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 Post subject: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:40 am 
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WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY

PLEASE SIGN THE WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE SCIENTOLOGY ABUSES, REQUEST EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO DO THE SAME, AND CROSS-POST THIS WHERE EVER YOU CAN.

The White House has just introduced “a new way to petition the Obama Administration to take action” on many issues. If a petition receives 5.000 signatures within 30 days “it will be reviewed by the Administration and an official response will be issued. And we’ll make sure that the petition is sent to the appropriate policy makers in the Administration.” Click on https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions

We believe that we can accumulate at least 5,000 signatures within 30 days: from Anonymous, Independent Scientologists, Free Zoners, former Church of Scientology members, “the old guard of critics,” concerned citizens and others.

Please help us do so by clicking on: Short URL: http://wh.gov/4Os and Save and Share this long URL: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/! ... government’s-failure-investigate-and-prosecute-church-scientology-crime-fraud-and-abuse/L27wg021

Follow up emails and letters to the White House would also assist. https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/contact

Since late 2008 a significant number of former Church of Scientology senior staff members and executives have provided information to the FBI as internal whistle blowers. There is good reason to believe that Church of Scientology leader David Miscavige has used well placed Washington lawyers to cause the Department of Justice to delay and disrupt the FBI’s investigation. In the past, Miscavige’s Washington lawyers have included Monique Yingling, Esq. and her husband Gerald Feffer, Esq. who recently retired but who was a senior partner at the leading Washington law firm of Williams & Connolly. Previously he was at the Department of Justice as an assistant deputy attorney general for tax matters.

The content of the petition is self explanatory. A number of people have contributed to the content. Please excuse the density. The White House imposes a 120 character limit on the title and a 800 character limit on the content of the petition itself.

“We petition the Obama Administration to …”

EXAMINE THE GOVERNMENT’S FAILURE TO INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY CRIME, FRAUD AND ABUSE.

WHEREAS, the FBI has 300+ recent complaints of Scientology crimes and atrocities - human trafficking, forced abortions and civil rights violations, and the IRS has evidence of private inurement violations justifying INTERMEDIATE SANCTIONS, and existing evidence on hand meets RICO statutes, WE REQUEST that the White House investigate and employ a Special Prosecutor to:

EXAMINE why, with such an abundance of RICO evidence of Scientology being a corrupt and criminal entity, no law enforcement agency has moved forward;

INVESTIGATE undue favor and pressure brought by lawyers for Scientology leader David Miscavige to stop the investigations;

EXAMINE why around the world the “church” is investigated as a criminal entity while the U.S. Government does nothing?

Short URL: http://wh.gov/4Os ; Save and Share this long URL: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/! ... government’s-failure-investigate-and-prosecute-church-scientology-crime-fraud-and-abuse/L27wg021

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 Post subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:25 am 
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If you are having trouble accessing the Scientology petition at the White House website we have found that this short URL works the best:

Short URL: http://wh.gov/4Os

Please use and distribute.

Thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:59 am 
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The White house accepts petitioners from all countries.
Someone just signed the petition from New Zealand (Auckland)
So please take a moment, it is a very fast sign up. even if you are
a non Us citizen.
You will be asked to get an account with the White House which takes 30 seconds !

http://wh.gov/4Os

I have befriended a heck of a lot of Law Enforcement over these last 2 years and I am sending
them an info copy so that they see it as well.

Just Emailed 42 info copies.....

If you have Law enforcement or media connections that would like to see it just out of interest please send on the above link. :kiss:

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 Post subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:38 pm 
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I would suppose some wonk in the White House has forgotten that non-Americans use the Internet.
The UK has had a petition system for a while now (limited to UK residents), though we don't take it too seriously. It was revamped by the present Government with a threshold required to trigger a response, though in the UK we have a year to sign as life is slower here. And yes, we've run several Scientology petitions.

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 Post subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:48 pm 
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The White House Petition to examine the Church of Scientology’s use of lawyers and others to interfere with the FBI’s investigation of Scientology crime, abuse, atrocities and other illegalities was posted mid Saturday evening (PST) and by mid Sunday morning (PST) it had attracted 100 signatures – not bad for such a slow time on most message boards.

