplished this end by having the subject look in his eyes while he further held his attention by a series of impressive passes.

( face passes - a specialty technique...perfected by the seasoned street thief )

Braid, working in the 1840's, used the trick of having his subjects concentrate on some bright object generally held in a position that it put a slight strain on the eyes. This technique reached its culmination in the mirror of Lys , a rotating mirror which continually flashed a light into the subjects eyes, so serving to hold his attention while the operator made his suggestions.

The professional on the stage accomplishes the same end with is direct, domineering attack, trusting to hold the subject's attention by this method, while the psychologist strives toward the same end with a somewhat different technique. Quiet and monotonous repetition are the keynotes of his "sleeping" technique. "You are falling sound asleep, sound asleep. You are going deeper and deeper. Your limbs are tired, your elbows and knees feel tired. You are falling sound asleep." He repeats this formula world without end, trusting that his voice will monopolize the subject's attention and restrict the field of consciousness.

Thus we see another close resemblance between the psychology of the mob and the psychology of suggestion or hypnotism. The reader will bear with us as we follow through this line of attack, for once we have established the very close relationship between the two we will be in a position to really understand the secret of Hitler's power or of most other great public figures either of our own day or as described for us in history.
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(I believe the stage hypnotist who did the demonstration above was none other than Ralph Slater! Who played Carnegie Hall SEVEN TIMES.. the last time.. in May.. 1950!!! his book has been turned into a too-large pdfHERE by Lermanet.com)
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Post by peter » Thu May 06, 2010 8:02 am

Soderqvist1: is Excalibur Mob-Psychology?

Yes, There Was a Book Called "Excalibur" by L. Ron Hubbard by Arthur J. Burks
Probably the part of the book that has stuck with me the most thru this period of time was the story of the lynch mob going to the prison to take out somebody to be lynched. He puts you with the person who is waiting to be lynched. The warden comes and looks at the person and says, "Well, they're coming for you, Bud. I don't know whether I'm going to be able to stop them, but I'll tell you one thing, it's not going to cost me my life to do it. If they come in and get you, they'll get you." The warden just looked and sort of gloated over the person who couldn't get away. He enjoyed the sadistic feeling of seeing a person who was bound and hog-tied and couldn't get away. He goes on with this to the place where you were both the warden and the person in the cell, and you really get to feel pretty terrible for everybody connected with it.

Then you take a look at the stiff-legged march of the lynch mob. This is something I'll never forget. I don't remember a single word Ron used, but he started back from there with showing how a lynch mob started - somebody got up and said something, and somebody pulled others together - and as soon as they were together, the person who had started it might or might not lead, but the chances were that he would vanish into the mob that he had started in order not to be responsible. Each person knew that very dreadful things were going to be done, but he scarcely would be responsible. He would be there but he wouldn't actually do much taking part in it. Each one felt he was going along for the ride, so to speak, but he walks just as stiff-legged as the other fellow.
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Post by lermanet_com » Thu May 06, 2010 6:05 pm

Thank you Peter!
wow.. makes you think...


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Maureen just reminded me that a book by George Estabrooks that she found is the only book OTHER than Hubbard's OEC Volumes...whose text is printed in green ink .
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Post by lermanet_com » Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:41 pm

In hypnotism the operator takes the place of the subject's parents, father or mother. The subject transfers to the hypnotist the feeling he had for his parent as a child. The attitude of the operator in question will determine whether he is to be the father or mother. If the subject, as a child, was submissive to his parent, he will be a good hypnotic subject and vice versa. This attitude of the child is obviously one of emotion, so that hypnotism, according to Ferenzi, would depend on emotion. A neat theory which may or may not be true. The writer is inclined to favor it.

Be that as it may, we can now perhaps see a little more clearly how the laws of hypnotism may become so very important in our everyday life. Every situation we face in life is a social situation, that it so say it involves other people. Almost invariably this situation involves a leader. He may be appointed, he may seize authority, or he may just gravitate to the top. The boss in the office is a typical example, the dictator on the radio not so typical but far more powerful. Now if by any device this leader can arouse our emotions, can “get under our skins,” then his words, his suggestions, falling on our sensitized brains will have far more weight than those same suggestions given us by a stranger or in a magazine article where no emotion is involved. He is, for all intents and purposes, a hypnotist.

Our reactions may be antagonistic – negative suggestion-- but we will react violently. But if the dictator or boss in question knows his business he will take care not to arouse antagonism. He will appeal to the pleasure principle in some form or other. He will tell us that we are being persecuted, robbed, hemmed in. He will appeal to our patriotism, our love of home and family. He will promise us security, wealth, glory if we do what he says. And if he knows what he is about we will fall under his spell just as surely as a subject ever falls under the trance of the hypnotist.

This technique of “direct” or “prestige” suggestion we see clearly in the stage hypnotist. His success depends on a forceful frontal attack. He never allows the subject's gaze to shift from his own and literally bullies him into the hypnotic trance. Here we have clear evidence of the emotional factor in hypnosis. The psychologist in his laboratory also uses this prestige suggestion although in quieter form. But whether it be the stage hypnotist, the laboratory psychologist or Hitler on the radio, results are the same, so far as psychology is concerned. The suggestions fall on a highly sensitized brain and such suggestions have tremendous force, a force altogether out of proportion to any value the proposals, as such, may have.

Let us now consider a few facts which we have gathered from our study of hypnotism in the laboratory. One in every five of the human race are highly suggestible, at least half are suggestible to a very considerable degree. But here mere figures do not tell the story. That one-fifth has a power far beyond its numbers, for this typer of man, acting under direct suggestion, is no mere average person. He is a fanatic in the highest – or lowest – sense of the word.
Page 135-136 Hypnotism by George Estabrooks.

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Post by crm1978 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:46 pm

Great topic hypnosis
I always wondered why after being out of Cof$ for so long why it still has a strange sort of hold on my mind .Ironic scientology might be the ultiment "implant" it also may be why it is so hard for people to leave active membership or to recover there mental health after leaving.

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Post by rosemari » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:03 pm

What is the similarities and differences between hypnosis, meditation and biofeedback. Why do so many people find them so helpful? In what way do you think they might relate to our universal love of music?

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