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 Post subject: WWP Crosspost: "A Meeting with my scilon Bro January 2011"
PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:46 pm 
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A brief encounter posted by "pedrofcuk" on whyweprotest.net.....

pedrofcuk, posting on WWP, wrote:
A Meeting with my scilon Bro January 2011

Earlier this week I travelled from Ireland to the UK for my uncle's funeral. I was also going to meet my brother for the first time since he left the Sea Org a few weeks ago.

I arrive at the home place, hug my Mom and ask where is my brother, he's in his bedroom. I head up the stairs.

I knock on the door, open it, say, "Hi, Happy New year!"
He says, don't come in here and don't speak to me.
I says, "OMG it's worse than I thought."
I leave the doorway.

Later in the kitchen I ask him if it's okay to apply the universal solvent, communication and his reply is, "I will communicate with you when you are no longer associated with an international terrorist organisation." (This is you lot btw).
I laugh and say, "Boy, they have fed you some lies."
He says, "It's not lies, I read it."
All this is upsetting our 80 year old mother so I STFU.

On the morning of his departure I feel that I have to say something so I tell him it's been nice seeing him again but he has to know some stuff that I know about his so-called religion. He tells me this: "Your only terminal is the Continental Justice Chief."
I laugh and remark, "If he's still on post, all the International Executives are gone, why are OTs leaving in droves?"
His reply is, "They are not."

Funny thing, half an hour after this conversation I pick up the Metro and read about Paul Haggis, ironic or what?

I say they are and ask him why they wear glasses when eyesight is supposed to be improved as stated in Dianetics. He tells me I know nothing. And to look in the mirror.
I say, "I know everything, I was in it for 7 years. And what am I to see in a mirror? My physical form or me thetan?"
He snorts at this.

My Mother is extremely upset so I end up with, when you get your head out of your arse I'll be here for you. He then attacks me for not writing to him over the past 23 years. I say, I did write to you, he tells me, not enough.
He tells me I can write to him, so that's good. I STFU as my Mam is crying at this stage.
I offer him some documents about scilon devilry and criminal acts but he won't even look
and flops it on the table.

When he gets the taxi, I say, bye, safe journey, he ignores me. He says bye to my Mom with a hug, just looks at my sick Dad and says unemotionally, take care. My Mom and I wave him off.

I live in hope that he will wake up.

Scientology Destroys Families!

ref: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/ ... st-1341110

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 Post subject: Re: WWP Crosspost: "A Meeting with my scilon Bro January 201
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:31 pm 
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It's sure not easy to get through to someone so conditioned by the cult.

Pedrofuck exlained, on the wwp thread, that, although his brother is out of the Sea Org, he is still "in".

Hopefully the brother won't be "in" for much longer.


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 Post subject: Re: WWP Crosspost: "A Meeting with my scilon Bro January 201
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I don't mean to criticize pedro, but I hope he changes his approach... obviously, his brother isn't open to cult criticism at this time.

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 Post subject: Re: WWP Crosspost: "A Meeting with my scilon Bro January 201
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Originally posted by Skeptic2girl:

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I don't mean to criticize pedro, but I hope he changes his approach... obviously, his brother isn't open to cult criticism at this time.


This is a difficult one, and I know from past experience, both with a sibling and with scientologists within the freezone, you are fighting a loosing battle.

LRH is right! Bollochs is/was he, but to them he/is was.

I so wanted my half sister to see that LRH was wrong, unfortunately I went the whole wrong way about it.

I pussyfooted around, in the hope that she would see sense.

Do you know what I got back, Quote" I know what abuse is, my Mother had to sleep on the floor, whilst pregnant, because of LRH doctrine".

What I got from this statement was that no matter what LRH doctrine, he was always right. WRONG! He was a F**king nutter and I seriously wonder if after 30/40 years indoctrination that you can ever really change your mind?

I know I read and listen to Tory Magoo, who was in for 30 years and I am awestruck by her determination to show scientology for what it really is, but does she?

My recent thoughts are with regards the freezone. This IS a cult outside of the cult of Scientology and yet she says this is ok.It's a softer way out.

NO, it is NOT ok.

As I explained earlier on ESMB, the freezone IS the same as calling CAN(Cult Awareness Network) and these people LIE, they are Scientologists.

Trained Scientologists LIE.

SP ORDER "Fair Game".
ENEMY:

May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any scientologist withoutany discipline of the scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.

copyright: L. Ron Hubbard. Founder.