If you have not yet signed the petition and circulated it to your contacts please do so as soon as you can because these things tend to grow exponentially, like a snowball, as awareness spreads and more and more people sign. After all, there are “more than 9,000” Anons, and many more former members, who could circulate it to people also willing to sign.

In that regard, if you are having trouble accessing the Scientology petition at the White House website we have found that this short URL works the best:

Short URL: http://wh.gov/4Os


Please use and distribute. Let’s not allow DM and OSA to win this one.

Thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:19 pm 
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A very extensive secretive FBI. Investigation has been going on for over two years ... secretive to try and minimize the Church of Scientology's infiltration of the Justice Department and the FBI. Many former INT Base and other staffers, including former very top Scientology executives, were interviewed for many days.

The FBI Special Agents appeared enthusiastic and determined. Then David Miscavige set his lawyers upon the senior members of the Department of Justice. One of his personal attorneys (Gerry Feffer, Esq) served as an assistant deputy attorney general for tax matters so he has had almost open door access to the DOJ. His wife, Carol Yingling. Esq., is also one of DM's attorneys and good friends. As a result, the FBI investigation has been delayed or even derailed. Meanwhile, the witnesses have been left out to dry and vulnerable to OSA retaliation.

The petition requests the White House to examine these delays and the apparent official corruption and obstruction of justice.

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 Post subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:31 pm 
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Thanks, Graham. Good work. Isn't it Monique Yingling? Recent Mike Rinder quote:
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She approves ALL IAS expenses. She oversees the IAS with an iron fist. It is the single most important thing to be protected in the Scientology structure (as it is the biggest cash cow and the biggest source of unencumbered money). She gets paid a LOT of money by the IAS. But more important she has specific orders from Dear Leader that she approves no IAS grant without his approval — thus he has a perfect “cutout”. He can say he does not directly authorize their expenses — Monique does it for him! And of course, she can never be forced to testify about this sort of “attorney-client” privileged communication. Dear Leader’s ornate sandcastle is very carefully constructed — only problem is that he forgot that the tdes of truth will wash it all away… Mike

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...When an attorney is not acting primarily as an attorney but, for instance, as a business advisor, member of the Board of Directors, or in another non-legal role, then the privilege generally does not apply.[4]
In the US, communications between accountants and their clients are usually not privileged. ... The mere fact that the practitioner is an attorney will not create a valid attorney-client privilege with respect to a communication, for example, that involves business or accounting advice rather than legal advice.
Footnote 4: North Pacifica, LLC v. City of Pacifica, 274 F.Supp.2d 1118, 1127 (N.D. Cal 2003); Handguards, Inc. v. Johnson & Johnson, 69 F.R.D. 451, 453 (N.D. Cal 1975). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawyer-client_privilege ).


So, if Yingling has a role primarily an accountant/financial adviser, she can be forced to testify about that, even if elsewhere she is giving pure legal advice.

From the thread Monique Yingling Oversees IAS with an "Iron Fist" at viewtopic.php?t=32796


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 Post subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG
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What part of IAS pays Yingling? IAS itself is a tangle headed by a near-vaporous thing.
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Footnote C3. International Association of Scientologists does not legally exist but its shares, held by CoS leaders, own 2 supporting companies, MSAL & IMSANV dba IASA. http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/c orporate/irs/1993-1023-csi-questions-2.pdf , Page 9-11 "IAS is not part of the Church of Scientology hierarchy. .. it is not a legal entity and... thus must rely on other entities:..Theta Management Limited... (Dissolved; see note C5)...Membership Services Administration Ltd.,...International Membership Services Administration, N.V."
from: http://www.xenufrance.net/csi-to-irs-an ... s-1991.pdf , page 6 . RTC's trademark claim on IAS website http://www.iasmembership.org/feature/le ... emark.html . IAS also uses Hubbard's writings in fund-raisers, so is under CST. CoS says IAS only "refers" to the trademarks and doesn't "use" them, http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents ... ions-2.pdf page 242, but this generosity would vanish if IAS became unfriendly to CoS. Not paying for the trademarks may be so IAS can avoid being a Scientology entity; the '93 IRS deal says every group licensed by CST and RTC is Scientology-related. Arcane ownership of IAS at page 255, same document.
...(Footnotes C4 and C5 describe IAS's two companies MSAL & IMSANV dba IASA) .
Footnote C6. U.S. IAS Members' Trust. US Scientologists join and and donate to this. Except for being in the '93 IRS deal, I can find no legal connection of USIASMT to other corps except that it uses the words Scientology, so is under RTC. It uses Hubbard's writings in fund-raisers, so it's under CST. It likely doesn't pay for the use of the copyrights and trademarks, but if it became unfriendly, its freebie privileges would be yanked. Because CoS requires all US Scientology public members to join USIAS, it is deeply linked with Church of Scientology International. Description at http://www.xenufrance.net/SUMMARY%20DES ... ATIONS.pdf

