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 Post subject: Re: FBI Investigating COS for Human Trafficking!!!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:28 am 
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From OCMB media section:

For those who may have missed this, hear a very recent (and very good) interview with an actual victim of scientology's human trafficking:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=33882


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 Post subject: Re: FBI Investigating COS for Human Trafficking!!!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:11 am 
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Dorothy wrote:
From OCMB media section:

For those who may have missed this, hear a very recent (and very good) interview with an actual victim of scientology's human trafficking:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=33882


Definitely a must listen. It features "Lazlo", a Hungarian National, ex-sea orger (now living in Tampa).

Also, for those newcomers who haven't seen it, there's the Los Angeles Human Trafficking Press Conference
http://www.xenutv.com/blog/?p=4317
with testimony from ex-sea org scientologists who escaped from he cult's desert gulags: Marc Headley, Jeff Hawkins, Laura DeCescenzo, Will Fry and Maureen Bolstad

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 Post subject: Re: FBI Investigating COS for Human Trafficking!!!
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I hope that this is what we have all been waiting for. If so, I don't see how the Cult will survive it.


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 Post subject: Re: FBI Investigating COS for Human Trafficking!!!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:00 am 
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The report on this I was looking forward to was something like "after so many years of intensive investigation the FBI in cooperation with the ATF and the National Guard have raided V, W, X, Y and Z, seized truckloads of evidence and among others have arrested A, B, C, and D."

Now there's news of investigation but no news of any action that has been taken as a result of the investigation. I'm hopeful but I'm not counting any chickens here.

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 Post subject: Re: FBI Investigating COS for Human Trafficking!!!
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The report on this I was looking forward to was something like "after so many years of intensive investigation the FBI in cooperation with the ATF and the National Guard have raided V, W, X, Y and Z, seized truckloads of evidence and among others have arrested A, B, C, and D."...

I heard that this particular announcement is slated for a later date. Big Sis had to handle the Super Bowl and now she has to take care of a few other things before the Great Big Raid.

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 Post subject: Re: FBI Investigating COS for Human Trafficking!!!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:42 am 
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Woo hoo! Go get 'em FBI.

Here's my video on the subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A4l-GItmxY

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 Post subject: Re: FBI Investigating COS for Human Trafficking!!!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:26 pm 
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Judith Anderson wrote:
I hope that this is what we have all been waiting for. If so, I don't see how the Cult will survive it.

I am pessimistic.. there have been too many times in the past where exes have spoken to the FBI, walked away excited, and nothing came of it. When Graham Berry met with the FBI and provided them boxes of evidence, he was rebuffed and told, in essence, that the FBI didn't have the manpower or $$ to pursue recourse against a cult that has alot of $$ and powerful attorneys at it's beck and call.

Often, the FBI will do cursory investigations, then put the matter on the back-burner. Hopefully, it's not the case this time.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:52 pm 
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Interesting point raised by lawyer, tikk, posting on wwp, regarding part of scientology's response which was read out during the msnbc Today Show interview with Lawrence Wright today....

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Scientology responded to the information that the FBI is investigating it for human trafficking with a statement read on the Today show, that this is old news because a lawsuit involving the same allegations was dismissed in federal court. This is unsurprisingly disingenuous, given that (a) allegations made a civil lawsuit hardly precludes the possibility that that practice nevertheless occurs; and (b) the merits of the underlying claims in the Headley lawsuits were never reached by the court--it never concluded that human trafficking did not occur there, only that Scientology was protected by the ministerial exception with regard to the claims. The court's decision was poorly considered, but regardless, it's apples to the FBI's oranges.

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The spiked fence at Int Base was a big clue that the Cult did not want its own members and SP Hall prisoners escaping:

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 Post subject: Re: FBI Investigating COS for Human Trafficking!!!
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Anonymous wrote:

Erm.....
FBI website wrote:
Ms. Whitehill: “We work on a task force in Los Angeles called the Los Angeles Metro Area Task Force on Human Trafficking, and we work with various non-governmental organizations; one of them is called CAST—Coalition to Abolish Slavery and Trafficking.

