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 Post subject: Ordinance 884, Residentia​l Picketing back in Riverside
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:40 am 
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Protester AnonOrange emailed me this today:

Hi folks,

It's back! It's on next Tuesday, Feb 8th agenda.
http://rivcocob.com/agenda/2011/02_08_2011.htm

3.1 SUPERVISOR STONE: Adopt an Order Initiating an Amendment to Ordinance No. 884, an Ordinance Regulating Targeted Residential Picketing.

Last week I spoke to Vern Lauritzen, chief of staff for Jeff Stone:
http://www.supjeffstone.org/staff/vlauritzen.asp

I said: "Hey Vern, when's Ordinance 884 goin be repealed?"
He said: "He does not want it repealed!" and continued to explain what they plan on doing.


I have a problem with that. It's not Jeff Stone that decides for all 5 supervisors. Jeff Stone alone should not be stating that the ordinance will not be repealed. The ordinance needs to be brought up to all supervisors, for ALL to decide if it should be repealed or not. Certainly Buster would like to have his say.

Second, they want to reduce the distance down to 3 feet to the property line, which in most cases is INVISIBLE. That unenforceable by any sheriff officer who doesn't happen to also be a surveyor! The even considered ZERO feet, but that would invalidate the need for an ordinance in the first place, because protesters are not supposed to be on private residential property while protesting anyway.

The attached picture show approximately where you can stand, shouting all day at Danny and not get in trouble. If you line up right in front of the guard shack, you wont be blocking ingress/egress and you should be just fine. It might be best if you can bring a surveyor with you.

So the whole thing is silly and they just want to keep the ordinance just so they can keep face and not look like they lost the battle. Jeff Stone used Ordinance 884 in his Senate campaign to promote himself. It seems to me that Stone promised Scientology that the Ordinance will stay and he's doing everything he can to keep it on the books.

Please attend the Board Meeting. It's the first item on the Policy calendar and I expect the vote will take place as early as 9:30. Maybe that's why it's the first item on the agenda.

Please notify the "Ladies of Riverside, Julie & Lirra". I don't have their e-mail addresses.

Francois
(310) 597-9532

Here as some 2010 aerial pictures of Gold Base showing the new landscaping and including the African village (north west of the castle), while it was under construction. It's still there last time I checked. It was supposed to be there for just 6 weeks.
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 Post subject: Re: Ordinance 884, Residentia​l Picketing back in Riverside
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:23 am 
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AngryGayPope wrote:
Protester AnonOrange emailed me this today:

It's back! It's on next Tuesday, Feb 8th agenda.
http://rivcocob.com/agenda/2011/02_08_2011.htm

3.1 SUPERVISOR STONE: Adopt an Order Initiating an Amendment to Ordinance No. 884, an Ordinance Regulating Targeted Residential Picketing.

Last week I spoke to Vern Lauritzen, chief of staff for Jeff Stone:
http://www.supjeffstone.org/staff/vlauritzen.asp

I said: "Hey Vern, when's Ordinance 884 goin be repealed?"
He said: "He does not want it repealed!" and continued to explain what they plan on doing.


I have a problem with that. It's not Jeff Stone that decides for all 5 supervisors. Jeff Stone alone should not be stating that the ordinance will not be repealed. The ordinance needs to be brought up to all supervisors, for ALL to decide if it should be repealed or not. Certainly Buster would like to have his say.

First, it is obvious that the majority of the supervisors approve of Stone's ammendment. All of them, with the exception of Buster, approved the original ordinance. You're a twit if you don't think these guys talk to each other outside of chambers.

The final decision of the amendment is made by all 5 supervisors with the majority vote winning. I never expected the Supervisors to repeal the ordinance. To do so, would be to admit they made a bad decision in the first place, and no politician wants that on their record. They are saving face by voting to amend.


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 Post subject: Re: Ordinance 884, Residentia​l Picketing back in Riverside
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:49 am 
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AngryGayPope wrote:

...they want to reduce the distance down to 3 feet to the property line...


