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 Post subject: [WWP] Scientology Religiosity? (Research Packets & Dox)
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Greetings All!

Crossposted highlights from a new/active project I finally unleashed on the hivemind last week:
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/ ... dox.93988/

This series of fair use e-publications is for the sole purpose of referring people too, when the awkward question of "Is Scientology a Religion?" arises. Also - harpoon ammo... for reaching out to community leaders, religion studies majors and other bible thumpers who express an interest in seriously questioning the religious nature of Scientology.

AnonLover on WWP wrote:

Lots more introductory details included on the WWP thread above, as well as in the Materials Outline document (See Project Introduction & Publication Notes)

I've been working on harvesting leaks & compiling these publications for approximately 90 days. So far I got the first of at least 9 volumes released, with the others slated to follow w/ a new release every 2-3 weeks from now until the end of this year.

Enjoy!


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Scientology Religiosity? Volume I: God, Heaven, Hell & The Hope of Mankind

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On Scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/65916147/Scie ... y-Volume-I

Fileshare: http://www.mediafire.com/?1pfz99ocb5xidj5

Quotations only: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... YjRm&hl=en

Volume I Summary wrote:
This volume of the Scientology Religiosity? publication series has been compiled to serve as the introductory module for a larger body of materials, and covers some of the basic principles of Scientology when viewed from the perspective of being classified as a new religious movement. The enclosed subject matter reveals the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard and other promotional material from the Church of Scientology on common aspects of “salvation” that is adhered to by the more traditional faiths:

  • The existence of God,
  • The role of heaven and hell, and
  • The eternal hope of mankind in accordance with the Scientology tenets of faith.

Sections v1.01.001 through v1.01.005 provides a brief overview of how the major principles of the Scientology system of spiritual beliefs are commonly defined to the outside world and perceived internally. Subsection 006 covers a sampling of widely touted quotations from Scientology’s ideology that are widely held to be controversial, with additional passage segments to follow in later volumes of this series.

Sections v1.01.007 through v1.01.010 provides a look at the Scientology interpretation of heaven and hell, with insights into their methodologies for overcoming the limitations of human existence as defined within strictly internal-usage materials. While subsection 011 exposes a more detailed explanation of Scientology doctrines as portrayed to the general public.

Sections v1.01.012 through v1.01.018 offers a further look at the Scientology approach to religious salvation through the teachings and alternative counseling techniques of L. Ron Hubbard, which are organized into a dual path of training and psychotherapy processes known as “The Bridge.”

This volume concludes with a vintage statement of what Scientology disciples aim to achieve with their spiritual progress up “The Bridge” in section v1.01.019. Followed by a return to the modern day reality of how the public typically perceives the opposing claims of Hubbard’s doctrines being both a science and a religion through the personal experience of an investigative journalist.

Proper citations for all the source materials reprinted within this publication for educational purposes are indexed in the back matter under the “List of Scientology Illustrations” section. Additional recommended references for each subsection of the v1.01 materials is also included under the “Further Reading” section for a progressive continuation of studies on the topics covered herein.

Feedback, suggestions, discrepancies & other input on how to make this publication better in later editions is welcome here, or in the original WWP project thread where we are keeping opinions/debate on the actual materials & subject matter separate from ongoing compilation & publication efforts.

And altho I personally dont have an opinion/debate or topical angle that I care to discuss my own views on, at this time (until the series is complete)... I'm interested to see what the more studious regulars over here have to say. So TIA for your comments & feedback!!


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Thank you very much AnonLover for assembling this information. What a talent you have for organizing data! This Religiosity Project is important, timely and greatly appreciated.

This 1951 lecture transcript may warrant inclusion for its background claims, ideas about faith, control, and discussion about how the eighth dynamic was to be addressed or "rehabilitated." [Definitions: Dynamics]

L. Ron Hubbard wrote:
Now, as far as dynamic seven is concerned, you can draw yourself a great, big question mark as to just what. But you will find that the seventh is aberrated, badly. As an auditor you should know this, very definitely—how badly the seventh dynamic can be aberrated. Every few preclears, you are going to get hold of one who has monkeyed around with spiritualism, mysticism, yoga, Hinduism and all the rest of it, right down the line. And self-confidence in handling the seventh dynamic depends on not having tampered with it. That is a fact.