from CoS Organization Charts , viewtopic.php?f=9&t=31561

Above, I noted that Yingling is not protected by client-attorney privilege for her actions being a financial adviser telling IAS how to spend its money. Questions the FBI should ask her: Who or what in IAS (by which I mean IAS, USIAS, and other junior organizations) is paying Yingling? Does Yingling change her advice based on input from David Miscavige ? How many of her recommendations are writing, and how many are only verbal? Is Yingling given authority over IAS employees? Does that conflict with the religious rule that Sea Org members lead IAS? Is Yingling "advising" the overall IAS group, in other countries, too? If so, with what authority can she tell the Danish Association of Scientologists how to spend their money? Is the overall IAS income put in a single pot, or does each country or continent make its own decisions? Who are the people who own shares of IAS's two companies MSAL and IMSANV dba IASA? What is their role?

If Yingling does not want to answer these questions, claiming client-attorney privilege, the IRS should make her sign a document under penalty of perjury that she gives no CEO-type leadership, or financial, accounting, or spending advice to IAS, USIAS, and the other IAS-related companies, that all her work is related to specific legal cases, that she advises against any actions that would be extortion, like locking the doors at IAS fundraisers, and that she never approves, oversees or reviews illegal private investigator activities.

If she doesn't like signing that, making she should resign all Scientology work before her name is mud. IAS wants to be run by Sea Org, a "brotherhood,"and wants to be part of a "religion" which doesn't require filing annual accounting statement, but now this lawyer is running it. Without audited financial statements, how can the IRS ensure that Yingling is not "self-dealing" running IAS and paying herself huge fees? Is she doing religious work? No. Is she doing lawyer work? No, it's more like being a kind of CEO, providing financial management, and-or wrangling private investigators. Instead of double protection from "being a religion" and "client-attorney privilege," maybe each of the two "special protections" contaminates and (we hope) nullifies the other.


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 Post subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:41 pm 
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is there an effective way to sign this anonymously?


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 Post subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:54 pm 
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sconetale wrote:
is there an effective way to sign this anonymously?
It asks for a full name & email address which "We The People" will send updates. You can sign it anonymously, but you would have to create a dummy email account at Yahoo, Gmail, or one of the other email sites, and created a phony name. It's easy to do, but you have to create a dummy account.


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 Post subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:45 pm 
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I am trying to sign the petition but the Government is making it complicated to set up an account. Leave it to them to take a simple process and make it so complicated you have to have a Doctorate in Computer Science to sign a simple petition.

Also, Obama is a big enough schmuck that he could actually join the cult :) I'm not sure what is worse, Scientology or The Government!


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 Post subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:14 pm 
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After screwing with it for an hour, I was able to sign the petition


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 Post subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG
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BIG NEWS FOR THIS PETITION FROM MARTY RATHBUN:

Read the major revelations at : http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/

http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/ http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/

Thank you Marty for the invaluable assistance. :D

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 Post subject: Didn't we do this before?
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I'll sign whatever my lawyer says (as usual) but didn't we do this before?

The white house had a sort of census where they asked what were the top ten things they wanted the then new president Obama to do. Removing COS's income tax religious status got put high on that list by people on the net who put in their input. Nothing happened.


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 Post subject: Re: WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG
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Nevermind. Graham answered my question

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