Oh, this is too funny. :D That's closer than we usually stand when we protest out there. Could it be that Jeff Stone has a sense of humor?


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 Post subject: Jeff Stone's sense of humor
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:45 pm 
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hairlol wrote:
AngryGayPope wrote:

...they want to reduce the distance down to 3 feet to the property line...


Oh, this is too funny. :D That's closer than we usually stand when we protest out there. Could it be that Jeff Stone has a sense of humor?


He must have a sense of humor. The way he is running riverside is a joke! Billions in debt I heard.


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 Post subject: AnonOrange says Press Enterprise doing a story on Ordinance
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:38 am 
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ANONORANGE:The Press-Enterprise will be writing about Ordinance 884 tomorrow. They are also doing catchup by reading the New Yorker article. (See e-mails below)


Please make an effort to attend tomorrow's Riverside Board of Supervisors Meeting where these subjects will be discussed.


It's also going to be a great time to talk about human rights abuses, which have been ignored by this Board for decades. Riverside county law enforcement, it's courts and supervision will be a huge embarrassment to the world if they continue to ignore this.


If any Scientology Exes, Independents and critics can attend, you'll be able to speak to the reporters or address the board directly. It's the first thing on the Policy Calendar. It's best to be there before 9:30. .
http://rivcocob.com/agenda/2011/02_08_2011.htm


Ordinance 884 is a great example on how corporate Scientology gets it's way with law enforcement and politicians worldwide. The evil originates in Riverside county and that's where we have to stop it.


Please do your best to attend or pass this along to others that can attend.


I'll be there!


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 Post subject: Re: Ordinance 884, Residentia​l Picketing back in Riverside
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:45 am 
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http://www.swrnn.com/southwest-riversid ... ped-create

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Supervisor Stone proposing revisions to anti-picketing measure he helped create

Posted By jose.arballo On February 7, 2011 @ 7:02 pm

An anti-picketing measure approved by Riverside County supervisors in the face of heated criticism nearly two years ago is expected to be largely undone tomorrow — at the request of the very supervisor who wanted it in the first place.

On a 4-1 vote in late February 2009, the Board of Supervisors implemented Ordinance 884, which prohibited “targeted residential picketing” closer than 30 feet from a person’s residence. Then-board Chairman Jeff Stone introduced the measure, arguing that it was necessary to protect people from harassment while in the comfort of their home.

Supervisor Bob Buster was the sole dissenter, saying the new law was unnecessary and imposed restrictions on people’s ability to exercise their constitutional right to peaceably assemble and protest.

Now Stone is proposing to shorten the prohibited distance from 30 feet to three feet from a targeted residence’s property line.

“The reduction will better protect the public’s First Amendment rights, while still maintaining the privacy interest of residential occupants and the ability of law enforcement to preserve order,” the supervisor wrote in his amendment proposal.

It’s unclear whether the anti-picketing measure has ever been enforced. A sheriff’s department report in September 2009 indicated there had been no instances in which it was applied.

From the beginning, Stone’s proposal was blasted by two county residents — Lirra Bishop of Perris and Julie Waltz of Norco — as well as members of the anti-Scientology group Anonymous.

Bishop and Waltz have made repeated appearances before the board, denouncing Ordinance 884 as an affront to freedom and raising questions about how and why it was conceived.

Stone cited instances of harassment of Church of Scientology members at their 700-acre Golden Era compound near Hemet as the impetus for the ordinance, as well as threats against supporters of Proposition 8, which confers legal recognition of marriage between only a man and woman in California.

The supervisor has received political campaign contributions from church attorney Sam Alhadeff.

During his push to have the ordinance enacted, Stone characterized members of Anonymous as militant hate-mongers who passed around racist literature and other provocative materials online. However, members of the group, who come from all walks of life, argued Stone was relying on propaganda supplied by church officials.

Anonymous activists demonstrate outside the Golden Era compound regularly, calling attention to what they allege are human rights violations by the church. None of the demonstrations have been violent.

