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 Post subject: Re: DIVIDED BY ZERO Banning people already.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:56 am 
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It also just struck me I have only had one post here moved, because it was in the wrong thread and I asked for it to be moved to the right one. I have never knocked heads with the admins here. I wonder why that is? It might because they are not control freaks. In fact I don't think one of them ever busted my balls. Little to no drama when Mods are not whipping it up.
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Thank you Smurf I knew I could count on you. Tell me, what do those nuts taste like? Just so when you kick them up in to my mouth I know what they will taste like. :)


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 Post subject: Re: DIVIDED BY ZERO Banning people already.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:12 am 
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Looks like Tangerine learned a trick from his mentor Sue

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He clearly wants to bash me in privet, where I cant see. Whaaaaaaaaaa! Kinda how they want people do things on the board. Not to worry, I got more IP's. Clearly the contempt they have for free speech is very real.


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 Post subject: Re: DIVIDED BY ZERO Banning people already.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:23 am 
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Radio Paul wrote:
It also just struck me I have only had one post here moved, because it was in the wrong thread and I asked for it to be moved to the right one. I have never knocked heads with the admins here. I wonder why that is? It might because they are not control freaks. In fact I don't think one of them ever busted my balls. Little to no drama when Mods are not whipping it up.

All mods are control freaks. There isn't any mechanism to hold them accountable, so they can do what they want. They can move your posts around, delete them, or ban you without you having any recourse. Your free speech ends when it runs up against their point of view.


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 Post subject: Re: DIVIDED BY ZERO Banning people already.
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It also just struck me I have only had one post here moved, because it was in the wrong thread and I asked for it to be moved to the right one. I have never knocked heads with the admins here. I wonder why that is? It might because they are not control freaks. In fact I don't think one of them ever busted my balls. Little to no drama when Mods are not whipping it up.

All mods are control freaks. There isn't any mechanism to hold them accountable, so they can do what they want. They can move your posts around or ban you without you having any recourse. Your free speech ends when it runs up against their point of view.

It clearly is the case but that does not mean I have to take it. I wont be quite when Scientology steps of free speech and I wont be quite on this. Who says they don't hand out SP Declares at DBZ


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 Post subject: Re: DIVIDED BY ZERO Banning people already.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:31 am 
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DM beats people, just the way it is, no point in saying anything.


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 Post subject: Re: DIVIDED BY ZERO Banning people already.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:38 am 
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I'm with you Radio P. You have to stand up for free speech on the message boards.


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 Post subject: Re: DIVIDED BY ZERO Banning people already.
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So I have a rotating IP addy set up. I never have to use the same one twice. I guess my last post got on his nerves as he deleted it. THEY DONT DO THAT lol. Still locked down registration, I guess they will have to do that for ever as IP blocks wont work in keeping me out.


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The down side is it kills my log in on every other board and I got to sign back in. Well you cant have it all.


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Thank you Smurf I knew I could count on you. Tell me, what do those nuts taste like? Just so when you kick them up in to my mouth I know what they will taste like. :)
Tangerine. 8)


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Thread should now be called Melodrama.
RP, if the posts that were moved were damning dox everyone should see, I'd be with you. I even support your right to challenge the reasoning of why your posts were moved, but seeing your 'grievance' up against your reaction and method of petition, just makes you look like a pedantic f_ _ _.
We're fighting the cult, not saving mankind. Your insistence on principle absolutes just sounds naive.

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I don't need you with me. As far as you needing to buy in to them I don't care, one person poison is another person wine. It is hard to make an argument when your post are F'd with and deleted and yes some of them are gone. There would be nothing to get excited about at all if the post were left alone, they weren't harming anything. I pointed out on OCMB that I have never had one posted moved or deleted except one post I put in the wrong thread and I asked that it be moved to the correct one. It is also unfair to put questions to me here as the Admins are attempting to IP block me and it looks like there are some other tricks too that I have figured out. They just can't let another person have a say without messing with them. "pedantic f_ _ _. " not nice and I did not say I was saving mankind that is Scientology's stick, I am talking about free speech one of the things Scientology can't stand and neither can some others. Even if I were wrong (not) it is clear that would not be allowed. I did not know there was a standard of rational that I had to adhere to that you personally get to choose. The fact is I caught Admins lying and F'ing with post that there is no call for. They could have let me have my say but would not, proving exactly what I was accusing them of. In the face of that hypocrisy I wont be silent. It has nothing to do with saving the world but integrity. I am re posting this at OCMB because I am not afraid to have a discussion in public on this. If you want to not be a (pedantic f_ _ _.) Was that supposed to be pathetic? feel free to respond in a forum that does not censor or try to block me from seeing what is being posted (being control freaks) again proving my point. DM has not handled Anonymous but Anons are sure as hell doing a good job of handling themselves.