Look at the gorgeous louse-up that this dynamic can occasion. Let us take an individual who takes up Rosicrucianism when he is fifteen years of age. He is sent a little folder and it tells him that he should sit in a dark closet, gazing at a lighted candle for fifteen minutes every day, until he finally sees something. And believe me, he will eventually see something. If he can just get relaxed enough, one of these counter-efforts will hit him—bong! Now is he convinced! Of course, it was probably Mama’s broom handle or something of the sort, but it is much easier to assign this to a spirit world, and he says, “Gee, there’s something here—maybe.” And there is where the seventh dynamic starts
falling to pieces: on that confounded maybe.

Now, let’s look at this. This boy is saying, “Do I have any affinity with something that has gone beyond, or with spiritual guidance? Do I? Well, do they have any for me? Well, I can’t nail that down, but I have a feeling like there’s something there. Do I agree with anything that this spiritual guidance is trying to do or not? Or is it there to agree with? Does it exist? Is there any reality to it? Well, I don’t know. Now, can I talk to spirits or can’t I?

And if I talk to them, do they listen?” A-R-C—question mark, question mark, question mark. Is there any A, is there any R. is there any C on it?

And that is how a fellow gets himself into a beautiful state on the seventh dynamic. He just gets himself completely loused up if he keeps this up.

I speak with a great deal of experience. I know lots of people in various parts of the world, men who are very holy—who demonstrate it—an d there is no accounting for the things that these individuals can do. I have seen the poltergeist phenomena. Very interesting—matter moves without being touched. Fascinating. I know people that started in telling fortunes and were excellent at it, just expert, and in about a year or so they were all off the groove on the subject of telling fortunes. I know people that have followed and studied magic, mysticism and so on as philosophies, and I know that every single one of them started out in pretty good shape and wound up in horrible shape.

I studied this off and on, I guess, for about five years in my life, because it is the most beautiful field in which to find phenomena. And can you find some choice and lovely phenomena! But if you can’t get the phenomena and bring it back to MEST and pin it down in its association with MEST, it is just a blur and you get worse and worse and worse on it.

I am telling you all this, not autobiographically, but so you can appreciate some of these people when you run into them.

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As far as the eighth dynamic is concerned, you will find that your preclears have an enormous number of aberrations on the eighth dynamic. In various parts of the world you will find that almost any manifestation of the deity has been brought forward as the manifestation. There are terrific arguments amongst cults. Does God exist or doesn’t he exist? And the ARC situation obtains there.

A little child gets into this kind of a state, and almost any child in this society has gotten into this kind of a state: “Does God love me? Do I love God? Is he there? Does he listen to my prayers? Do I receive any messages from him? Where is he? He’s everyplace. Well, that’s not possible—but he is.”

This, fed to a little child, is ARC across the field. A little child has stability enough to stand up to the conclusions he makes. But let him get beaten around by life, and sitting back there are these conclusions, just ready to fix him some day.

This has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with a society which is on a very low band of the tone scale. It is just the fact that a society, when it tries to teach, enforces or inhibits. It doesn’t try to give anybody data and let him make up his own mind; it does it on the basis of “you’ve got to!”

This applies on the third dynamic and the second dynamic and the first dynamic, as well as the eighth, so it isn’t anything peculiar to religion. It is just the fact that this fellow has been given an enforced setup on something which is relatively indefinite, because the eighth dynamic is faith. It is not even knowledge, and it is certainly not ARC or understanding. It is faith; it is a static, and in a complete static there is no understanding. The individual is taught “You have to understand things in life,” so he goes ahead and tries to understand the eighth dynamic. But you can’t understand the eighth— that is faith! You accept it. You don’t try to wonder about it.

You will find some peasant over in the middle of France who is probably very, very happy about God, who has never thought for a moment “Is he there or isn’t he there?” or anything. He is very happy; he has faith on the subject. And you will find some learned scholar, grinding away at his books—like Spinoza: l study, study, suppose, postulate, think, think, think, think; spin, spin, spin, spin; think, spin, spin. No faith!
Faith, however, is an automatic proposition, and the reason a person tries to think on the subject is that people try to use it as a control mechanism. And what this individual is trying to do is understand what is trying to control him in his own race—and he blames it on God.