And I am reminded of this written by someone whom I put complete and utter faith in; Where IS the best place to hide something? Right under your nose!

I am not trying to dead agent Tory or anyone else for that matter, I'm just putting down what questions I have regarding the so called "church" of scientology.

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 Post subject: Re: WWP Crosspost: "A Meeting with my scilon Bro January 201
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Originally posted by Me:

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I so wanted my half sister to see that LRH was wrong, unfortunately I went the whole wrong way about it.

I pussyfooted around, in the hope that she would see sense.

Do you know what I got back, Quote" I know what abuse is, my Mother had to sleep on the floor, whilst pregnant, because of LRH doctrine".

What I got from this statement was that no matter what LRH doctrine, he was always right. WRONG! He was a F**king nutter and I seriously wonder if after 30/40 years indoctrination that you can ever really change your mind?


Wanted people to digest that;

This is how trained scientologists think, especially those that go way back to when LRH was around.Everything and everyone is a conspiracy.LRH instilled that in all the people in the sea org, on board the Apollo.

In the end you no longer know what to think.

Another example is; about a year ago I told my Dad, you'll never guess who got in touch with me and he said "who's he spying for now?". This is the mindset that lasts, 40 years later.

That's scientology.

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 Post subject: Re: WWP Crosspost: "A Meeting with my scilon Bro January 201
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I was meant to meet with my scilon sister a couple of years ago.

For at least a year previously I did not want to do that, I knew I would be meeting with a fully indoctrinated scientologist. For me, that was scary beyond belief.

We would have absolutely nothing in common. My hatred for all things Hubbard would not bode well within my half sisters belief system. How would I be able to break down the walls? It was an impossible task.

At last we actually spoke, coerced by a well meaning supposed cousin whom had appeared out of nowhere, and from my stand point, this supposed cousin, could be anyone, anyone on earth. An OSA op for all I know, because from my previous experience with scientology, that IS what they do.

They infiltrate, they take you off guard, they give you a false sense of reality and then they mess with your mind and they do this big time. They did it in 1967/68/and 1969 and I have no reason to doubt that they would do it again in 2007, 2008 and 2009 and continuing because that is what they are trained to do.

Mess with your mind.

They picked the wrong mind to mess with this time, I have been there and done it all before, albeit a long time ago.

I could be wrong, but when it comes down to scientology and giving them the benifit of the doubt, you can forget it, because they have messed with me for far too long.

I have no open opinion about scientology because they have given me every reason to doubt them, in every which way. These people are not the authorities on the mind, they are an organization that destroys peoples minds and they do not care how they do it. Scientology literally makes you mental, drives you insane and that is the whole purpose of the game which is what they play.

And that just about sums it up, they are playing a mental, mind game and they do not care who they destroy in the process.

L. Ron Hubbard wanted to take over the world, and scientology still has that aim in mind.

Remember that, because that is the end game.

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 Post subject: Re: WWP Crosspost: "A Meeting with my scilon Bro January 201
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Scientology literally makes you mental, drives you insane and that is the whole purpose of the game which is what they play.



Yikes. You aren't the first person to say this.

So, do you mind if I ask what happened when you met with your half sister? It doesn't sound like it went well.

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 Post subject: Re: WWP Crosspost: "A Meeting with my scilon Bro January 201
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I'm Glib wrote:

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Yikes. You aren't the first person to say this.

So, do you mind if I ask what happened when you met with your half sister? It doesn't sound like it went well.


We never met,She was meant to turn up for a get together, couldn't make it at the last minute. So we we spoke on the phone. It was an emotional phone call to say the least, and we ended by her saying she would phone the following week and we would get together.She never called back. Which to me was not a surprise at all.

I tried hard to keep it "good roads, fair weather", skirting around issues because I did not want to antagonize her and by this time was myself excited about meeting her.

She asked why our Father had not been instrumental in her upbringing and when I tried to explain, she didn't want to know. Words like Treason and declared SP were too much for her. On a brighter note, she thought it was cool that I had been a Commadores Messenger directly under LRH on the Apollo. I told her "cool" was not the word I would use to describe the experience. She didn't want to know any more.

Every time an important point was either asked or made, we were not allowed to talk about it.

I really feel for Pedrofcuk, because it's like having a one sided conversation.They ask a question, you start to give an answer and it's lock down, because you(me or whoever) is giving the wrong answer, in other words, it's not the answer they want because then that makes Hubbard wrong, and we can't have that, can we.

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