(Mod: edited out homophobic slur by mod (!) on DBZ.)


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 Post subject: Re: DIVIDED BY ZERO Banning people already.
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I support freedom of speech as a concept that should apply to a country as a whole, which is the basis of a democratic society -- people should be able to express their opinions openly even if they deny that Holocost happened or if they are KKK members. But you cannot seriously expect the members of an African American forum to allow KKK members to post material at their website.

The mods have the right to determine whom they accept at their website.

As for this new group, I am not planning to join them at this moment because I already participate in 3 anti-Scientology forums -- OCMB, WWP and ESMB. If they go beyond Scientology and start attacking other cults, I will join them.

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 Post subject: Re: DIVIDED BY ZERO Banning people already.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:16 pm 
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I support freedom of speech as a concept that should apply to a country as a whole, which is the basis of a democratic society -- people should be able to express their opinions openly even if they deny that Holocost happened or if they are KKK members. But you cannot seriously expect the members of an African American forum to allow KKK members to post material at their website.

The mods have the right to determine whom they accept at their website.

As for this new group, I am not planning to join them at this moment because I already participate in 3 anti-Scientology forums -- OCMB, WWP and ESMB. If they go beyond Scientology and start attacking other cults, I will join them.


But you can expect others to take it lying down? You see you and I totally disagree on this, you are repeating what others have said. I would not accuse you (except in jest) of spamming or derailing. And I would never ban you for responding back to every post I make. I am not saying nor would I ever say people should not join them. I just want people to know what is going on and if they feel the same way to have the right to say something about it without having a post removed or have the Admins F with them.


Thank goodness for OCMB :)

I just we had a good way to embed videos here :(

Yeah it is their board but it is my voice. I would love to see them free of the WWP shit but that is their choice. I guess I care about the topic to much to let it go. What they don't get is that the boards wont amount to shit with hidden chat rooms, pics of kittens (no I don't hate kittens) and calling people names. I board that has divers and or controversial issues is looked at the most. Just look at their drama thread. It is a reflection of what I am talking about. They move relevant shit there all the time and people have to go there to see it. All they are doing is insulting people by moving it there in the first place.


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 Post subject: Re: DIVIDED BY ZERO Banning people already.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:19 pm 
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In either case I am back on there and they are leaving it alone, so am I, as long as they don't proxy ban again I will just post useless safe shit that is incapable of educating people about Scientology. Maybe I can post some kitten photos.

I am leaving my post here to keep the topic open for further consideration.


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 Post subject: Re: DIVIDED BY ZERO Banning people already.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:55 pm 
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Radio Paul wrote:
Demented LRH wrote:
I support freedom of speech as a concept that should apply to a country as a whole, which is the basis of a democratic society -- people should be able to express their opinions openly even if they deny that Holocost happened or if they are KKK members. But you cannot seriously expect the members of an African American forum to allow KKK members to post material at their website.

The mods have the right to determine whom they accept at their website.

As for this new group, I am not planning to join them at this moment because I already participate in 3 anti-Scientology forums -- OCMB, WWP and ESMB. If they go beyond Scientology and start attacking other cults, I will join them.


But you can expect others to take it lying down? You see you and I totally disagree on this, you are repeating what others have said. I would not accuse you (except in jest) of spamming or derailing. And I would never ban you for responding back to every post I make. I am not saying nor would I ever say people should not join them. I just want people to know what is going on and if they feel the same way to have the right to say something about it without having a post removed or have the Admins F with them.


Thank goodness for OCMB :)

I just we had a good way to embed videos here :(

Yeah it is their board but it is my voice. I would love to see them free of the WWP shit but that is their choice. I guess I care about the topic to much to let it go. What they don't get is that the boards wont amount to shit with hidden chat rooms, pics of kittens (no I don't hate kittens) and calling people names. I board that has divers and or controversial issues is looked at the most. Just look at their drama thread. It is a reflection of what I am talking about. They move relevant shit there all the time and people have to go there to see it. All they are doing is insulting people by moving it there in the first place.

I cannot comment on your posts at Divide By Zero because I have not visited that website and I have absolutely no idea of what is going on there. I was making general comments that are more in line with what Don Carlo said at this thread.

There are certain polices that the members of a group might disagree with. I, certainly, disagree with the WWP doxing rules. But I also lke their policy of allowing Scientology trolls to post at WWP because it demonstrates their commitment to free speech.

I know that some people were banned from WWP for variety of reaons. But most of these bans had taken place before I joined the group, so I do not know what triggered them.

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