Marty's gone from making fishing videos to making comparisons in American history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iRwU0hQrrpk

The Alamo is in San Antonio, TX, the home of Debbie & Wayne. Draw your own conclusions.

They have to be confident in themselves to post that video on Youtube, when they know the conclusion that will be drawn. I also wonder who was shooting the footage. Does that mean the Baumgartens invited them. I've heard Scns just sometimes show up on folks' doorstep when they want something.

Most Texans are misinformed about their History..
you know what they say,Whoever wins the war writes the History Books

Texas independence was more about Keeping slavery intact...
Mexico abolished it under Santa Anna

Texans kept thumbing their noses at the Santa Anna Government over the issue

Texas was a huge smuggling point into the lower united states...
Cotton and slavery were two money maker for the struggling Mexican territory of Texas
Jim Bowie a leader at the Alamo was a slave smuggler-so were a lot of those men at the Alamo

Mexico abolished slavery In Mexico and demanded the same of Texas..

slave owners in Texas were pissed over their slaves escaping to other Mexican territories
and being forbidden the trade of slaves..mostly men of southern sympathy
with large plantations..

Santa Anna's march into Texas was mostly to enforce antislavery laws of Mexico

a former President "John Quincy Adams" was absolutely 100% right when he said the Texas Revolution was about keeping slavery

Marty "Generic History Lesson" Is short on facts...

Probably Marty's wife. OK, students! Take your seat. Books open.. eyes front.. you will need to take notes <before you laugh your ass off>.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AMhetJOmcDg

sigh. there is quite a bit of truth in your history lesson, but it is always a matter of emphasis in these things, and your lesson is just tilted enough to make me log on.

When President Adams was in office the petitioning and lobbying that he received from the Texas territory came from slave owners, cotton plantation owners and land speculators. The land speculators brought in settlers.

But by the time the actual "revolution" started (1835) it was about the increasingly heavy hand of Santa Anna who ruled by decree. Typical settlers were affected by El Presidente's attempts to shut down the northern border to the USA including immigration and imports. Protestantism was technically against the law (enforced at the government's convenience). The taxes and treatment were more severe on the settlers in that territory than on the citizens of the countries to the south and north. This is what roused the average man to war. Not slavery. Of the names folks know, Houston, Austin and Bowie, Bowie was the shadiest. He did a lot of things. He did some slave smuggling, but that was not his stock and trade. Generally he was an adventurous opportunist. All three were interested in making names for themselves in what they imagined might be a new country.
Santa Anna marched to quell rebellions. That is what he did when he marched. It was not a police action to apprehend and punish slave owners or to specifically enforce the anti-slavery laws.

John Quincy Adams was one of our greatest presidents and statesmen. A visionary.
At the same time, the Texas Revolution was not all "about keeping slavery." Slavery was an issue, but not the main issue. So that interpretation of MexTex history is simplistic and off the mark.

so I watched about 30 seconds of Mike and Marty and turned it off. I hate seeing Marty in Texas. I know he'll never go away, but I wish he'd move his act somewhere else. fuck him and the horse he road in on.

Thanks for that. As a native Texan I always get exasperated with simplistic explanations of the state's history. The reasons behind the Texas colonists' fight for independence are very complex, but as you say, had little to do with slavery.

As a native New Yorker, I know very little about Alamo, although I saw the movie “Alamo”. School history classes were not my cup of tea, so I have nothing to say on this topic.

Marty uses catchy name, Alamo, to draw attention to himself. If the events were happening in CA, he, probably, would be using the term “Gold Rush”, in MA - “Salem“, etc. Pick you favorite historic event, and Marty will be there if needed.

Elwood, well, slavery was definitely part of it. Texas like many southern states has a terrible, shameful past when it comes to slavery, and treatment of non-whites. That is undeniable and shouldn't be forgotten.

John Sayles made a great film called Lone Star. It gets into race relations in Texas and even touches on the kind of one-sided curriculum that Texans like myself were taught in public schools until rather recently. The poster Triumph is correct to point out that Texans have been largely misinformed. Thankfully, these days, the kids in public school get various POVs on Texas history.

What is Marty's wog educational background to support his recitation and analysis of history?
I'm guessing high school at best.

DLRH, yes. It is galling to see those guys relating their petty situation to historical events. Nothing is off limits for those jokers. I think they were pretty buzzed in that video.

As my acting coach used to say: "It's a lot harder to act sober..."

Uhh.. before you post comments, DLRH, you really should do some research first before you post.. lest you come across as ignorant.

The Alamo is not "a catchy name" that Marty used to draw attention to himself. It's an actual historical site that he & Mike Rinder were standing in front of when they filmed the video. http://www.thealamo.org/main/index.php

Marty is closer to the truth than he understands. Sam Houston played the victim just like Marty and yes he fought a dictator but one who was no worse or less arrogant than he was. All in the name of stealing a part of Mexico, to be a ruler un to himself all the while promoting what a fighter for freedom he was.

It is clear to me that Marty is fighting to steal as much territory as he can from the COS just like Sam Houston stole land from Mexico. Like Huston, he has his own perverted ideas of governing, freedom and justice. Just because Santa Anna was a shithead was no reason for Houston to be one. The people of the territory had one oppressive leader replaced with another.

A lesson Marty could learn from Houston is this, after a lifetime of being a shithead he finally found himself in a strange place of refusing to support the confederate south. I looks to me that Sam made some major life changes in his final years. He decided finally not to support oppression and not be a slave to his past ideology.

Lesson for Marty? Free your mind and your ass will follow.

Sam Houston was a lifelong politician with a big ego. He wasn't Dr. Evil. He came into the Texas territory looking for the kind of glory and opportunity that is found in revolution and burgeoning nations. He wasn't a sinister thief or master oppressor. The Mexican government originally encouraged the settlers to come. Mexico wanted somebody to deal with the Apache and Comanche who were chasing off Mexican settlers. Santa Anna wasn't any worse then any dictator, and he did free a lot of slaves. He had a gigantic country to patrol. He had to deal with the spanish, the french, the texian, the indians plus the mexican factions who were against him.

new TX metaphors. please.

scientology is the toxic waste dump north of midland, east of roswell
anonymous is the marfa lights
marty is a cow patty

Marty's video reminds me of the old comedic movie Viva Max..starring Jonathan Winters & Peter Ustinov.. where a Mexican general crosses the U.S. border on horseback determined to retake the Alamo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viva_Max!