Smurf wrote:
Gumbythetruth wrote:
AngryGayPope wrote:
You can't let it go because you can't get back all the people who were turned off by wwp.net and left the movement.
I understand where you are coming from AGP, sort of. Thing is, YOU are still active as are many others. Being at odd,s with an internet entity (WWP) should not @ the end of the day be the defacto reason why or why not an individual either protests publicly or personally for that matter.
Your zeal and passion is admirable AGP. I personally may not care for your brand of activism, yet @ the end of the day,if I am truely honest with myself, I must accept the fact people differ in the hows and whys they expose a social evil.
AGP often refers to the large numbers of people leaving quitting the protests and leaving WWP as the reasons for Anonymous losing its effectiveness. If one looks back to the advent of Anonymous & 4chan taking on Scientology, the age range of the movement consisted mostly of teens to young adults who protested because it was fun and they were further motivated by the reactions they got from Scientology staff.. cut, run & hide from protesters.
Most of the former movement have moved on to other things in their lives. It has absolutely nothing to do with the "failure" of Anonymous or WWP... many have gone onto college, gotten jobs, have taken up other more worthwhile causes, taken up other social pursuits, etc. It's quite depressing when a protest is announced on WWP and a very small number of anons bother to show up anymore.. but that's life. At the last protest on L Ron Hubbard Way, it took just a few anons, Tory, Lynn, and myself to turn the area into a ghost town and to watch the Scios engage in "curtain tech."
I recall a decade ago that OCMB was a very busy board... today it is different. Many people that used to post on OCMB have also moved on with their lives and engaged in other pursuits not related to Scientology.
Smurf. I at one time looked at public protesting scientology in my area as a positive. NEVER was it my intent to drive the scientologists in doors or into hiding. Protesting was more of a way to inform the local citizens that perhaps they need to be made aware a cult is in their community. My protest signage always directed interested parties to informational websites, so those individuals could come to their own conclusions. I know and of all people YOU know scientology is potentially harmful.
There is nothing I can do about those IN the cult. There is a tremendous amount I can do to aid another generation of people to not become influenced by Hubbards madness. What you have said in your post is rather alien to me. What has been gained by driving people indoors? Please do not come back with" It keeps the cult from body routing others in".
If an individual wants sci, there is not much one can do to keep them from signing on the dotted line. Now during the last 3 years, I would say the months of February 2008 through October 2008 were the apex months for public roadside protests. Now? Not so much.
Your neck of the world LA is but one location the cult occupies on this marble. What may or may not work in LaLa land may or may not work in other areas of the world. It is not to far of a stretch to see how a well meaning group of activists can become cult like in behavior. This whole issue of one must protest on a monthly basis is IMHO bizarre to say the least. Then if one does not publicy protest monthly, one is not considered doing their part for the "Group".
After almost 3 years this protesting publicly is or has been for some time looked rather obsessive in nature. A way of life for some. I am not slagging off those that feel voicing their distain for the cult in a public fashion is a bad thing, just that after a while maybe behind the scenes work has a more far reaching affect on how the cult operates.