Will Miscavige appear at the Debbie Cook trial? Frankly, I do not have the answer to this question. Since he is being countersued by Debbie, her lawyers would love to see him on the witness stand. But he did not slap Debbie on the face, although he ordered his secretary to do so. That alone may not be enough to put him on the witness stand. However, it is quite possible that there is a proof that he broke the law in other way, we just do not know that yet.

The same goes for "squirrel". Anybody unfamiliar with the cult would never associate it with heretic.

Peter

DLRH, the reason David Miscavige would be called to be deposed or to testify is because Debbie Cook claims that the non-disclosure agreement is invalid because they were forced to sign under duress. The reason there was duress was because David Miscavige created a living situation where people were not free to come and go, and people were verbally, physically, and mentally abused. This was created DIRECTLY by David Miscavige. He called the shots. You can tell from the questions that Debbie Cook's lawyer asked that they are trying to establish that no one was above him that could have stopped him.

So, IF this case continues to trial it seems to me that DM would be called, and my humble opinion is that it's OBVIOUS that he is involved in the case and that his testimony would be relevant.

And, it's a win-win situation for us because if the trial continues, then DM will be called and have to answer some tough questions, and if it doesn't continue then the case is dropped and Debbie can say anything she wants.

I'm not a judge. I don't have a law degree. Nevertheless, I believe Miscavige ordering an act of battery that is then carried out by the one so ordered could be classified as "conspiracy to commit." In another criminal realm if someone arranges for another party to commit, say murder, for them then the person who did the arranging can be tried for murder as though they actually did it. Debbie may not be within the time frame of the statute of limitations for battery.

All of the above is speculation on my part. I'm sure Debbie's lawyer has a much better handle on things.

I wonder if Davie is taking tranquilizers. I have a feeling what is going on is contributing to raise his blood pressure.

As for getting Davie on the witness stand, if Debbie's lawyer wants to call him to take the stand and can substantially justify it with the judge then the judge will issue a summons. If that happens it will probably be served by a marshal, as a regular process server may not have the clout to get access to Davie to serve it. If Davie goes and hangs out on the Freewinds they will not be able to serve him. Funny to think that the proceedings could put Davie into exile.

Again that's all speculation.

The coverage on VV has given me huge confidence that Debbie's lawyer does indeed have a handle on this



From VV and from memory, in Texas it's enough that the summons is served to the legal representatives. MwahahahaahaaahaaaHaaHAAAAAHH!!

Ahemm.

I'm not a lawyer either, but I try to read all Tikk's comments / posts

Best Regards

Jens

Darn. I would have enjoyed Davie living in exile. His hiding out from the law the way Hubbard did would be some kind of karmic justice. Oh, well.

Dave McSavage will NEVER submit to a subpoena because he's 100% COWARD and cannot face anything. He can only play tough guy in an environment where everyone's self-determinism is either a) bought and paid for or, b) subjugated. Outside of those parameters he's nothing more than an evil, LYING, illiterate, tiny male with several physical and mental disabilities. If Spencer could meet Dave, he might be able to see this. But I'm sure there are many layers of protection, both physical and legal, surrounding Dave's bunker at Int, so that'll never happen.

In the event that a Judge is convinced that Dave must testify*, Dave's choices will be to drop the case, settle out of court, or go into hiding. If he really wants to do what's best for CoS, he'll go into hiding. That way the followers will think he had to do the same exact thing LRon did because the SPs wouldn't leave him alone. He'll try and maintain control from a remote location (same as LRon did) but will fail same as LRon did, as he experiences a similar fate as LRon, dying "alone, in the dark, and in pain", as another cult leader wannabe sees to his destruction.

*On the other hand, it might not be difficult to convince a Judge that Dave's testimony is not necessary.

Weiber and others,

This conspiracy notion is very telling on another level as well.

Debbie seeing David tell that girl (name ?) to slap her in the face shows David Miscavige in his most fundamental operating basis. His main modus operandi is conspiring with people to make others act like violent sociopaths.

I remember the first time I saw Miscavige was after I had been on staff for over a year. He came to CCI, and barged into my office and shouted "Who are you and what are you doing?"

This was my first encounter.

He left my office and proceeded to have a 'conference' which was basically him bitching about what he was seeing during his 'walk through.' (He basically conspired (threatened) the 'executives' to make them 'ferocious' product officers.

Then you should have seen they way everyone was jumping around like jack-rabbits trying to address all of his 'findings'

MAAs were running around with their batons.

Literally, people were kicked out there offices, walls were constructed, work teams were assembled. Snap and Pop.

But it was never really discussed that he acted like a complete asshole because there was 'policy' in place that justified (explained why) Miscavige almost had to be an asshole to be an 'effective leader.'

So, there was a massive shift in attitude in almost everyone (every dude who was thinking ambitiously of a future in La La Land) where suddenly the guys that I had known for the last year just switched into dickhead mode overnight, and this attitude shift coincided with the arrival of Miscavige's presence.

Miscavige has lasted for so long because of others, who would emulate Miscavige's dickishness. Dave Petite, for example, Petite was one of those guys in the executive office screaming at the top of his lungs at people, and these people being screamed at would in-turn focus on being dicks to others. (Pay it forward) Happy go lucky people, like me, who would refuse to go around being a dick to people, were treated mercilessly. They were screamed at and treated like dogs. People were made to clean dumpsters. People started leaving in droves. Many, who were not completely giving up, transferred to regions where Petite and Miscavige were not around to harass and intimidate them.