(That’s Special Agent Tricia Whitehill in the FBI’s Los Angeles office)

CAST LA website....
http://www.castla.org/coalition-members
Quote:
Rescue & Restore Regional Coalition Partners
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Youth for Human Rights International (YHRI)
www . youthforhumanrights . org <<warning! scientology cult front group website

Related threads:
OCMB: http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32760
WWP: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/alert-cult-compromises-human-trafficking-help-group.62507/

We never did find out why, after it being made aware to them, why CAST LA still lists a scientology front group as one of their "Rescue & Restore Regional Coalition Partners".
With the news that there is an ongoing FBI investigation, I think some answers are in order, because, on the face of it, it looks rather incompetent to say the least.

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 Post subject: Re: FBI Investigating COS for Human Trafficking!!!
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As has been posted in OCMB Media Section, The Today Show with Matt Lauer went big this morning with a piece on Paul Haggis' story in The New Yorker: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/ ... 9#41456859

Larry Wright is interviewed by Matt Lauer.

People can now see the value of what Marty Rathbun has been reporting on his blog. It is all there in Larry Wright's story and the Matt Lauer interview:

* An FBI investigation into The Church of Scientology for human trafficking; human rights abuses; and physical abuse by David Miscavige.

* Child labor with 10 and 12 year old children working in Sea Org in slave labor conditions based upon billion year contracts. What kind of group enslaves children for .36 cents an hour with no medical benefits or even a formal education? Scientology is a Slave Labor-Money-Cult. Scientology publics should leave CoS based upon the fact that it uses slave labor. Wins in session are immoral and spiritually evil if they are based upon slave labor, particularly of children.

* David Miscavige beating his staff.

* The surreal world inside of the Cult of Scientology. The willful blindness of Scientology publics to the cruelty and human rights abuses inside of the Sea Org.

* Paul's admission of his own blindness when he was a member of CoS; this is a common event that happens until Scientologists have their own Truman Show and leave CoS.

* Tommy Davis calling Paul Haggis an apostate for telling the truth and speaking out.

* Tommy Davis and the Cult denying everything in a Stalinst fashion by calling it all lies. This refusal to confront its own Evil is what keeps CoS trapped in a self-destructive downward spiral.

Culture keeps getting the message that the Church of Scientology is a corrupt, evil Cult whose tax exempt religious status needs to be taken away for all of the right reasons!

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 Post subject: Re: FBI Investigating COS for Human Trafficking!!!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:44 pm 
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BFG (Blown for Good) posted this today on WWP. (I agree that there's now PR or back peddling that's gonna fix it all this time. Abuses and crimes and the Crazy began escalating couple years ago, from all accounts of those who've left in that time frame. It's like a captain that shoots off flares every day, day after day. It strikes me that maybe there's a subliminal cry for help somewhere in all this).

"It has been a very busy last 2 years for the Scilons.

Why do you think they moved all manufacturing posts from Gold to Bridge?
Why do think they cancelled all freeloader bills?
Why do you think they started to let Sea Org members go visit their families?
Why do think they forced pregnant couples to leave the Sea Org and paid them huge amounts of money as severance pay and got them jobs and a place to live?

But, there are still potential security threats that still exist. These they cannot get to go away.
If ones of these people snap, it is all over. There are also people that could spill the beans on David Miscavige and his activities.

The Scilons have known the FBI has been watching them and the Scilons have been doing everything they can to backtrack and make any and all offenses go away.

The Scilons had to ease up so people do not run to the FBI.

As soon as they started easing up, people started leaving and finding out the truth. This in turn has led to more things being exposed.
This year will be very productive for those who wish to expose scilon abuses.

Until next time...

BFG"

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Maybe Tommy Davis could compare notes with Baghdad Bob.


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 Post subject: Re: FBI Investigating COS for Human Trafficking!!!
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In the middle of this huge news day OCMB became unavailable for a brief period of time. I used the red phone to call OCMB NORAD for an update. No incoming hostiles over North American airspace were reported. Did something happen with OCMB CLO EU?

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 Post subject: Re: FBI Investigating COS for Human Trafficking!!!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:42 pm 
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That had me worried, too, Swift. Not sure what happened, but the truth cannot be stopped.

I was right in the middle of posting and brilliant post when the board went down, and now I can't remember what it was, sigh.

Anyway, happy dance.

Also, I know that the FBI has been conducting this investigation since (at least) July 2009.

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