People are trying to control his actions and cut down his self-determinism by using the threat and potential of God. He gets upset on this subject so he bypasses trying to understand, because he didn’t understand what people were trying to do to him. He turns around and starts “understanding” on the subject of a Supreme Being—but he can’t do it! And the second he does, he will spin [Definition: spinning].

The way you undo it is find out who was trying to control him with the eighth dynamic. What human being was trying to control him with the eighth dynamic? What human beings were associated with him on the subject of the eighth dynamic? Unburden his contest and conclusions with regard to these human beings and all of a sudden the eighth dynamic will go right on up and be in beautiful shape.

There was a very interesting officer who sailed with Columbus. He was a dashing fellow; he did very dangerous things continually. One time Queen Isabella was sitting on the top of a turret and she was bored, so this fellow said, “Oh, you’re bored, Your Highness?” And he stepped over the edge of the parapet onto a beam about six inches wide and about three hundred feet above the ground, that was sticking out about twelve feet. He just walked it, turned around in a circle on the end of it—he was not any kind of a ballet dancer or anything—and walked back. Queen Isabella had fainted!

Anyhow, this officer had a little picture of the Virgin Mary, and he always carried this picture of the Virgin Mary.

One of the caciques [Wikipedia: cacique] in Haiti was raising a lot of hubbub up in the hills and a big revolution was going to take place and so on. The officer heard that this cacique was making trouble and that the people in the garrison were worried about it, so he went up into the hills all by himself one night and walked into the camp of about four thousand natives. He tapped this cacique on the shoulder and said, “You come with me.” “Oh, no. No, no.”

“Well, you’re just going to have to.” So the officer picked him up and carried him out of the camp and took him back down to the stockade! Nobody even shot at him. Two or three years later we find this officer conducting an expedition on his own. He sailed the Atlantic. Knowing nothing about seamanship or anything else, he sailed the Atlantic and explored the coast of Cuba and there he set up a colony. We don’t hear of these wildcat adventures that went on during Columbus’s expedition because he squashed them.

If you had asked this fellow how he stood on the subject of the eighth dynamic—the Supreme Being—he would have looked at you very blankly. He would have said, “Why, the Virgin Mary takes care of me; I get along all right. I don’t have to be afraid of anything. I don’t know what you’re talking about, because nothing can happen to me—nothing!” And he acted that way. And to the end of this man’s career, nothing ever disturbed this. He did the most fantastic things imaginable.

This fellow was running on pure faith. It certainly wasn’t a manic because this man’s accomplishments were very rational.

But there is faith as it can be used. The reason why it keeps coming downhill (this is very simple) is that people try to control others with it.

This is awfully important, because a large percentage of the individuals who are neurotic or insane are neurotic or insane because of this eighth dynamic louse-up. So you can put that down as important.

If you take a look at the Minnesota Multiphasic as an intelligence test, you will find that an enormous number of its questions apply to religious aberration. And you will find out that the people who got that together took it empirically from insane asylums. This was not somebody’s figure-out; this was all the kinds of questions that they assembled and found as the most common points of trouble. You will find that maybe 30, 40 or 50 percent of the insane are insane mainly because of the eighth dynamic. They have been controlled on the subject of the eighth dynamic till you find them in continual attitudes of prayer and so on. How do you rehabilitate this? First, you probably have to reorient an individual with regard to other people—just anybody. Get him in contact with other people, and then finally carve it down to a point where you undo the efforts of other people to control him through a warping of the eighth dynamic.

So you are not throwing the eighth dynamic in question. You are not paying any attention to the eighth dynamic, actually, to do this; you are just picking up the aberration. You don’t try to convince a person about the eighth dynamic any more than on the third dynamic you would sit and convince the fellow that he had to be friendly with groups. You give no sales argument. What you are doing is trying to pick up the control factors: When have groups controlled him? When has he concluded he had to be controlled by groups? And that resolves the eighth dynamic for him.