But that was the culture in the early 90's.

It wasn't just that Miscavige was violent. He also conspired with Petite and others like Rinder and Rathbun, who would then also conspire to make others violent or extremely 'unreasonable.'

Needless to say, the culture was completely toxic. You felt dirty. It was the complete opposite of anything good you could imagine. It was something right out of 1984. People were rude. People worked extremely long hours. People were fed crap. People were not getting time off. People kept replacing their uniform parts from the parts discarded from people who blew. Petite was at the muster 3-times a day, and he would berate and threaten people who showed up to muster, and he would talk shit about people who didn't show up.

So, I fucking quit.

They Sec Checked me about 3 or 4 times before I left.

They wanted to know if I masterbated.

They wanted me to sign papers saying I wouldn't go tell my stories to the media.

They basically wanted me to run around the cult center filling out a Leaving-Staff routing-form.

These were the people selling "The Bridge to Total Freedom."

Total control freaks who wanted to use and abuse me for as long as I would let them.

Also...

About 5 months before I left, I remember being mugged at gun point right off Hollywood Blvd. I completely freaked out. I was freaked out for days. 2 black guys jumped me. One had a gun with a silencer on it. He pointed it at my stomach. The other was frisking me. I literally only had about ¢.50 cents on me. (not surprising) I was trying tell someone about my mugging experience, and they said I was being 'misemotional' about what had happened.


The other thing that happened around this time was the Rodney King Riots. Someone threw a Molotov Cocktail onto the roof of the parking structure. I was outside in front and I could hear the glass break and the flames spread out. I could hear the car drive off.

Another thing that was happening were the earthquakes. A 7.0 (or whatever) earthquake happened while I was sleeping on a high floor in the Wilcox. It was so violent, I thought a nuclear war had started.

So, I had seen enough omens and seen enough personality transformations to have complete certainty things had to change since then.

And ever since, I've been watching closely what's been happening in Hollywood with all the people that I came into contact with.

I grow increasingly appalled that all these people, who neck-deep in the insanity, haven't done more to put an end to this disgusting gang.

I've been watching this for 20-years.

mr._bad, awesome story, thanks for telling it.

Most likely, I'mglib and Wieber are right about DM being forced to testify at the Cook trial.
However, the CoS lawyers will try to shield him from the court, so there is a chance that they will find a strategy that allows to do that.
Having said that, I admit that I have not figured out yet what that strategy might be. Hopefully, such strategy does not exist.

Tony's blog is just now putting up a 33-page file of CoS asking for summary judgment in the trial. The pleading was filed yesterday, it looks like Friday 3/2/12 at 3:11 p.m. from the court stamp.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninsca ... gy_fil.php

Debbie vs Davie is like Bin Laden vs Sadam.

Remember, sports fans; Debbie was in charge of the FSO when Lisa McPherson had her fatal moment. Debbie was directly involved in Lisa's death and its cover-up and Debbie has not yet come clean on this.

She does not make a big deal about Lisa dying while Debbie's underlings allowed Lisa to die of dehydration and insect infestations yet Debbie makes a big deal because she herself was slapped in the face?

We all want to see Miscavige go down but if Debbie brings him down . . . well to quote Peter Townsend, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Oh, and don't forget, Debbie had no problem abusing the others who were in the SP Room. It was only when she started being abused herself did she have a problem

The likelihood of them getting that is next to 0 and makes them look nuts. But what else is new. Even if somehow they got it in it would be overturned by a higher court. She has more than established that she can challenge the suit in court. It takes very little. Summery Judgments are more used by the defense than a plaintiff to show a frivolous suit. In this case the morons sued her but want to get a Summery Judgments for her counter suit? If so they are saying she has no counter case to the claim they are making. But by bringing a claim they are the ones saying their is a case to made. In other-words they are doing exactly what they did before (your honor just needs to find for us because we say so) They argued in the TRO that for the judge to even hear Debbie in court would be a violation of her agreement. They think they can tell a judge that they cant hear evidence for any reason, they just get to win because they have some video and a document.

I can see this going really bad for the cult. For one they could piss off a judge, they are also putting themselves back into a situation where Debbie and her lawyer are going to have the right to respond and due to the nature of Debbie's allegations the Judge will have to hear them, they can not ignore torture as a reason they were forced to sign the agreement. Clearly the judge will mandate the case move forward. But once again DM is giving her a platform to air the cults dirty laundry. I can see him going nuts after the ABC bit "You cocksuckers told me to back off on the TRO, it is all your fault that bitch is on TV! DESTROY HER" He is in fact going to do what everyone says he is, he is going to bring Scientology down.

Yes, common sense would tell me that a person in a position of authority who orders a subordinate to commit an illegal act is liable for something, if not criminal at least civil. That's just my layman opinion as I am no legal expert.

Debbie getting slapped out of her chair by DM's secretary who was ordered by him to do so is one thing. Debbie also says that she was forcibly taken and held against her will in a double-wide trailer (I believe she called it "the hole"). That's kidnapping. But the CO$ says that she went voluntarily and that she was not held against her will. That's like a rapist saying that his victim was willing. It's that bad IMO. Not even the authorities can hold you against your will unless they place you under arrest first. I'm more interested in the kidnapping allegation being investigated than the assault.