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 Post subject: Re: CoS claims deity status when it revokes "eternity"
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:46 am 
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Thanks, cleared bank. Are the audit rooms themselves decorated? Or are they humdrum small rooms?


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 Post subject: Re: CoS claims deity status when it revokes "eternity"
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:11 pm 
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Auditing can take place anywhere, where there's a reasonable expectation of privacy. For dianetics or self-analysis- no meter involved- the great outdoors works just fine.

My recollection of the average auditing room was that they were fairly bland and utilitarian, and very small. Cell-like small. Think desk, two chairs, and a small bookcase for basic scn reference books and dictionaries, and just enough room for the pc to walk around the desk to get to his/her chair. (The auditor's back was to the door- aka exit) Decorations were generally limited to the occasional photo on the wall- a beneficent LRH usually, or one of the Freewinds or St Hill- photos of that ilk. Keep in mind, the pc's eyes are mostly kept closed and when they not, they are looking at their auditor- not at the room. Some objects are scattered around- to run havingness afterwards.

Of course, not all auditing rooms are created equal. For example actions such as the 2D co-audit, there needs to be a large enough space for the spouse to sit behind, out of sight, of the person in the chair holding the cans. The larger the room, the more space there is to have bookcases, artwork (apparently only institutional LRH style), and other decorations.

Like real estate what matters is: Location. Location. Location. Flag, CC auditing rooms are overall more luxurious; nice wood, better paint jobs, etc. than are typically found in the run of the mill org. In scientology who you are also counts. I doubt too many celebrities have ever been audited in a closet.

ETA: It occurs to me I should point out a factor in the smallness of the typical auditing room. The auditor is expected to maintain total control of the session, and pc, at all times. Should the pc decide to leave on his/her own determinism, he/she will have to go through the auditor- who will be doing everything possible to keep the pc in place and in session. A small room works in the auditor's favor.


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 Post subject: Re: CoS claims deity status when it revokes "eternity"
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:53 pm 
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Thanks, cleared bank. So the typical audit room is cheaply built, cramped, and controlling. And this is the cornerstone of the so-called religion. Compare to this religious space, the labyrinth at Chartres Cathedral in France, free to anyone to walk in contemplation:
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 Post subject: Re: CoS claims deity status when it revokes "eternity"
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:30 pm 
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Don Carlo wrote:
Thanks, cleared bank. So the typical audit room is cheap, cramped, and controlling.


Have you seen the blueprints for the Super Power building over at Village Voice? The floors of auditing rooms resemble the inside of a bee-hive/honeycomb. Cramped and controlling, yes. Cheap? Not so much. Not these days, anyway. Ideal Orgs cost mega$$$$$$


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 Post subject: Re: CoS claims deity status when it revokes "eternity"
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:44 pm 
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I changed it to "cheaply built"


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 Post subject: Re: CoS claims deity status when it revokes "eternity"
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:33 am 
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The auditing rooms at the org I was at were lined with white Styrofoam insulation that was an inch to an inch and a half thick. The rooms were tiny. There was a card table in the room. The back of the auditor's chair touched the door and the back of the PC's chair touched the wall. To get to the PC's chair one had to crab walk sideways. Being in the room was like being inside a very large Styrofoam cup. There was a single suspended light bulb hanging above.

The rooms had no decoration at all. The auditor would run "havingness" with the command, "Look around here and find something you can have." And as a PC you'd look around and see that there was nothing you could have, which kind of sums up $cientology in its entirety.

One time I was going through this and feeling very frustrated. The command gets repeated over and over and with a room with nothing in it things to have become very scarce very quickly. Anyway at one point in frustration when the auditor said, "Look around here and find something you can have," I looked at him in the eye and defiantly said, "Your nose." He said, "Your needle's floating."

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 Post subject: Re: CoS claims deity status when it revokes "eternity"
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:03 pm 
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I was being generous (in my efforts to be fair) with my description and decorative nature of the average auditing room.

When it came time to run havingness the scarcity of desirable objects/art was very frustrating, and many a demo kit did double-duty. To the pc a demo kit seashell could represent a trip to the ocean. (Doesn't it go without saying to get very far in scientology a good imagination is required?) Often the only objects available were those on the desk (or card table) or something worn by the auditor. Like noses.

In light of the great push to turn the average org into the ideal org, it's been my impression that even the tiniest auditing room will have something to offer the pc to look at and admire, and maybe even want to have for him/herself, hence pictures of the Freewinds/St Hill.


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 Post subject: Re: CoS claims deity status when it revokes "eternity"
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:24 pm 
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In Big Blue the auditing rooms were tiny and Spartan because of lack of available space and lack of desire to spend money on decent furniture.

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 Post subject: Re: CoS claims deity status when it revokes "eternity"
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:25 pm 
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The auditing rooms at the org I was at were lined with white Styrofoam insulation that was an inch to an inch and a half thick. The rooms were tiny. There was a card table in the room. The back of the auditor's chair touched the door and the back of the PC's chair touched the wall. To get to the PC's chair one had to crab walk sideways. Being in the room was like being inside a very large Styrofoam cup. There was a single suspended light bulb hanging above.

Sounds like a place that really invites spiritual enlightenment, NOT!


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 Post subject: Re: CoS claims deity status when it revokes "eternity"
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:56 pm 
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The Celebrity Centre must have nicer auditing rooms and expensive discreet video cameras, but I bet the auditor's chair still guards the door.

It would have been fun if the Celebrity Centre or an Ideal org had tiled their floor to copy the Chartres labyrinth, but no, Scientology doesn't have labyrinths, since Ron didn't approve them.

A search at http://labyrinthlocator.com for California found over 300 labyrinths. Florida has about 100 and Texas has almost 200. Type in your state or large city at the locator and this weekend, journey* to get a free open-air or church-with-nice-windows spiritual buzz !

Image Peace Labyrinth, 3500 West Adams Blvd. Los Angeles, California 90018. I'm not promoting this group; it might be nice people, or it might be another high-demand group
http://www.peacelabyrinth.org/

*Call ahead about hours and access.


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 Post subject: Re: CoS claims deity status when it revokes "eternity"
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:24 pm 
Don Carlo wrote:
Interesting. Never really knew about any of this. Learn something new every day. Did LRH copy this concept also?


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 Post subject: Re: CoS claims deity status when it revokes "eternity"
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:37 am 
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Not that I know of, so it's "mixing practices" which CoS disapproves of. A CoS member who did a labyrinth feeling it was a spiritual exercise would have to confess and accept punishment.


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