Stone said the language of the ordinance, which was modeled on targeted picketing restrictions in the cities of Riverside and San Diego, as well as San Diego County, had passed muster with the United States Supreme Court.


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 Post subject: It was never enforced
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:34 am 
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Not only was it not enforced, once I had to stomp on under $400 worth of pansies just to get the police to show up at all there! It is probably worse now with so many cops laid off. There are even fewer officers available to not show up :)


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 Post subject: Re: Ordinance 884, Residentia​l Picketing back in Riverside
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KESQ reports this morning....
http://www.kesq.com/news/26788458/detail.html
(same article as the one posted above which was also repeated in the Valley News http://myvalleynews.com/story/54270/ yesterday). *edit: KESQ article now updated
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Riverside Board of Supervisors meeting webcast page (live video/audio links at the top).
http://bosvideo.co.riverside.ca.us/pppo ... bcast.aspx

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AGENDA
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 08, 2011
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS – COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE

[...]

Policy Calendar

3.1 SUPERVISOR STONE: Adopt an Order Initiating an Amendment to Ordinance No. 884, an Ordinance Regulating Targeted Residential Picketing.

[...]

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 Post subject: Re: Ordinance 884, Residentia​l Picketing back in Riverside
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Just got a call from BF/RIF.

She's at the meeting and so is Mark Bunker. Mark almost got hawled away because Stone said he was off topic, and Mark kept talking. BF said he was great.

Bunker and the others are waiting now to speak again during public comments. Woo hoo. BF said it's great.

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 Post subject: Re: Ordinance 884, Residentia​l Picketing back in Riverside
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:08 pm 
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The ordinance was revised to change the distance to 3ft from the property line.

Julie, AO, and Bunker spoke.

There are reporters from the local papers, but the audience is pretty small.

Stone reiterated his belief that Anonymous is racist and bigoted.

Bunker spoke eloquently about Scientology, and why it's bad. Stone got upset, told him to stay on topic, and even called the guard to make him stop. Bunker refused.

Bunker and the others will speak again during the public comments at the end.

BF said she got video of most of it, and will post it when she gets back.

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 Post subject: Re: Ordinance 884, Residentia​l Picketing back in Riverside
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:12 pm 
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Anyone got a copy of the New Yorker there to give Jeff Stone?

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 Post subject: Wha about the Scientologists?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:19 pm 
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Did Scientologist Catherine Fraser or their lawyer Samuel Allhadeff speak?


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 Post subject: Re: Ordinance 884, Residentia​l Picketing back in Riverside
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:21 pm 
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Updated KESQ article:
Supervisors Tone Down Residential Picketing Rules
Same Supervisor Who Proposed Ordinance Proposed Losening Restrictions
POSTED: 8:02 am PST February 8, 2011
UPDATED: 11:02 am PST February 8, 2011

http://www.kesq.com/news/26788458/detail.html

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RIVERSIDE -- Riverside County supervisors voted to alter a measure that prohibited protesting from within 30 feet of a residential property on Tuesday.

Under the new rules, those picketing a residential property can come within three feet of the property line.

The board voted 4-0 for the proposed changes. Supervisor John Tavaglione stepped away from the dais and missed the vote.

Supervisor Jeff Stone, who first proposed the measure, said the change is a "worthwhile compromise" that will allow residents to protest the homes of registered sex offenders.

Supervisors first approved the ordinance in March 2009 following a request from Golden Era Productions, which is owned by the Church of Scientology. Small groups of protesters regularly target the Gilman Hot Springs campus.

Several residents spoke out against the church at the board meeting and urged supervisors to repeal the ordinance in its entirety.

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 Post subject: Re: It was never enforced
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:22 pm 
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AngryGayPope wrote:
Not only was it not enforced, once I had to stomp on under $400 worth of pansies just to get the police to show up at all there! It is probably worse now with so many cops laid off. There are even fewer officers available to not show up :)


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