I am not any kind of "buddy" with Gerry Armstrong. I don't know him. I don't know very much about him. I don't always agree with him. He is not my "guru". I don't think he is perfect in every way, or indeed in any particular way. Ditto for caroline. (Does this satisfy you? Thought not.)
Thank you for clarifying this. I accept what you're saying.
I have not come after you Dorothy. I have simply tried to defend myself from your smearing (Top Gun OSA candidate, sec-checker, hangman, executor [sic]), and to draw attention to the way you smear other people.
OW sometimes I call things as I see them. Maybe you could try and reread this thread and think about what Caroline is doing and how it makes the people who she is attacking, feel. How would you like it if someone accused you (wrongly) of being a part of an ongoing campaign to Fair Game them and ruin their life utterly and completely (the sick war against Gerry)? How come you don't speak up about that? Not a peep? I dk Karen and will never meet her either. But I can understand how she must feel by repetitively being told she's lying. Caroline's attack against me was even worse than that. Not a peep from you about that
, yet you can cry because "I'm smearing you". Please take a good look at who accused who first. You seem to fail to understand the underlying issues here that are being debated. How is that? If you genuinely do not see what the underlying issues are and how all this got started, how can I debate you? It becomes impossible.
I accept that you're not coming after me. I do think you assisted
in a campaign (caroline's
campaign) to smear Karen, though. I still think that, based on your quotes. I think you did this whether you did it intentionally or not, I cannot say. That is not s smear but a statement of fact, as I see the facts
. If you disagree with that analysis, hey free speech and all- you're opinion is welcome! Just say, I disagree, and why
I take back the "Top Gun OSA candidate, sec-checker, hangman, executor" hyperbole. The hangman and sec-checker comments do apply to caroline, though and you appeared to be with her 100%, to me
. I do not take that part back. You have not disagreed with one thing caroline has said or done, so I would have no way of knowing that you have any disagreements with Gerry/caroline, would I? Maybe you could enlighten me a bit more on what it is that you do disagree with them on? You seem to have a set of double standards, ie, it's okay if caroline smears, but not ok when others do it?
I'm not trying to smear you. Can you accept that? I'm trying to thrash out what's really going on with you, which hasn't been easy. As I said, straightforwardness would go a long way. It sounds like you are beginning to get it. I'm listening to you now. Please continue.
I'm going to be more careful with how I address you from now on.