I don't want to get Cliff negative attention with the chamber of commerce. I don't want his business hurt, or have him bothered at his home or on Facebook.
I wasn't harmed by the spying. I don't want revenge.
It's just, well, strange for a church, as Dorothy said.
I agree with Wieber that Cliff should check out the books that Wieber suggests. I am sure Cliff didn't get into the church, and get to the level on the bridge (I think OT5) where he is to end up sitting in front of peoples' houses for hours. I think it would be great if Cliff could see that this behavior is not what he signed up for, and could ask himself how he got to that point?
He probably thinks he's helping the cause by spying on a suppressive person, but I already gave my reasons for being a critic. I want to see the Sea Org be able to go home once and week, and have free access to their families.
I think that's pretty simple and clear...and believable.
Now, on the other hand, what are his reasons? What's wrong with my goal? Why does it need to be stopped? How is spying going to help? Did he ask anyone what the deal was? Why not? Scientology is about studying the truth. It says so in the big new ads they are running. How can he find out the truth if he doesn't ask people, and listen to their answers, and investigate all the sources? Like actually ask me.
I don't get why people just do these things like sheep, when they are supposed to be experts on knowledge and the truth.
Even LRH said somewhere (can't find the quote now) but it's something like, If there are two sides to a story, you should listen and investigate and find out.
For example, if a person says they got ripped off by a business, in order to find out the truth you would have to talk to the business owner AND the person claiming to be ripped off. Scientologists think it's ok somehow to just talk to one side. That is not how knowledge or the truth works. They should know that.
For instance, I asked a handler at the last protest if he read Debbie Cook's letter, and he said he didn't read that crap. But how could he know which side is telling the truth? What if Miscavige is lying? I told him that OT8 Geir Isene decided to find out for himself about the stories of abuse and he spent 1,000 hours talking to various people and reading both sides. We know the conclusion he came up with.
With all love my dear, you should have known better. Did you think by posting that Cliff was going to come here and read it? When you post something like that expect Anon's to take all action they can within the law. You might not have wanted it but you stuck Cliff's penis in a hornets nest. Well he is the one that stuck it in, you just showed us where to sting.