Hubbard, L. R. (1951, 23 October). Self-Determinism on the Dynamics. The Foundation Auditors Course. Lecture conducted from Wichita, Kansas.

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 Post subject: Re: [WWP] Scientology Religiosity? (Research Packets & Dox)
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Thanks for putting in Dox, my writing that, according to The Golden Bough, Scientology is Me-the-Magician-Magic and not Religion.


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caroline wrote:
This 1951 lecture transcript may warrant inclusion for its background claims, ideas about faith, control, and discussion about how the eighth dynamic was to be addressed or "rehabilitated." [Definitions: Dynamics]

Nice - i like that! dually noted for future use.

Don Carlo wrote:
Thanks for putting in Dox, my writing that, according to The Golden Bough, Scientology is Me-the-Magician-Magic and not Religion.

thank you - great stuff in that thread that will possibly factor into one of the later volumes where i got Advance Magazine "spiritual history of man" articles in the same Golden Bough mythology theme.

also - i suspect there's other great research threads up in here that overlap with some more of the themes i plan on hitting in the series,

but I havent had a chance to do an all encompassing search for stuff yet over here. but if anybody happens to recall good candidates i should look at that seemingly jive well with the stuff listed in the "Topical / Subject Matter Index" in my project outline document, please by all means give me a headsup / link to it ITT. (and TIA!)


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The question many governments ask is "Is Scientology a charity that benefits the entire community?" because they don't want to pick and choose what's a "real religion." Salvation Army? Flunk for wearing uniforms. Buddhist? Flunk for no deity. Jehovah's Witness? Flunk for no ministers. In the US, groups just claim to be a religion and, once they are approved as 501(c)3 charities, get special privileges, like not having to file a Form 990, the usual financial statement form that charities must file. If the Flying Spaghetti Monster fans did charitable actions, and filed for charitable status, they could theoretically approved as a charity, and since they believe in a supernatural something, they could get treated as a religion, too. The bar is that low.


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Government isnt the audience we are targeting with these publications.


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Amusingly, CoS's OT-level belief in Xenu are hidden; Hindu reincarnation is one of the few beliefs openly taught. Kooky fantasy is a feature of many religions, so the Xenu story at least puts CoS amidst them for denying science, logic and known historical fact.

The Golden Bough and others pointed out that Buddhism borrowed reincarnation from early Hindu religion; Buddha did not invent it, although he did invent the more compassionate, spiritual-not-ritualistic, and even skeptical aspects of Buddhism. However, CoS loves to say it believes in reincarnation just like Buddhism. CoS never compares its own elaborate auditing and management rituals to Hinduism's exotic rituals. CoS also never compares its centralized and arrogant power to Hinduism's ancient ultra-powerful Brahmin priests. CoS never compares its avoidance and disconnection of critics, to ancient Hinduism's intense tribalism. It never compares its belief in a Scientologist being a higher being, "homo novis," to ancient Hinduism's belief in a stratified society with Brahmins at the top. There are all kinds of religious comparisons that CoS could be making, in addition to a vague belief in "the infinite."

Thanks to India's competing religions, literacy, high achievements in science, and an elected government, today's Hindus can't be ruled by Brahmin priests like the ancient past. Like Hinduism, CoS should reform in the face of competing religion like Marty Rathbun's group or Freezone. Literate and scientific opinions now are accessible to any CoS member with an Internet connection, even on an I-Phone. CoS has manipulated governments before but may not keep up the charade. With these new pressures, CoS should evolve if it's smart, like Hinduism has done, but CoS appears to value iron control and short-term money-making over long-term survival. Stay tuned.


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Excellent work so far!

It is SO annoying when 'religious experts' claim they can't find stuff when all they have done is check their own academic publications and boxes of free Church propaganda. As bad in its own way as the journalists who look in newspaper archives for Chanology Anonymous, find nothing post 2008 and assume it has disbanded.

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Volume II http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/scientology-religiosity-research-packets-dox.93988/#post-1896489

Here are a couple more about the law:

Hubbard wrote:
Our lines are too powerful and direct and what we mean to a person’s future, even while he or she is nattering, is so well understood down deep that ethics action is a far worse threat than mere wog law.

