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 Post subject: SQB Allender's new video on Marty Rathbun..
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:34 am 
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More of the same blah... blah.. blah.. on Marty being a dangerous psychotic. LOL. The narrator refers to his "small Texas cult." Inasmuch this video is an OSA op against Marty, MR only has himself to blame for giving John Allender the ammunition to make his claims regardless of their absurdity..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PZG_7V4RdB8#!


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 Post subject: Video is unlisted ... why
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:59 am 
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Why is the vid unlisted? Meanwhile I love watching Gold Base pour time and effort into these overproduced bits of meaninglessness...


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 Post subject: Re: SQB Allender's new video on Marty Rathbun..
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:16 am 
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there is comedy gold in this moronic feud.


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 Post subject: Re: SQB Allender's new video on Marty Rathbun..
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:01 am 
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The narrator has Miscavige's style of speech down very nicely.
I like the 'actual firsthand accounts' read by actors with no actual names mentioned.Very credible!
And of course,no comments or ratings-great to see CoS embracing freedom of speech as usual!


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 Post subject: Re: SQB Allender's new video on Marty Rathbun..
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:08 am 
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Look at the cult calling the other guy's group a cult.

In the video the term "psychopath" is used. This is a psychiatric term. Is $cientology endorsing psychiatry by using a psychiatric term or are they using it as a "button." In either case whoever was involved in putting this video together should get a handle on understanding the word. Looking it up in the dictionary is not enough. They need to read at least one of the books on it.

The Sociopath Next Door is a good book on the subject.

Actually, the makers should also really make an effort to understand what is meant by "cult" in the sense that most participants on this message board use it. Again they need to read a book, not just look it up in the dictionary.

For that I recommend, Captive Hearts Captive Minds.

For the $cientology organization to spend the time, low wage labor and money on this video indicates that the management (youknowwho) sees Marty and company as a very serious threat.

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 Post subject: Re: Video is unlisted ... why
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:56 pm 
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Why is the vid unlisted?


This ain't for the general public. It's for folks still in Scn. I'm guessing that they're realizing that Scn public and staff aren't staying off the 'net anymore, and that this is an attempt to "handle" that situation. We (critics) think of course that it's over-the-top ridiculous; Someone new to the scene would find it curious at the very least, and likely distrust it. In the past, a Scn public/staff would take it at face value, but recently, and certainly since the Debbie Cook bombshell, I'm guessing it ain't gonna fly.

It reeks of desperation. Ain't it cool....

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Meanwhile I love watching Gold Base pour time and effort into these overproduced bits of meaninglessness...


Rearranging the deck chairs while the inadequate lifeboats fill up. Fun to watch....


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 Post subject: Re: SQB Allender's new video on Marty Rathbun..
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:00 pm 
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Oh yay, the youtubed version of Religious Freedom Watch. :roll:

(And what's with the "Rath-BONE" pronunciation? Is that supposed to be particularly insulting?)


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 Post subject: Re: SQB Allender's new video on Marty Rathbun..
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:23 pm 
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These videos, from both sides, nicely demonstrate Hubbard's legacy. He left behind nothing of spiritual value. Neither side has enough spiritual wisdom to rise above the other. Good to see Marty lashing out. All that crap about "the great middle path." Just a bunch of words.
All that crap about eliminating the "reactive mind." LMAO.
What kind of "religion" makes a mudslinging, political-style video? It is a group that it is totally dependent on the machinations of man, one completely devoid of spirituality.


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 Post subject: Re: SQB Allender's new video on Marty Rathbun..
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:24 pm 
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The real issue is the cult is putting forth more proof they would put a bunch of production value into a YouTube video in an attempt to discredit these guys showing once again FairGame is alive and well, and the Cult will relentlessly character assassinate anyone who publicly attempts to expose the Cult's crimes.

As they always do, the cult disabled the comments because this is a group of anti-American's who hate Freedom of Speech.

I can also pretty much guaranty you "the Pope of $cientology" had a direct hand in the creation of this dirty tricks video.

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 Post subject: Re: Video is unlisted ... why
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:03 pm 
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Django wrote:
AngryGayPope wrote:
Why is the vid unlisted?


This ain't for the general public. It's for folks still in Scn. I'm guessing that they're realizing that Scn public and staff aren't staying off the 'net anymore, and that this is an attempt to "handle" that situation. We (critics) think of course that it's over-the-top ridiculous; Someone new to the scene would find it curious at the very least, and likely distrust it. In the past, a Scn public/staff would take it at face value, but recently, and certainly since the Debbie Cook bombshell, I'm guessing it ain't gonna fly.

It reeks of desperation. Ain't it cool....

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Meanwhile I love watching Gold Base pour time and effort into these overproduced bits of meaninglessness...


Rearranging the deck chairs while the inadequate lifeboats fill up. Fun to watch....


Just think if someone were to mirror the video, make it public, with comments and ratings open.

The general impression one gets after seeing these kind of DA videos is: "And this is is supposed to be a church of a 'religion'?! wtf?".

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 Post subject: Re: SQB Allender's new video on Marty Rathbun..
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These videos make it obvious that this cult is deficient in many areas including but not limited to spirituality, ethics, and understanding.


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 Post subject: Re: Video is unlisted ... why
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:25 pm 
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Django wrote:
AngryGayPope wrote:
Why is the vid unlisted?
This ain't for the general public. It's for folks still in Scn. I'm guessing that they're realizing that Scn public and staff aren't staying off the 'net anymore, and that this is an attempt to "handle" that situation.
You're incorrect. OSA knows that anyone in the public arena that hears of, or reads about Marty Rathbun in various news articles, will Google search his name and find links to John Allender's blog where the video can be found, or be linked to the YouTube video that the public can access freely. If it was to be an eyes-only video, it would have been designated as private.

You have to remember that OSA does not always pull pranks in the open. Much of what they do is covert, and in the age of mass media & the Internet, they've learned to adapt & pull shit under the wire.. instead of mass marketing their stupid videos, they place them on individual's blogs, which leaves the public (ignorant of the crap Scientology/OSA plays & has played in the past) believing that the video is not a cult-driven attempt to slime Marty, but one of concerned citizens.

It also plays into the hands of "The YouTube Team". If Marty files a complaint that the video violates their TOS by defaming him, the cult can always claim it was not aired for public consumption, but was "unlisted" for a reason.

If this video was truly intended to be private, and for Scilon-eyes only, it would not have been made available on public blogs, nor would you have been able to access it directly on YT. Chalk it up to OSA's being clever..


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 Post subject: Re: SQB Allender's new video on Marty Rathbun..
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:37 am 
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The video is offered at http://www.http.whoismartyrathbun.com, which is at the first page of a Google search on Marty Rathbun. So much for "unlisted". :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: SQB Allender's new video on Marty Rathbun..
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:28 am 
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Peter Schilte wrote:
The video is offered at http://www.http.whoismartyrathbun.com, which is at the first page of a Google search on Marty Rathbun. So much for "unlisted".
Aren't the links on the first page of a Google search attributed to the number of hits on that website? If so, then alot of critics and Scilons are accessing the blog.


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 Post subject: Re: SQB Allender's new video on Marty Rathbun..
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The point that resonates with me that others have said here is the What Kind of Religion Does This? assessment.

It really is not only a proof of Fair Game, but the answer to the question that a lot of protestors are asked which is, "What makes Scientology worse than other religions?"

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