Debbie Cook Speaks 12/31/2011 - COS Sues Jan 2012

Wieber · **Joined:** Tue May 23, 2006 10:57 pm **Posts:** 8394

To those involved in $cientology who decided to sue Debbie Cook, you opened a great big can of worms when you did that. Deal with it.

:popcorn:

Sponge · **Posted:** Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:06 am

Don't forget: Media Reports
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=52452&start=75
Bring here to discuss by all means, but do check there. I wouldn't want you to miss anything.

Also, in your own way, don't forget to say good morning to David Miscavige for day two of the hearing.

I'mglib · **Joined:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:17 pm **Posts:** 4970

Wow, if you haven't watched this video, watch it NOW.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientolog ... he/1214690

Youtube version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... tn1PauZUYs

And this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_OBcq2Zry4

Sponge · **Posted:** Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:22 am

Yes I watched them. They are Tampabay Times videos of which the original media is here:
viewtopic.php?p=433286#p433286
and
viewtopic.php?p=433312#p433312
The second one having a big accompanying article.

I'mglib · **Joined:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:17 pm **Posts:** 4970

Aaaannd, the letter that Debbie Cook sent to Scientology about the lawsuit:

http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2012/P ... 020912.pdf

I'mglib · **Joined:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:17 pm **Posts:** 4970

And another comment from Jeff Hawkins:

Quote:

Jefferson Hawkins 11 minutes ago
Tony, excellent coverage. A few comments:

I don't think that Scientology properly understands that they've lost this round, regardless of the decision. Suppose they "win" and the judge upholds the gag order. Guess what, Scientology, she already talked. News flash.

They are panicked about one thing and one thing only - that current Scientologists will hear Debbie's story. So they had a two-fold strategy: 1) shut her up and 2) make sure Scientologists never hear her story through threats and Security Checks. Number one is already a fail. As for number 2, they may not realize that all of their threats are simply driving Scientologists to search the internet to a degree unprecedented in Scientology history. They'll tell the Org that they aren't looking, but they are.

Most Scientologists that I know are caring people, good people. If they were to hear Debbie's testimony, they would be outraged at the abuse that is being carried out in the name of their religion. They would be disgusted. Anyone with a shred of humanity would be disgusted. What many Scientologists don't realize - but are increasingly realizing - is that THEY DON'T NEED MANAGEMENT. Management needs them, they don't need management. If management were to disappear, Scientologists would be free to practice the subject as they see fit, without harassment, abuse, and all the cult trappings.

This has Scientology's leaders petrified. The storm is coming. More and more are speaking out. More and more are listening. Scientology's managment is hunkered in the basement, waiting for the tornado to blow over and hoping the house will still be standing when they emerge. I wouldn't count on it.

Sponge · **Posted:** Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:40 pm

Day 2
Let the games begin, again....
Media Reports: viewtopic.php?p=433399#p433399

Sponge · **Posted:** Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:09 am

Debbie Cook interviewed for newsmedia (videos):
viewtopic.php?p=433576#p433576

Edit:
KABC 7 News report, added 15th Feb 2012: viewtopic.php?p=434353#p434353

Dorothy · **Posted:** Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:30 pm

As covered earlier in this thread, Marty set up legal fund for Debbie, people donated. They also helped her find a competent attorney. After Debbie's interim victory, she posted a thank you on Marty's blog. Now this:
http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/0 ... -update-2/

Quote:

Miscavige had his attorneys in on Saturday churning out juvenile threats in emailed letter form to Debbie and her counsel. One in particular is of interest to all who donated to the defense. George Spencer Esq of San Antonio Texas has warned that Debbie must preserve documentation of the amounts donated to her defense fund along with the names of all donors. (more in link)

The Cult is trying to intimidate those who donated and discourage further donations. Isn't this borderline Eastgate-style obstruction of Justice? It'll probably result in MORE donations lol.

Radio Paul · **Joined:** Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:57 am **Posts:** 341

This was in Marty's last post.

Miscavige, like his idol the Grand Ayatollah Sayyed Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini before him, apparently staunchly believes that his rule is Supreme to mere courts and distractions like the civil law and constitutional rights. Even when he is attempting to use those same courts to harass, intimidate and destroy those who have exposed his FELONIES to the light of day.

Should have read:

Miscavige, like his idol the Grand DickTrator L Ron Hubbard before him, apparently staunchly believes that his rule is Supreme to mere courts and distractions like the civil law and constitutional rights. Even when he is attempting to use those same courts to harass, intimidate and destroy those who have exposed his FELONIES to the light of day.

Sponge · **Posted:** Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:21 am

Two newsmedia features on Debbie Cook aired at the same time on Australian TV this evening.
See the OCMB Media Reports thread for all the links to watch those:
viewtopic.php?p=436778#p436778

Gumbythetruth · **Posted:** Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:20 pm

What I find odd here in that Debbie Cook is getting the full on cult legal hammer,yet Marty and Mike still have not had their day in court. Be it by the sci lawyers or the feds.Whats up with that?

Demented LRH · **Posted:** Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:57 pm

If Marty says too much in a court, he could implicate himself, so do not expect any revelations from him.

Dorothy · **Posted:** Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:42 pm

Gumbythetruth wrote:

What I find odd here in that Debbie Cook is getting the full on cult legal hammer,yet Marty and Mike still have not had their day in court. Be it by the sci lawyers or the feds.Whats up with that?

When you "route out" like Debbie did and sign a huge stack of docs including the NDA, the whole idea is that the cult will come after you if you speak. That's the whole point. Up until now it was strictly intimidation. But now, because of Debbie, the cult is forced to test these docs in the legal arena. They kind of had no choice. If they didn't, everyone and anyone who signed an NDA (over decades) with the cult would have learned that they could speak out without legal repercussion. The fact that Debbie and Wayne got paid for their silence probably helped make (certain foolish) lawyers think that they had a good case against Debbie.

M&M blew from the Sea Org- they escaped/walked out. So they signed no such stack of legal documents, or NDA, and received no hush money. That's the main difference between them. The cult has no legal case against M&M. That's why their only strategy is the "squirrel busters" lol. So your choices are- be fair gamed in the courts, or in your front yard.

The cult has a lot hinging on Debbie's case. If they don't win- there are lots of other important Ex-scientologists and various people who have been involved with the cult for decades who have key information, who have also signed NDR's. If the cult loses, all of these people have the potential of speaking out. I believe there is an army of whistle-blowers watching Debbie's saga, and waiting, and thinking. I dk if people realize how huge Debbie's case is and how important it is. People can criticize Debbie for still being a believer, but she holds within her own karma the ability strike the biggest blow ever and begin an avalanche that buries CoS. The beautiful irony in this is that her only true crime was communicating.

She must believe that this is the only way to "save scientology": to destroy it in its present form, and start over. [Edit: to help Dave Miscavage finish the job of destroying scientology in its present form]

Gumbythetruth · **Posted:** Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:19 pm

Dorothy wrote:

She must believe that this is the only way to "save scientology": to destroy it in its present form, and start over.

Profound in intent. Would be interesting if say some group of 9000+ gave say five bucks each to Deb,s defense fund. Thats $45,000 bucks. The sci lawyers would be hard pressed attempting to intimidate 9000+ people around the globe.

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