The being who is guilty knows with certainty that he is offending against the future of all, no matter what his surface manifestations or conduct. Further, while wog law at the worst can only cause him or her some pain and a body by execution or one lifetime’s loss of liberty, we threaten his eternity.

Hubbard, L. (1965, 25 April) Ethics Review. Organization Executive Course (1991 ed., Vol. 1, pp. 744-8). Los Angeles: Bridge Publications, Inc.


Hubbard wrote:
The enturbulence of the society around us is fantastic. There is no just civil law left, really. It is that lawless and disorderly condition in the society about us which makes it hard for us to work. Shortly we will be even more powerful. That power must not be lawless or we will have anarchy and dismay, enough to stop our growth.

If we have a superior law code and legal system which gives real justice to people, we will simply flow easily over the society and everybody will win. Where we fail to apply our own administration, technology and justice procedures to the society around us (let alone Scientology), we will fail.

[...]

Don't react to Scientology justice as though it were wog law. In society's courts" one is given the works, and truth has little bearing on the findings. A mean judge or clever attorney and small legal errors decide a lot of their cases. Wog courts are like throwing dice. There is huge cost and publicity and punishment galore even for the innocent.

Hubbard, L. (1965, 27 March) The Justice of Scientology Its Use and Purpose Being A Scientologist. Organization Executive Course (1991 ed., Vol. 1, pp. 939-41). Los Angeles: Bridge Publications, Inc.

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^^Nice... thx Caroline!


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AnonLover wrote:
^^Nice... thx Caroline!


Glad to help, AnonLover. :D

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“Churches are looked upon as reform groups. Therefore we must act like a reform group.”

- L. Ron Hubbard, 1966, According to Jon Atack's The total freedom trap


Source is HCOPL 25 Feb 1966 Attacks on Scientology Additional Pol Letter, full text included in the Foster Report.

This policy letter was included in the GO's Intelligence Course, "Information Full Hat," although the checksheet didn't list it by exact title.

Hubbard wrote:
HOW TO STOP ATTACKS

The way we will eventually stop all attacks from there on out is by processing the society as follows:

(1) Locate a source of attack on us.

(2) Investigate it.

(3) Expose it with wide lurid publicity.

You see the same thing in a preclear. He has a rotten spot in his behaviour. He attacks the practitioner. The spot is located on a meter. It blows and the preclear relaxes.

Well this is just what is happening in the society. We are a practitioner to the society. It has rotten spots in it. Those show up in attacks an us. We investigate and expose - the attack ceases.

We use investigators instead of E-Meters. We use newspapers instead of auditor reports. But it's the same problem exactly.

So long as we neglect our role as auditor-to-the-society we will be attacked.

Society is pretty crazy. It's a raw jungle. So it will take a lot of work. We must be willing to put in that work as a group or we'll be knocked about.

Remember, CHURCHES ARE LOOKED UPON AS REFORM GROUPS.

Therefore we must act like a reform group.

The way to seize the initiative is to use our own professionals to investigate intensively parts of the society that may attack us. Get an ammunition locker full. Be sure of our facts. And then expose via the press.

If we do this right, press, instead of trying to invent reasons to attack us will start hanging around waiting for our next lurid scoop.

We must convert from an attacked group to a reform group that attacks rotten spots in the society. We should not limit ourselves to mental healing or own line. We should look for groups to investigate and blow the lid off and become known as a mighty reform group. We object to slavery, oppression, torture, murder, perversion, crime, political sin and anything that makes Man unfree.

The only error we can make is disperse our investigation. We do a preliminary look, then we must select a target and investigate it until we have the cold facts and then BANG, fire the salvo.

Don't worry about libel if our facts indicate rottenness. The last thing that target will do is sue as then we would have a chance to prove it in court, which they are terrified of our doing.

Remember - the only reason we are in trouble with the press or government is that we are not searching out and exposing rotten spots in the society. We must practice on the whole group called society. If we do not it will attack us just as preclear will attack a Scientologist that won't audit him.

To get wholly over to cause we must select targets, investigate and expose before they attack us.

We have at this writing a long way to go. But we might as well start somewhere. Begin by investigating any attacking group, find and expose the dead bodies. Then work on to our selecting the targets.

And that will handle it all.

L. RON HUBBARD


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Hubbard College of Scientology (1967). Scientology and the Bible: A Manifest Paralleling the Discoveries of L. Ron Hubbard with the Holy Scriptures. [Pamphlet, 64 pages.] Brighton: The Southern Publishing Company.

Would this help in the "rescue" effort? :lol:

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Heh... ^^That is the leak, that inspired the whole project.

It pissed me off so bad, I launched a retrospective reckoning over it :)

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/ ... 967.88482/

leak: http://www.mediafire.com/?qzh6z5mo4c7gbuu

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AnonLover wrote:
Heh... ^^That is the leak, that inspired the whole project.

It pissed me off so bad, I launched a retrospective reckoning over it :)

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/ ... 967.88482/

leak: http://www.mediafire.com/?qzh6z5mo4c7gbuu

Hell hath no fury like an anony christfag with a major chip on her shoulder.


Some would say that Scientology can help you with that. :lol:

The "Old Man" image on the cover is interesting in a "religious" or psycho-philosophical sense. From what I've experienced, I think Hubbard liked being called the "Old Man," and his Sea Org insiders referred to him in this way among themselves. I have no doubt this is the same "Old Man" on other basic books, particularly the various editions of Introduction to Scientology Ethics, where the "Old Man" is the judge-authority, "Source," etc.

Cf. The Old Man in Rosicrucian symbology. (E.g. Hall, M. P., & Knapp, J. A. (1975). The secret teachings of all ages: An encyclopedic outline of Masonic, Hermetic, Qabbalistic, and Rosicrucian symbolical philosophy : being an interpretation of the secret teachings concealed within the rituals, allegories, and mysteries of all ages. Los Angeles: Philosophical Research Society. )

Hubbard also used the term "old man" in lectures in reference to certain authority figures in his own life. For example, "Old Doc Pottenger," whom we know Hubbard and Heinlein both regged for support for their cold war scientists project. (Heinlein archives: CORR 220-2. Heinlein letter of 20 January 1946, "Dear Father Pottenger.") Dr. Pottenger had earlier treated Heinlein for tuberculosis, and also treated Leslyn Heinlein. (Heinlein archives: ANNA201a-09)

Hubbard wrote:
Now, we take medicine today. The general practitioner is getting so rare that they even write full feature-length stories about him in Look magazine. He's getting this rare. One he found was found to exist in the middle of New York City and they wrote this whole article about him. Old Doctor Pottenger, the very great old man of tuberculosis, who has startled the medical profession many, many times by simply going up to somebody and putting his hand on the fellow's chest and saying, "Oh, my, two spots!" and so forth. Unassisted by x-rays or anything else, diagnosed it. By the way, they put - this was - got to be such a hot point in the medical profession, they put up twenty-five people with or without and with varying degrees of tuberculosis on a stage before a medical conference and old Doc Pottenger went down the whole line, simply put his hands on their chests, one after the other, and diagnosed exactly - corroborated by x-rays - and exceeding x-rays to this degree: he wrote down the length of time each one of the people had left, you see, if he had tuberculosis. And his prognostication of two of the cases was exactly accurate, whereas all other prognostications were wrong on it. In other words, he was doing a better job simply by touching their chests. This old man said to me one time - I knew him, he was a nice guy - he said to me one time, he said: "The trouble with the medical profession today is specialization." He said, "It's all I can do," he said, "to put up with this ridiculous position in which I find myself of being an expert and a specialist in tuberculosis." The old man could whittle up tibias and carve out appendixes and cure sinusitis and do a lot of other things, you see, but the public pressure on the subject of tuberculosis simply kept him anchored in that particular field.

Hubbard, L. (1954, 17 December). History and Development of Processes: Games and the Limitations In Games. Ninth Advanced Clinical Course, (5412C17). Lecture conducted from Phoenix, Arizona.


Note also Hubbard's Ole Doc Methuselah, where he used the term literally, referring to an ancient "Soldier of Light" medical doctor.

The "Old Man" expression is, of course, a common enough English idiom referring to authority or command in other contexts such as in a corporation or the military.

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